AL047 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 BYU QB Zach Wilson is charging up 2021 NFL Draft boards (nypost.com) One NFL executive even said they believe that Wilson will ultimately overtake Fields in the coming months ahead of April’s 2021 NFL Draft. Ohio State’s Justin Fields was presumed to be the second-overall pick. But the Buckeyes QB has fallen under a little more scrutiny as the season has gone on. And BYU’s Zach Wilson has emerged as an elite playmaker, who went from a bubble first-round prospect to a potential top-10 pick. One NFL executive even said they believe that Wilson will ultimately overtake Fields in the coming months ahead of April’s 2021 NFL Draft. I'm not sold on Justin Fields, this is one QB that is beginning to show cracks on his armor!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peebag Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 smoke screen 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, peebag said: smoke screen Nope. If you haven't watched Wilson play, you should. He's the reason I'm not bothered that much if the Jets fall to #2. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 What cracks in armor has he shown? He only had 1 subpar game. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 I have a theory that no Jets fan actually wants Fields or anyone else over Lawrence. It's emotional hedging against the disappointment if Gase somehow trips over his Johnsons and falls into a win. 4 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Yep, Fields slid a bit after a bad game against Indiana I think. Followed it up with a very solid game against Mich. ST. Yes Wilson has really been on the rise. Really impressed me in a loss to Coastl Carolina. At least 3 good QB's in this draft. Wish Lance had played 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: What cracks in armor has he shown? He only had 1 subpar game. I love Fields as an NFL prospect so I'm not bashing him, but 3 picks in one game is not good. Other then that your right, he's having an outstanding year. So is Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, jgb said: I have a theory that no Jets fan actually wants Fields or anyone else over Lawrence. It's emotional hedging against the disappointment if Gase somehow trips over his Johnsons and falls into a win. Trey Lance is the other QB that I wouldn't mind us taking but I can't say that I'm an expert on any of these guys. My trust is in Joe D. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 Lawrence is the #1 pick for sure but the difference between him and several other QBs in the end will be a lot smaller than people are projecting. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Trey Lance is the other QB that I wouldn't mind us taking but I can't say that I'm an expert on any of these guys. My trust is in Joe D. My trust is in an independent JD. Wish we could check him for puppet strings before draft/HC selection process. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, flgreen said: I love Fields as an NFL prospect so I'm not bashing him, but 3 picks in one game is not good. Othere then that your right, he's having an outstanding year. So is Wilson Sure, but it's not like Fields is throwing 3 picks in like every game consistently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, jgb said: I have a theory that no Jets fan actually wants Fields or anyone else over Lawrence. It's emotional hedging against the disappointment if Gase somehow trips over his Johnsons and falls into a win. 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I like Wilson’s arm talent but the real question with him, and even Fields, do they have the processor to be successful in the NFL? Wilson is interesting though. If you like him enough, you can trade down from #2 overall & presumably still get him in the top 10-12. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawkeyeJet Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 So many people hate Sam Darnold but are falling for Zach Wilson, who is Sam Darnold in the Mountain West. 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 plenty of options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Lawrence/Mayfield Wilson/Darnold Lance/Allen Fields/Jackson Its happening all over again... Maybe we pick the right guy this time in the right spot though. Edit for clarification: Not comparing each player. Just that theres 4 prospects somewhat projected closely together, and we could end up choosing badly again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Is Mac Jones the #3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: So many people hate Sam Darnold but are falling for Zach Wilson, who is Sam Darnold in the Mountain West. Preposterous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrcoops Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 If I'm picking at #2, I pick Fields and don't look back. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, southtown24th said: Is Mac Jones the #3? Lawrence Fields Wilson Lance Mac Joes I like Mac Jones a lot. He is not a guy that will totally turn around a terrible team but he has looked very good in a lot of important areas for Bama, his pocket presence is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, JTJet said: Lawrence/Mayfield Wilson/Darnold Lance/Allen Fields/Jackson Its happening all over again... Maybe we pick the right guy this time in the right spot though. The funny thing is that the reaction on this board would’ve been nuclear if the Jets had taken Josh Allen over Darnold in that number #3 spot. IF the Jets end up picking second instead of first, and take Wilson over Fields, what would the reaction be? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 The best thing for us is the ascension of Kyle Trask and Mac Jones. Neither is blue chip but both could end up in the first round. Let talent fall to us. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, JTJet said: Lawrence/Mayfield Wilson/Darnold Lance/Allen Fields/Jackson Its happening all over again... Maybe we pick the right guy this time in the right spot though. Edit for clarification: Not comparing each player. Just that theres 4 prospects somewhat projected closely together, and we could end up choosing badly again. Lol what? The only como you made there that makes any sense is Lance/ Allen and even then Lance is more likely to succeed than Allen. I don’t mean that Lance will be better than Allen but simple that Allen’s success is without precedent while Lance’s would be more understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Preposterous What's preposterous about it? Athletic guy who everyone raves about his "off script" play making ability. Questionable decision making at times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Let me guess, the NFL executive who said this works for Jacksonville? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: So many people hate Sam Darnold but are falling for Zach Wilson, who is Sam Darnold in the Mountain West. nobody hates sam. hes a nice kid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I can’t believe people still think there’s a chance the Jets pull out a win. Lawrence will be a Jet. I don’t give two sh*ts about any other QB in this class and neither should any of you. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Lol what? The only como you made there that makes any sense is Lance/ Allen and even then Lance is more likely to succeed than Allen. I don’t mean that Lance will be better than Allen but simple that Allen’s success is without precedent while Lance’s would be more understandable. These are not comparisons of each player. Just that there are 4 QB prospects tightly grouped together again when we are picking one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I like Wilson, but he looks extremely small on the field i know he’s listed at 6’2” or something, but he looks about 5’11” 170 on tv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I hate them both. I only want Lawrence. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Lawrence is the #1 pick for sure but the difference between him and several other QBs in the end will be a lot smaller than people are projecting. I think the "small difference" between Lawerence and anyone else will play out in the media and with fans but amongst NFL personnel the gap will be very, very wide. Sure there are reasons you can make as to why you think Lawerence might be "overrated" - supporting cast, never had to deal with adversity, "deep ball accuracy", etc. But the reason Lawerence is so elite is not just because he has a good arm, is 6'6 and can run, its because he actually plays the position at an elite level. That isnt gonna necessarily result in highlights and it may actually serve to pump up his supporting cast but simply getting the ball to the open player, whether its down the field or a check down is the job, and Lawrence does that job better then any QB in a long time and has done so since his freshman year. To win a SB you will absolutely need your QB to string together elite play, game winning drives etc in the playoffs and make a or 2 "wow throws a game". But he will also need to make all the small plays throughout the season to get you to 10+ wins every year and into the playoffs to begin with and thats where Lawerence excels and why there is zero chance anyone unseats him as the #1 overall pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, BCJet said: I think the "small difference" between Lawerence and anyone else will play out in the media and with fans but amongst NFL personnel the gap will be very, very wide. Sure there are reasons you can make as to why you think Lawerence might be "overrated" - supporting cast, never had to deal with adversity, "deep ball accuracy", etc. But the reason Lawerence is so elite is not just because he has a good arm, is 6'6 and can run, its because he actually plays the position at an elite level. That isnt gonna necessarily result in highlights and it may actually serve to pump up his supporting cast but simply getting the ball to the open player, whether its down the field or a check down is the job, and Lawrence does that job better then any QB in a long time and has done so since his freshman year. To win a SB you will absolutely need your QB to string together elite play, game winning drives etc in the playoffs and make a or 2 "wow throws a game". But he will also need to make all the small plays throughout the season to get you to 10+ wins every year and into the playoffs to begin with and thats where Lawerence excels and why there is zero chance anyone unseats him as the #1 overall pick. As I've said a few times this notre dame game and then the nat champ playoffs is critical to see if lawrence is as you and every one else says he is. Last year playing teams with similar talent (ohio state and then lsu) he did nothing to appear to be gods gift to QBing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Yes, let’s believe what they say about top 5 QB prospects ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 We are what, 3 years removed from rosen/darnold/ mayfield/ Allen/ Jackson we know nothing, they know nothing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 At this point, seeing that our GM’s have been so wrong in picking the right guy in the past, The probability/ stats/ analytics would conclude that this team’s brain chest will whiff again. So why not let the World’s top Madden NFL player choose or better yet a Chimp decide? Just venting. The draft can’t come soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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