DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I think Greg Williams was fired here to quiet the media. How can they employ Adam Gase and fire Greg Williams? I understand that the call yesterday was a fireable offense, but overall he has done better than Gase. Does not matter that much in hindsight but still definitely weird. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, DepressedJetsFan23 said: I think Greg Williams was fired here to quiet the media. How can they employ Adam Gase and fire Greg Williams? I understand that the call yesterday was a fireable offense, but overall he has done better than Gase. Does not matter that much in hindsight but still definitely weird. I agree, i honestly think that Gase is making all the calls for this team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Gase and Douglass in harmony. Can't wait to see Gase and Lawrence together 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, shawn306 said: Gase and Douglass in harmony. Can't wait to see Gase and Lawrence together Do not put that into my mind that is a horrifying image 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, DepressedJetsFan23 said: Do not put that into my mind that is a horrifying image Well unless Woody steps in this might be how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, shawn306 said: Well unless Woody steps in this might be how it goes. Lol, based on what? Some of you guys are way too paranoid. There is literally no reason to fire Gase mid season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, DepressedJetsFan23 said: Do not put that into my mind that is a horrifying image "OK Trevor, lets practice that hand off to Frank again a few more times, you've nearly got it nailed". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The Jets defensive ranks were bad. 29th in Y/G allowed. 30th in Pts/G allowed. So we fired Gregg Williams. And here are our offensive ranks: 32nd in Y/G. 32nd in Pts/G scored. We averaged 15 P/G. the next worst team averaged 18.8 and they played one game without a QB. So of course we fire the DC and keep the HC/OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Gase cementing his legacy as The Boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Trimming the herd so they won't have to pay unemployment to all the coaches at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Gase has power to fire assistants. Douglas doesn't have power to fire Gase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, LockeJET said: Gase has power to fire assistants. Douglas doesn't have power to fire Gase. That is something that needs to be fixed as well. I do not know about you but I prefer if the coach has to report to GM. This both reporting to owner thing is not working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, nycdan said: The Jets defensive ranks were bad. 29th in Y/G allowed. 30th in Pts/G allowed. So we fired Gregg Williams. And here are our offensive ranks: 32nd in Y/G. 32nd in Pts/G scored. We averaged 15 P/G. the next worst team averaged 18.8 and they played one game without a QB. So of course we fire the DC and keep the HC/OC. The defense was definitely terrible, but overall watching the games the defense looked much more competitive than the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, nycdan said: The Jets defensive ranks were bad. 29th in Y/G allowed. 30th in Pts/G allowed. So we fired Gregg Williams. And here are our offensive ranks: 32nd in Y/G. 32nd in Pts/G scored. We averaged 15 P/G. the next worst team averaged 18.8 and they played one game without a QB. So of course we fire the DC and keep the HC/OC. Lol, you guys don't get it. They are both getting fired after the season. Who cares if williams was fired 4 weeks before gase??? Williams just got the boot early because he had a mutiny on his hands with the defense.. Just relax and it will all be over January 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Lol, you guys don't get it. They are both getting fired after the season. Who cares if williams was fired 4 weeks before gase??? Williams just got the boot early because he had a mutiny on his hands with the defense.. Just relax and it will all be over January 4th. We can say that it will be over on Jan 4th all we want, but that is just the coaches. The real problem here is the Johnson brothers who will sadly not be gone on Jan 4th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 They fired him because he made a bad call that cost them the game. Yet, Gase remains. How does that make any sense? Either fire both now or at the end. But this was bush league (as always) from the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, DepressedJetsFan23 said: We can say that it will be over on Jan 4th all we want, but that is just the coaches. The real problem here is the Johnson brothers who will sadly not be gone on Jan 4th. The hope is that Douglas, Lawrence and the HC Douglas hires makes the Johnson's problem moot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Ridiculous. I mean I knew Williams was going most likely but he had been much better in his tenure than the “offensive genius” who has even admitted he screwed up Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, LockeJET said: Gase has power to fire assistants. Douglas doesn't have power to fire Gase. Because of this we will always be a crap organization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: They fired him because he made a bad call that cost them the game. Yet, Gase remains. How does that make any sense? Either fire both now or at the end. But this was bush league (as always) from the team. Out of curiosity if they were both fired, what would happen? Like who would be calling the plays on defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jets723 said: Ridiculous. I mean I knew Williams was going most likely but he had been much better in his tenure than the “offensive genius” who has even admitted he screwed up Sam Agreed that is what I do not understand. The logic behind this Fire is what has plagued the jets for years OWNERSHIP!