Mogglez Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 hours ago, More Cowbell said: I guess you didn't see his last game where he had 2 TD passes and ran for one. We know you don't like him but get your facts straight. He negated all of that by turning the ball over three times. The Raiders scored points off of all 3 turnovers. Adam Gase is a bad head coach. Sam Darnold doesn’t need Adam Gase to tell him “don’t throw across your body, into triple coverage, while on the move, when we’re in scoring territory.” Enough with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Defense Wins Championships said: I really can't stand how Sam Darnold apologists point to Tannehill under Gase as some type of excuse for Sam Darnold under Gase. Sam just stinks. Tannehill under Gase: Winning record of 13-11 (2 games above .500) 437/663 (65.9%), 4,974 passing yards (7.5 yards per pass attempt), 36 TD's/21 INTs and a respectable QB Rating of 93.2. S. Darnold under Gase: Losing record of 7-14 (7 games below .500), 415/682 (60.9%), 4,452 passing yards (6.5 yards per pass attempt), 24 TD's/22 INTs and a laughable QB Rating of 78.3. I despise Adam Gase and I'm sorry but Ryan Tannehill is just an overall much better NFL QB than Sam Darnold could ever become (with or without "Gase") and has been nothing more than yet another USC bust QB. He stinks. Man this guy really does suck. And I don't mean Sam Darnold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said: I really can't stand how Sam Darnold apologists point to Tannehill under Gase as some type of excuse for Sam Darnold under Gase. Sam just stinks. Tannehill under Gase: Winning record of 13-11 (2 games above .500) 437/663 (65.9%), 4,974 passing yards (7.5 yards per pass attempt), 36 TD's/21 INTs and a respectable QB Rating of 93.2. S. Darnold under Gase: Losing record of 7-14 (7 games below .500), 415/682 (60.9%), 4,452 passing yards (6.5 yards per pass attempt), 24 TD's/22 INTs and a laughable QB Rating of 78.3. I despise Adam Gase and I'm sorry but Ryan Tannehill is just an overall much better NFL QB than Sam Darnold could ever become (with or without "Gase") and has been nothing more than yet another USC bust QB. He stinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 it really wouldn't be bad to fall off 1. We would trade down a couple times and really fill some gaps in this roster we cant with just the 1 pick. This team is a disaster all around. I have made the Joe Burrow comparison before....Bengals are still a 2 win team 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 hours ago, hamat711 said: A few years ago, fans of QB needy teams were shouting "suck for sam". Before Lawrence, many were considering Sam as the next big thing. Sam might not be in the same tier as Lawrence/Luck, but he was one of the highest graded prospects this decade. Many here believe Lawrence will solve most of the Jets' problem, but that is false. The Jets have many underlying issues that will be masked if the they get Lawrence. If Sam plays the Jets out of the range of the top QBs, the Jets will be forced to address many of their underlying issues. Everybody except for some homers knew the Jets offense would be awful this year. What we didn't know, was how bad the defense would be. The regression of the defense is mainly on Joe Douglas after whiffing on all his DB signings, trading away Jamal, and not addressing the pass rush. I kept on telling people on this board that the O-line barely got better and the WRs got worse, and very few believed me. Many in the media said it would be unfair to judge Darnold this year. So why are people shocked that Sam is performing poorly? The kid deserves a fair shot, and the Jets never gave it to him. Sam deserves a lot of blame for his regression, but the Jets tried their hardest to make it impossible for him. 1. He was playing for a lame duck HC and had to learn a new system after his first year. 2. The Jets hired Adam Gase, who had failed to develop Ryan Tannehill, to develop Sam Darnold. It's sad how stupid this decision was. 3. The Jets then hired Joe Douglas, who did the bare minimum to help his young QB, because he wouldn't be held accountable for his performance. Luck retired because his franchise couldn't protect him. Stafford has one of the most underwhelming careers for a franchise QB because the organization is dysfunctional. Burrow's leg got destroyed because the Bengals couldn't protect him. Justin Herbert is losing despite having the best rookie season of all time. Thanks for the info Manish 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jets81 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 9 hours ago, hamat711 said: The Jets have many underlying issues that will be masked if the they get Lawrence. That alone would indicate that he was the right pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Mogglez said: He negated all of that by turning the ball over three times. The Raiders scored points off of all 3 turnovers. Adam Gase is a bad head