HawkeyeJet Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Samtorobby47 said: Andy Dalton vs McNabb though.. . And 2 of those 7 games were backup QBs due to injuries. MVP caliber Carson Palmer blew out his knee in one of those and Kitna came in and was awful. AJ McCarron was the other. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, Philc1 said: He won a super bowl coaching the best defense ever And Rex was on his staff.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 This is Trevor Lawrence we’re talking about. Let’s go big... Cowher (HC)/ Pederson (OC) or Harbaugh (HC)/ Lewis (DC) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Andy Dalton vs McNabb though.. . Even Rex Ryan won 4 playoff games with Mark f*cking Sanchez. Unless you want to argue that Marvin Lewis's failure to win a single playoff game lays more at the feet of the GM who built teams good enough to go 11-5, 10-6, 9-7, 10-6, 11-5, 10-5-1, and 12-4 those years, but not good enough to win one playoff game. I'll relent, though, that those records may be slightly misleading, since being in a division with the Browns automatically should've gifted them two wins each season. I get your argument about the talent Marvin may have had (and I'm not familiar with the roster that he had during his tenure) but 7 playoff appearances without a single win is a worrisome trend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: FYI - the Jets are currently 0-12 and haven't made the playoffs in a decade. Mediocrity is a decided step UP. Fair enough, but mediocre 6-9 win seasons are a road to nowhere. I'd rather be embarrassingly bad like this year with a chance to land blue chip prospects 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Anybody is an upgrade over Gase. Lewis isn't an exiting or fresh option, but he's a solid choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I would prefer a severe case of herpes. Can I serve you up an empty backfield set on 3rd and short to go with those mouth sores? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Unless you want to argue that Marvin Lewis's failure to win a single playoff game lays more at the feet of the GM who built teams good enough to go 11-5, 10-6, 9-7, 10-6, 11-5, 10-5-1, and 12-4 those years, but not good enough to win one playoff game. I'll relent, though, that those records may be slightly misleading, since being in a division with the Browns automatically should've gifted them two wins each season. I get your argument about the talent Marvin may have had (and I'm not familiar with the roster that he had during his tenure) but 7 playoff appearances without a single win is a worrisome trend. Bengals are cheap. They don't have a GM(Mike Brown is listed as GM but Marvin ran the show there). To me, the only bad loss they had was the 2015 loss vs Pitt when they were 12-4 and Burfict mentally imploded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Icer said: Fair enough, but mediocre 6-9 win seasons are a road to nowhere. I'd rather be embarrassingly bad like this year with a chance to land blue chip prospects Not in the NFC East LOL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 To be honest I wouldn't hate this. He isn't the sexy hire, but he's a solid coach. Overall he did well in a place where nobody does well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I like lewis. To me his main weakness is his belief that he can rehabilitate even the lowest of low lifes. He does have an eye for “talent” but it takes more than talent to succeed in the NFL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, peebag said: Can I serve you up an empty backfield set on 3rd and short to go with those mouth sores? Only if the routes are all hitches inside the line to gain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, ToonforPrez said: Cowher is too old and hasn't been in football for a long time hey Marvin Lewis now that's a man i get behind to be the next jet coach lol That hasnt impacted Gruden and his coaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 He's a good coach, with a winning organization he might be great. On the Jets does he move the needle enough from zero wins to Super Bowl? Parcells moved it from one win to AFC championship game. You need the horses to get anywhere or you are spinning your wheels. So much of this is about Joe Douglas and the football players themselves. Winning comes with clarity of vision, ability to foster a winning culture, obsession with detail and leadership...getting everyone to follow. Is he all that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: This is Trevor Lawrence we’re talking about. Let’s go big... Cowher (HC)/ Pederson (OC) or Harbaugh (HC)/ Lewis (DC) Would agree. Things to consider if the Jets get #1: Does Lawrence sign with CAA/Sexton? Do they take input from Lawrence on the next HC? Does Lawrence have enough leverage to dictate that? Does he care? Do the Johnsons see Lawrence as a new lease on life and change up the organizational structure to focus more on football? Do they pursue a high end, expensive coach for once? many many questions. The franchise is at a inflection point in many ways. Never have they been this bad with this caliber of player on the horizon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 If you want instant respectability, but don't quite want to get to the next level, Marvin Lewis is your guy. Your team will do well in the regular season every year, and you might even win division titles. Just don't buy second round playoff tickets. He is a poor man's Marty Schottenheimer. The elder Schottenheimer at least won some playoff games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Bengals are cheap. They don't have a GM(Mike Brown is listed as GM but Marvin ran the show there). Yeah, that doesn't make ol' Marvin look any better, lol. That "he would've won more if he just had a better QB" argument goes out the window if he was the one actually shopping for the groceries there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, sourceworx said: To be honest I wouldn't hate this. He isn't the sexy hire, but he's a solid coach. Overall he did well in a place where nobody does well. Yea hiring him would be like kissing your sister. Did he ever ever ever win a playoff game? Maybe in Madden, but I mean in the NFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Not in the NFC East LOL After the Jets going 0-16 and landing the #1 pick and Manish Mehta being finally outed as an unparalleled douche, the absolute sh*t-show of the NFC East is my 3rd favorite story-line of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Honestly I think the NY Jets need some new blood as HC No more re-treads or other teams garbage. Do you follow the Jets, lol Every coach post Parcells was new blood as a HC. Before Parcells, Carrol, Coslete, Walton, Micahels & Winner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: Yea hiring him would be like kissing your sister. Did he ever ever ever win a playoff game? Maybe in Madden, but I mean in the NFL? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Do you follow the Jets, lol Every coach post Parcells was new blood as a HC. Before Parcells, Carrol, Coslete, Walton, Micahels & Winner? Do you? How has that all worked out for us? LOL Todd Bowles came from how many previous teams. Adam Gase came from how many previous teams. 51 years and counting.............. New blood as in not connected to any former NFL HC not a former assistant,DC or OC,equipment manager, jock washer. Hire someone from the college ranks thats never been in the NFL as a coach in any capacity. No skeletons in the closet. Hungry to win and make a name for themself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonforPrez Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: That hasnt impacted Gruden and his coaching I agree I'm just making a point some posters feel that Cowher is too old (I DONT) But are completely ok with Marvin Lewis who hasn'tt won a damn thing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I'd be disappointed if we get Marvin Lewis. He's not terrible, but not a guy I see leading us to the promised land, either. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Please don’t let this happen! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Do you? How has that all worked out for us? LOL Todd Bowles came from how many previous teams. Adam Gase came from how many previous teams. 51 years and counting.............. New blood as in not connected to any former NFL HC not a former assistant,DC or OC,equipment manager, jock washer. Hire someone from the college ranks thats never been in the NFL as a coach in any capacity. No skeletons in the closet. Hungry to win and make a name for themself. Well Joe, its hard to follow you here, which is it? New blood or not. You said you wanted new blood, no rehashes and now? If you want to add college coaches I left Holtz off because I assumed that would make him a rehashed HC. We lose with a rehash, we want new blood. We lost with coordinators as HC and we want rehashed coaches. Hiring a college HC who never has been in the NFL as a coach in any capacity? Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Why not Freddie Kitches? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Do you? How has that all worked out for us? LOL Todd Bowles came from how many previous teams. Adam Gase came from how many previous teams. 51 years and counting.............. New blood as in not connected to any former NFL HC not a former assistant,DC or OC,equipment manager, jock washer. Hire someone from the college ranks thats never been in the NFL as a coach in any capacity. No skeletons in the closet. Hungry to win and make a name for themself. Matt Campbell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Well Joe, its hard to follow you here, which is it? New blood or not. You said you wanted new blood, no rehashes and now? If you want to add college coaches I left Holtz off because I assumed that would make him a rehashed HC. We lose with a rehash, we want new blood. We lost with coordinators as HC and we want rehashed coaches. New blood as in NFL new never has been part of any NFL coaching staff in any capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Damn, things have really gotten so bad that Marvin Lewis is sounding OK now? All new lows around here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Wonderboy said: Matt Campbell Lincoln Riley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Honestly I think the NY Jets need some new blood as HC No more re-treads or other teams garbage. Except for Adam Gase I’m pretty sure our last HC to be a retread was Parcells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: New blood as in NFL new never has been part of any NFL coaching staff in any capacity. Pretty much on the bottom of my list. Hey, lets try something that is a crap shoot just because others didnt work out for us. Coaching success would be a better alternative to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Anthony Jet said: Except for Adam Gase I’m pretty sure our last HC to be a retread was Parcells Todd Bowles had previous NFL jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Jet Nut said: Pretty much on the bottom of my list. Hey, lets try something that is a crap shoot just because others didnt work out for us. Coaching success would be a better alternative to me So Bowles and Gase worked out well here you are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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