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Gase.jfif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Lol, based on what? Some of you guys are way too paranoid. There is literally no reason to fire Gase mid season. If that's the case, what is the reason to fire Williams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, FidelioJet said: If that's the case, what is the reason to fire Williams? I personally believe the only reason they fired Williams was to hush the media a little. Make it seem like the org actually cares about winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, DepressedJetsFan23 said: Out of curiosity if they were both fired, what would happen? Like who would be calling the plays on defense? Same person who is now. Frank Bush. My point is, Gase has had the league’s offense for 2 straight season, and almost bottom of the league his entire head coaching career. If you’re firing Gregg Williams earlier than you planned because of that call yesterday...what’s your excuse for keeping Gase? His offense has lost us far more games than Gregg Williams’ D has in 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Adoni Beast said: Same person who is now. Frank Bush. My point is, Gase has had the league’s offense for 2 straight season, and almost bottom of the league his entire head coaching career. If you’re firing Gregg Williams earlier than you planned because of that call yesterday...what’s your excuse for keeping Gase? His offense has lost us far more games than Gregg Williams’ D has in 2 years. Agreed really hard to justify keeping Adam Gase. Only reason I see is to avoid team catching late life and winning a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Lol, you guys don't get it. They are both getting fired after the season. Who cares if williams was fired 4 weeks before gase??? Williams just got the boot early because he had a mutiny on his hands with the defense.. Just relax and it will all be over January 4th. Why not clean house now then? This worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, LockeJET said: Gase has power to fire assistants. Douglas doesn't have power to fire Gase. I'm not sure that's the case. GW was forced on Gase when he was hired. I do not believe Gase had the power to fire Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, BleedinGreenNC said: Why not clean house now then? This worries me. Because you can't hire his replacement now. So what's the rush? So we can see dowell logains be our head coach for 4 weeks? That helps this franchise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: Because you can't hire his replacement now. So what's the rush? So we can see dowell logains be our head coach for 4 weeks? That helps this franchise? So why have the other teams fired their coaches with better records? We have to be the trend setters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Bottom line: Williams was fired not for his overall bad job as DC and not because of his terrible Cove 0 Blitz call. He was fired because of the locker rooms reaction to his terrible call. This is a "keep the peace" firing to placate a locker room that has remained amazingly together through this horrible season. This is the ONLY answer because Gase survived despite 1) the O being is as bad as the D and; 2) Gase either approving of or not knowing about the Cover 0 Blitz call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Because you can't hire his replacement now. So what's the rush? So we can see dowell logains be our head coach for 4 weeks? That helps this franchise? In that case what is the reason for firing greg Williams? I do not disagree with you but the logic of it is just super questionable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: If that's the case, what is the reason to fire Williams? Did you watch the last play of the game? Did you hear Marcus Maye? There is a difference between being a bad coach, like Gase, and there is negligent coaching behavior like williams yesterday. They both deserve to be fired. No question. But only one did something so foolish that his firing needed to happen today. PS- I would have been fine not firing williams and I would obviously be fine firing Gase. I just don't care the order or the timing. They were both dead men walking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepressedJetsFan23 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Sonny Werblin said: Bottom line: Williams was fired not for his overall bad job as DC and not because of his terrible Cove 0 Blitz call. He was fired because of the locker rooms reaction to his terrible call. This is a "keep the peace" firing to placate a locker room that has remained amazingly together through this horrible season. This is the ONLY answer because Gase survived despite 1) the O being is as bad as the D and; 2) Gase either approving of or not knowing about the Cover 0 Blitz call. Do you think this has any adverse impact on locker room? I feel like players may be lost without greg williams. Obviously I have never been in the locker room but listening to him talk, He seems like he commands the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, DepressedJetsFan23 said: In that case what is the reason for firing greg Williams? I do not disagree with you but the logic of it is just super questionable. Very questionable! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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