coach. Sam Darnold doesn’t need Adam Gase to tell him “don’t throw across your body, into triple coverage, while on the move, when we’re in scoring territory.” Enough with this. Right, the OP said he didn't score 2 TDs in his last 5 games so I guess because he had 3 TO's, one that was totally on the OL, one because the WR was lazy, and one that was totally on him, he didn't score them. I have never seen people hate on a QB like this, not even Geno got this treatement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I am rooting hard for world peace and an end to famine and struggle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Jet fans brace yourselves as we hit the final stretch of the season. As Trevor continues to shine and the Jets continue to lose please be on the look out for: 1.The Jet fan Darnold apologists 2. envious NE, MIA Buffalo fans - NE = No QB, MIA = Unsure often injured QB, Buffalo = has a inconsistent, dr jekyll and mr hyde type QB 3. Any fan base that don’t have Deshan Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers. 4. The narrative will go from, Trevor will go back to school to Trevor will avoid the Jets to Trevor will be a bust and the Jets will break him. This is New York CITY, the most known city and place in the entire United States of America, we are loved as much as we are hated. Most people think Trevor Lawrence will be the next Mahomes, Rodgers etc. many fan bases are envious. just prepare for these things Jets fans ? p.S. What y’all expect from a bills fan?Upstate blows compared to the City ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, oatmeal said: Jet fans brace yourselves as we hit the final stretch of the season. As Trevor continues to shine and the Jets continue to lose please be on the look out for: 1.The Jet fan Darnold apologists 2. envious NE, MIA Buffalo fans - NE = No QB, MIA = Unsure often injured QB, Buffalo = has a inconsistent, dr jekyll and mr hyde type QB 3. Any fan base that don’t have Deshan Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers. 4. The narrative will go from, Trevor will go back to school to Trevor will avoid the Jets to Trevor will be a bust and the Jets will break him. This is New York CITY, the most known city and place in the entire United States of America, we are loved as much as we are hated. Most people think Trevor Lawrence will be the next Mahomes, Rodgers etc. many fan bases are envious. just prepare for these things Jets fans ? p.S. What y’all expect from a bills fan?Upstate blows compared to the City ? If jets pick 1, JD is taking Lawrence. Nothing can stop that. Not fans, not media, not Kiper, not nobody. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 12 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Whoa @Mogglez posted that gif in another thread and I damn near laughed so hard I almost choked and had a heart attack. I re-posted it here. He posted it as a reply to T0m or someone talking about a fat drunk fan or whatever. Here it has nothing to do with anything other than, well nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: He posted it as a reply to T0m or someone talking about a fat drunk fan or whatever. Here it has nothing to do with anything other than, well nothing Im giving him credit for that great gif that fits in so many places. Nothing to see here. Its all good and it was a great laugh for me and others, Happy Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Where is the best Bills forum to troll after they lose to the Steelers this Sunday night? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, playtowinthegame said: Where is the best Bills forum to troll after they lose to the Steelers this Sunday night? Pittsburgh is banged up the Bills might have a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 hours ago, kevinc855 said: it really wouldn't be bad to fall off 1. We would trade down a couple times and really fill some gaps in this roster we cant with just the 1 pick. This team is a disaster all around. I have made the Joe Burrow comparison before....Bengals are still a 2 win team And the Burrow comment is just as ridiculous today as it was whenever you've said it before. A FQB in place means a team has made the biggest move towards a return to contention. Easiest upgrade to recognize with regards to the game, not hard to understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 12 hours ago, Mogglez said: Absolutely nobody here (and I mean nobody) cares what a Buffalo Bills fan, who spends more of his free time on a Jets forum than discussing his own team, is rooting for when it comes to the Jets and their players. I'm rooting for Darnold to be traded to the Bills and start over Josh next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 100 or so mil in cap space, good use of the multiple early round picks, TL and the team is moving in the right direction quickly Sorry Bills fans dont see it that way but not terribly shocked either. Proof is in the trolling thread to say all this