shrekman1 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 A few years back we were all cheering "Suck for Sam!' Well, we got our wish. We suck & we got Sam. (USC Qb's never pan out) Now we are trying this again. "Tank for Trevor!' Now who do we get to coach the kid, OTHER WISE IN THREE YEARS WE WILL BE DOING THIS AGAIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, shrekman1 said: A few years back we were all cheering "Suck for Sam!' Well, we got our wish. We suck & we got Sam. (USC Qb's never pan out) Now we are trying this again. "Tank for Trevor!' Now who do we get to coach the kid, OTHER WISE IN THREE YEARS WE WILL BE DOING THIS AGAIN. its about the player not being a bust more than the coach, but yeah, theres still bust risk 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 It could have been worse. We could have spent $30mil a year on Cousins to be less than mediocre. Now at least we have another top pick to try again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted December 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 This thread is so timely going into week 15 at 0-13 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted December 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 There's always bust risk. Always. There are no sure things. But we still need a QB. The quarterback play this year has been really bad. It's a weakness. It also happens to be the most important position in team sports. So . . . yeah. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Savage69 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, shrekman1 said: A few years back we were all cheering "Suck for Sam!' Well, we got our wish. We suck & we got Sam. (USC Qb's never pan out) Now we are trying this again. "Tank for Trevor!' Now who do we get to coach the kid, OTHER WISE IN THREE YEARS WE WILL BE DOING THIS AGAIN. Now it's just Sam Sucks.. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Icer Posted December 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 So what? Sam Darnold wasn't the first and he won't be the last QB drafted highly to bust in the NFL. You keep trying until you find the right one 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 It might have given Darnold a chance if the Jets went 1-15 in 2017 and kept the 3 2nd rounders rather than playing McCown and winning 5 meaningless games. I'm sure some of you got great enjoyment from that 5-11 season and take pride in those wins and escaping the embarrassment of going 0-16 or 1-15. Those 5 wins set the foundation for a winning culture and a successful rebuild. The Jets could have drafted Will Hernandez or Nick Chubb and DJ Chark and Deebo Samuel with those picks. Instead we got the unbridled joy from beating Jacksonville and Cleveland and Buffalo and the Chiefs- if anyone can even remember those wins. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static14 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Remember when this board used to be filled with mostly Jets fans? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 48 minutes ago, shrekman1 said: A few years back we were all cheering "Suck for Sam!' Well, we got our wish. We suck & we got Sam. (USC Qb's never pan out) Now we are trying this again. "Tank for Trevor!' Now who do we get to coach the kid, OTHER WISE IN THREE YEARS WE WILL BE DOING THIS AGAIN. Suck for Sam 2018! Tank for Trevor 2021! Blow for Bob 2024! Lose for Lou 2027! Fail for Frederick 2030! Trounced for Tom 2034! Suffer for Samuel 2038! Squander for Saquon 2040! Etc. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Warfish said: Suck for Sam 2018! Tank for Trevor 2021! Blow for Bob 2024! Lose for Lou 2027! Fail for Frederick 2030! Trounced for Tom 2034! Suffer for Samuel 2038! Squander for Saquon 2040! Etc. Oooooooooh, that Bob kid sounds good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Actually no the jets had to trade up 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Sam is the starting QB and we are on the doorsteps of a 0 - 16 season, why is this even a question?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 Whether we finish 0-16, 3-13, or anything in between, this franchise still needs a QB and will be drafting one. Deal with it. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Sam is the starting QB and we are on the doorsteps of a 0 - 16 season, why is this even a question?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, freestater said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: It might have given Darnold a chance if the Jets went 1-15 in 2017 and kept the 3 2nd rounders rather than playing McCown and winning 5 meaningless games. I'm sure some of you got great enjoyment from that 5-11 season and take pride in those wins and escaping the embarrassment of going 0-16 or 1-15. Those 5 wins set the foundation for a winning culture and a successful rebuild. The Jets could have drafted Will Hernandez or Nick Chubb and DJ Chark and Deebo Samuel with those picks. Instead we got the unbridled joy from beating Jacksonville and Cleveland and Buffalo and the Chiefs- if anyone can even remember those wins. D.K Metcalf was the very last player selected during the 2nd round; during a draft in which we didn't have a 2nd round pick (thnx to Macc/Sam). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 RemEmbEr dRAftInG jAmsL sAdduMs inSTeAd uV pAtrCk MaHOmeS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Remember when the Colts once drafted Jeff George #1 overall before getting lucky the next time they drafted #1 overall by selecting Peyton Manning? The Colts drafted Jeff George #1 overall during the 1990 NFL draft and by the time 1994 came around (only had him for 4 years) Jeff George was already an Atlanta Falcons. Does that mean by the time 1998 came around and the Colts (once again) had the #1 overall pick that they should've simply ran away from Peyton Manning all because "Jeff George" busted before him; instead of swinging on a can't miss #1 rated blue chip QB prospect since dating back to only John Elway in #18? You see. The Colts took a (no brainier) gamble that paid off while @ the same time providing their young Franchise LT in Tarik Glenn (drafted the year before Manning and ended up becoming a 3x Pro Bowler and SB Champion) and a young WR in Marvin Harrison; with a true Franchise QB in order to develop alongside of. Just like our Jets are on the verge of doing with Trevor Lawrence for both of Mekhi Becton and Denzel Mims; providing these kids with a true blue chip Franchise QB in order to develop alongside of. And after Indianapolis had Manning/Harrison/Glenn in place @ QB/LT/WR? The very next draft they had the luxury of drafting a RUNNING BACK in Edgerrin James with the 4th overall pick of the 1st round (1999). The rest was history in the makings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Well this was before we knew Sam sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Suck along with Sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Whether we finish 0-16, 3-13, or anything in between, this franchise still needs a QB and will be drafting one. Deal with it. Do you think the Jets would take the 4th best QB in the Draft (the leftover) or use the pick to build the team and hold off on QB until 2022? I think I'd rather have them take the 2nd best WR or the 2nd best OT rather than the 4th best QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Mike135 said: It could have been worse. We could have spent $30mil a year on Cousins to be less than mediocre. Now at least we have another top pick to try again. 99.7, 107.4 and 102.7 are his QB Ratings for the three years in Minnesota. That easily trumps any QB Rating numbers a Jets QB has put up in the franchise history. I don’t know about you but I think a QB with those kinds of stats would’ve changed the direction of this dumpster fire organization. Not to mention having three extra second rounders AND Quenton Nelson (who was drafted with the original Jets pick). So picking between Sam and Kirk is an easy choice with hindsight on our hand. Not sure how you came up with “It could have been worse”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Icer said: So what? Sam Darnold wasn't the first and he won't be the last QB drafted highly to bust in the NFL. You keep trying until you find the right one So true! Not sure why my exes disagree though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: 99.7, 107.4 and 102.7 are his QB Ratings for the three years in Minnesota. That easily trumps any QB Rating numbers a Jets QB has put up in the franchise history. I don’t know about you but I think a QB with those kinds of stats would’ve changed the direction of this dumpster fire organization. Not to mention having three extra second rounders AND Quenton Nelson (who was drafted with the original Jets pick). So picking between Sam and Kirk is an easy choice with hindsight on our hand. Not sure how you came up with “It could have been worse”. One of the better offensive lines in the game. One of the best RBs. And a very good WR corps. Cousins here would have been a disaster. Not sure how you're comparing the QB rating of a $30mil QB with one of the better offenses, to Sam on the disgrace that is the Jets offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, Mike135 said: One of the better offensive lines in the game. One of the best RBs. And a very good WR corps. Cousins here would have been a disaster. Not sure how you're comparing the QB rating of a $30mil QB with one of the better offenses, to Sam on the disgrace that is the Jets offense. Sorry to say but Sam has been sh*t even when he has had time to throw. And maybe Kirks offense is one of the better offense cuz he’s a tad bit better than our beloved 0-13 QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 8 hours ago, shrekman1 said: A few years back we were all cheering "Suck for Sam!' Well, we got our wish. We suck & we got Sam. (USC Qb's never pan out) Now we are trying this again. "Tank for Trevor!' Now who do we get to coach the kid, OTHER WISE IN THREE YEARS WE WILL BE DOING THIS AGAIN. Good. I'm just happy the Jets are taking more 1st rd QB's until they get i right. There was a 17 yr gap between Kenny O and Chad. