Gastineau Lives Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 Also: Losing teams should be only given a small budget to hire head coaches and cannot hire anyone that has a career winning record General Managers need to stay with losing teams until they achieve a winning season and if they don't do it in their lifetime, the job gets passed onto their eldest offspring, whether they want to be in football or not. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Also: Losing teams should be only given a small budget to hire head coaches and cannot hire anyone that has a career winning record General Managers need to stay with losing teams until they achieve a winning season and if they don't do it in their lifetime, the job gets passed onto their eldest offspring, whether they want to be in football or not. No the way it should work is if you are a team playing within a 50 mi radius of Boston with douchey fans you should get the first pick of the draft regardless of record 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I have no idea what he is talking about. The draft has been setup like this for decades and players and owners are rewarded for winning. And what sport moves an entire te into a lower division if they lose. You mean an owner should spend hundreds of millions of dollars on an NFL team and if they lose they get booted to the CFL? Is this guy on drugs? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 The last time I checked ever since dating back to 1936 (84 years ago) the NFL team who finished with the worst overall record; has then had an opportunity to draft #1 overall. Just the fact that N.E fans just lost out on their beloved Tom Brady and are now absolutely disgusted over just the thought of our New York Jets drafting and landing Trevor Lawrence with the #1 overall pick; makes me want to draft this kid that much more. @PatsFanTx... Where you at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: He's on ESPN and his father is a broadcasting legend. I doubt this thread is putting him over the top. At the risk of giving you attention and making you popular, I decided to respond to your horrible take, but hey that's just my "innate need" taking over. We know you can't stop. Self discipline is a rare trait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Losing teams should be only given a small budget to hire head coaches and cannot hire anyone that has a career winning record Doesn't sound too different than how the Jets normally operate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: We know you can't stop. Self discipline is a rare trait. If everyone operated with that kind of self discipline, Phil wouldn't have a ******* site 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 YOU WILL SIT AT THIS TABLE UNTIL YOU AREN'T A LOSER ANYMORE. UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO START WINNING, YOU GET NOTHING, YOU GOT IT, LOSER? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: This stupid piece of sh*t Pats fan wants to change the structure of professional sports in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted December 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: YOU WILL SIT AT THIS TABLE UNTIL YOU AREN'T A LOSER ANYMORE. UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO START WINNING, YOU GET NOTHING, YOU GOT IT, LOSER? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby2 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Sports media really turning to hell 15 or so years ago was the warning sign that the entire media well would eventually be poisoned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Never heard of this person. Nor his supposedly famous dad (?). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 One argument against a lottery is the fan interest among the bottom teams. We are hanging on every game, every week because there is no lottery. I am sure that Jax fans are doing the same. As are other fans of bad teams hoping to lock in the 3rd, 4th or 5th pick. If there was a lottery, we probably would have all lost interest in October. Keeping the draft "as is" keeps fans of bad teams interested all year. Maybe for the wrong reasons, rooting for losses, but interested nonetheless. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: Never heard of this person. Nor his supposedly famous dad (?). Neither have I, but I'm, like, totes outraged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: Never heard of this person. Nor his supposedly famous dad (?). Dick Schaap is one of the most important television sports journalists in history. He won five Emmy awards. The Sports Emmy division of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences renamed their writing category "The Dick Schaap Outstanding Writing Award." On June 8, 2015, Schaap was inducted posthumously in the National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association's Hall of Fame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JiF said: Legit sounds like a Pats fan who realized they will never be relevant again and all sour grapes the Jets are getting Lawrence. Pats Purgatory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JiF said: Legit sounds like a Pats fan who realized they will never be relevant again and all sour grapes the Jets are getting Lawrence. This is exactly it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 Yes, yes, I think it's a wonderful idea for the top teams in the league to keep replenishing their roster with cheap talent. The Chiefs DESERVE to draft Penei Sewell or Ja'Marr Chase. Holy sh*t. Apathy among losing fanbases is always positive. That sense of helplessness (yes, I know, Jets, but hear me out), the negation of enthusiasm for the draft all of it. We need to do perpetuate that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby2 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Lith said: One argument against a lottery is the fan interest among the bottom teams. We are hanging on every game, every week because there is no lottery. I am sure that Hax fans are doing the same. As are other fnas of bad teams hoping to lock in the 3rd, 4th or 5th pick. If there was a lottery, we probably would have all lost interest in October. Keeping the draft "as is" keeps fans of bad teams interested all year. Maybe for the wrong reasons, rooting for losses, but interested nonetheless. I agree, lottery's are bogus and ripe for interference and corruption. Let the dumbass nba have their stupid lottery sponsored by travis scott and sprite. Leave the real sports alone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lith said: One argument against a lottery is the fan interest among the bottom teams. We are hanging on every game, every week because there is no lottery. I am sure that Hax fans are doing the same. As are other fnas of bad teams hoping to lock in the 3rd, 4th or 5th pick. If there was a lottery, we probably would have all lost interest in October. Keeping the draft "as is" keeps fans of bad teams interested all year. Maybe for the wrong reasons, rooting for losses, but interested nonetheless. I don;t know for me if wouldn't be that much different other than not having to put up with actively cheering against ones own team and keeping a travesty of a coach. There would still be interest but this pro tank bit I find distasteful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GREENBEAN Posted December 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Jetster said: Unbelievable. How long has Jeremy Schapp been following & writing about the NFL? Jets on the verge of the 1st pick overall so NOW he thinks things should be changed on how the draft works. Not a peep out of him for his entire career though regarding the 1st pick in the draft. Again, The Jets fans are a source of clicks for these guys. Want to really quick get a big story? Write something that will piss off or get Jets fans excited. It's sports writer/announcer 101. And here we go. Twitter is all aflutter with Schapp right now. This piece is his retirement fund. Oh... he can go F*ck himself by the way. lol 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: I don;t know for me if wouldn't be that much different other than not having to put up with actively cheering against ones own team and keeping a travesty of a coach. There would still be interest but this pro tank bit I find distasteful. I'm pro loss, not pro-tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby2 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, GREENBEAN said: Again, The Jets fans are a source of clicks for these guys. Want to really quick get a big story? Write something that will piss off or get Jets fans excited. It's sports writer/announcer 101. And here we go. Twitter is all aflutter with Schapp right now. This piece is his retirement fund. Oh... he can go F*ck himself by the way. lol Reason 8 thousand why it's so damn hard to field a winner in NYC. Everyone is against you, even when you suck and dont't warrant any coverage at all, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 This does start to get me worried about BB giving us week 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I don;t know for me if wouldn't be that much different other than not having to put up with actively cheering against ones own team and keeping a travesty of a coach. There would still be interest but this pro tank bit I find distasteful. As a fan of a hockey team that was a lottery team most years until recently (Islanders), I lost interest in the season once it became apparent they were missing out on the playoffs. But in the NHL, that is often after several months of play. Last two seasons, Jets were out of contention by October 1. I think there would have been a lot more apathy during the season if there was a lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Gastineau Lives said: If everyone operated with that kind of self discipline, Phil wouldn't have a ******* site What a wonderful world that would be.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Beerfish said: What is this guy even talking about? euro soccer has relegation no NA sport has and all NA sports have a draft that favours the worst teams. Now if he wanted to bleat that there should be a draft lottery he would have a legit point in my mind. Although it would hurt the jets this year I am in favor of draft lotteries in one shape or form or another. The NBA Draft Lottery increases tanking. It is an absolutely terrible system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: The NBA Draft Lottery increases tanking. It is an absolutely terrible system. Exactly. You have like 5-10 teams tanking instead of 2 or 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I actually agree with the loterry system......just not this year lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: This stupid piece of sh*t Pats fan wants to change the structure of professional sports in America. What did Detroit do to deserve Matthew Stafford?? What did the Colts do to deserve Peyton Manning? What did the Cowboys do to deserve Troy Aikman? What did the Colts do (again) to deserve Andrew Luck? Gee this is fun, and EVERYONE can play!! Jeremy Schaap is a pencil necked dweeb, and apparently thinks it would be a good idea to turn the NFL into a 10 team league. Moron. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Maybe there are more equitable ways to dole out the talent but the nfl has so many different positions to fill that even a top five pick is no guarantee to improve a team. Plus players are typically clustered so there may be 5 or 6 players at any one position worthy of a high choice. The talent difference just isn’t always there. QBs are a little different because there’s only one of them on a team and their play can easy make or break a team. And then there is the whole about doing what’s right for the shield. If a dynastic team gets rewarded then just how do the doormat teams ever move up? Overall league viewership would probably suffer and revenues would go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I actually agree with the loterry system......just not this year lol You agree with a lottery? You must not be a Knicks fan... Because as an NYK fan I dread the lottery. We always finish as one of the worst teams but never end up with a top two pick. 2018-2019 we finished with the worst record in the league and ended up with the 3rd pick instead #1 overall and Zion. I hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: This stupid piece of sh*t Pats fan wants to change the structure of professional sports in America. Let’s hope come week 17 Belichick doesn’t agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Yeah and the Colts deserved Peyton, and Luck. ******* liberal media needs to be defunded. No politics man just pisses people off hearing other people say stupid shiitt from both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, kevinc855 said: I actually agree with the loterry system......just not this year lol Why? Lottery systems are dumb in my opinion especially in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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