isnt true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: 100 or so mil in cap space, good use of the multiple early round picks, TL and the team is moving in the right direction quickly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggy001 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 If i were a fan of other teams in afc east, i would root for that too. JL will very quickly be the best Qb in that division. That said, they have zero chance of beating seattle or the rams, and maybe a 25% chance of beating browns. Will likely come down to Ne game which Stidham plays. Really rooting for a Jags win in next 4 wks, which would seal this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Jet Nut said: And the Burrow comment is just as ridiculous today as it was whenever you've said it before. A FQB in place means a team has made the biggest move towards a return to contention. Easiest upgrade to recognize with regards to the game, not hard to understand Guy hasn’t taken a snap in the nfl yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 22 hours ago, hamat711 said: A few years ago, fans of QB needy teams were shouting "suck for sam". Before Lawrence, many were considering Sam as the next big thing. Sam might not be in the same tier as Lawrence/Luck, but he was one of the highest graded prospects this decade. Many here believe Lawrence will solve most of the Jets' problem, but that is false. The Jets have many underlying issues that will be masked if the they get Lawrence. If Sam plays the Jets out of the range of the top QBs, the Jets will be forced to address many of their underlying issues. Everybody except for some homers knew the Jets offense would be awful this year. What we didn't know, was how bad the defense would be. The regression of the defense is mainly on Joe Douglas after whiffing on all his DB signings, trading away Jamal, and not addressing the pass rush. I kept on telling people on this board that the O-line barely got better and the WRs got worse, and very few believed me. Many in the media said it would be unfair to judge Darnold this year. So why are people shocked that Sam is performing poorly? The kid deserves a fair shot, and the Jets never gave it to him. Sam deserves a lot of blame for his regression, but the Jets tried their hardest to make it impossible for him. 1. He was playing for a lame duck HC and had to learn a new system after his first year. 2. The Jets hired Adam Gase, who had failed to develop Ryan Tannehill, to develop Sam Darnold. It's sad how stupid this decision was. 3. The Jets then hired Joe Douglas, who did the bare minimum to help his young QB, because he wouldn't be held accountable for his performance. Luck retired because his franchise couldn't protect him. Stafford has one of the most underwhelming careers for a franchise QB because the organization is dysfunctional. Burrow's leg got destroyed because the Bengals couldn't protect him. Justin Herbert is losing despite having the best rookie season of all time. Unless you have been away on a deserted island for the last 2 months, you will be tremendously disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Gonna be like the 80’s all over again for the OP. 0-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 So, how is that working out for you so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 22 hours ago, hamat711 said: A few years ago, fans of QB needy teams were shouting "suck for sam". Before Lawrence, many were considering Sam as the next big thing. Sam might not be in the same tier as Lawrence/Luck, but he was one of the highest graded prospects this decade. Many here believe Lawrence will solve most of the Jets' problem, but that is false. The Jets have many underlying issues that will be masked if the they get Lawrence. If Sam plays the Jets out of the range of the top QBs, the Jets will be forced to address many of their underlying issues. Everybody except for some homers knew the Jets offense would be awful this year. What we didn't know, was how bad the defense would be. The regression of the defense is mainly on Joe Douglas after whiffing on all his DB signings, trading away Jamal, and not addressing the pass rush. I kept on telling people on this board that the O-line barely got better and the WRs got worse, and very few believed me. Many in the media said it would be unfair to judge Darnold this year. So why are people shocked that Sam is performing poorly? The kid deserves a fair shot, and the Jets never gave it to him. Sam deserves a lot of blame for his regression, but the Jets tried their hardest to make it impossible for him. 1. He was playing for a lame duck HC and had to learn a new system after his first year. 2. The Jets hired Adam Gase, who had failed to develop Ryan Tannehill, to develop Sam Darnold. It's sad how stupid this decision was. 3. The Jets then hired Joe Douglas, who did the bare minimum to help his young QB, because he wouldn't be held accountable for his performance. Luck retired because his franchise couldn't protect him. Stafford has one of the most underwhelming careers for a franchise QB because the organization is dysfunctional. Burrow's leg got destroyed because the Bengals couldn't protect him. Justin Herbert is losing despite having the best rookie season of all time. tl,dr. Sam sucks. Always has, always will. Anybody would be an improvement. Shoot, I bet Seattle wouldn't even entertain a straight up swap for Geno.. and Geno is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Look i have accepted the fact that it’s the end of the road here for Sam. But I do agree that the organization failed him. I do think he still could have a good future in a better situation. We can’t screw up Lawrence like we did Sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 hours ago, kevinc855 said: Guy hasn’t taken a snap in the nfl yet Which has what exactly to do with Burrow? But now you dont want anyone to say he can be a Burrow because he hasnt taken a snap yet but you can comment about him to make your negative points without seeing him make a throw in the NFL? Lawrence is head and shoulders above Burrow as a college prospect. Just keep that in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 21 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said: If Sam can't throw at least 3 TDs against the worst Seattle NFL pass defense of All-Time (as Jet fans have reminded me of all year); well then there's something seriously wrong with the kid as a QB (maybe he can be moved to Fullback like Tim Tebow or go back to being a Linebacker). Bump. Against the worst pass defense within NFL history of All-Time (as I've been told and reminded throughout all of 2020 by Jet fans) Sam Darnold just went... • 14/26 - 53.8% - (Josh Allen of Wyoming). • Only 132 passing yards (embarrassing). • 5.1 yards per pass attempt (gross). • 0 TDs (disgusting). • An atrocious QB Rating of 68.1 (typical of him). •3 points (expected out of him). • (missed FGs or not) he's now gone 5/6 games played without a single TD thrown (and this is literally approaching David Carr status). ✓ Geno Smith during mop up duty just looked better than Sam Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 100 or so mil in cap space, good use of the multiple early round picks, TL and the team is moving in the right direction quickly Sorry Bills fans dont see it that way but not terribly shocked either. Proof is in the trolling thread to say all this isnt trueDude .. I think you should chill on the Bills ... right now they are 3 years ahead of us. And just beat the Steelers.Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamathToCaster Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 12/12/2020 at 9:50 PM, Defense Wins Championships said: I really can't stand how Sam Darnold apologists point to Tannehill under Gase as some type of excuse for Sam Darnold under Gase. Sam just stinks. Tannehill under Gase: Winning record of 13-11 (2 games above .500) 437/663 (65.9%), 4,974 passing yards (7.5 yards per pass attempt), 36 TD's/21 INTs and a respectable QB Rating of 93.2. S. Darnold under Gase: Losing record of 7-14 (7 games below .500), 415/682 (60.9%), 4,452 passing yards (6.5 yards per pass attempt), 24 TD's/22 INTs and a laughable QB Rating of 78.3. I despise Adam Gase and I'm sorry but Ryan Tannehill is just an overall much better NFL QB than Sam Darnold could ever become (with or without "Gase") and has been nothing more than yet another USC bust QB. He stinks. Wow. Just watched the video. Sam is the same mess he was back in 2017. Uncoachable. Needs to change his attitude or he will be out of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cp561 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 12/12/2020 at 10:37 PM, hamat711 said: It's a better position than rooting for loses. Dude get a life why are you even in this forum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 21 hours ago, munchmemory said: I'm rooting for Darnold to be traded to the Bills and start over Josh next season. nah, he rides the pine behind josh allen, josh allen mentors sam so he can be a competent b/u... they invest and run casinos in Niag Falls Canadian side. and run QB camps whne they retire, with jordan plamer as the ceo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Dude .. I think you should chill on the Bills ... right now they are 3 years ahead of us. And just beat the Steelers. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using JetNation.com mobile app What does how many years you think theyre ahead of us have to do with me saying to a bills fan "Sorry Bills fans dont see it that way but not terribly shocked either. Proof is in the trolling thread to say all this isnt true"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, Cp561 said: Dude get a life why are you even in this forum its the only place he feels almost as safe as in sams rectum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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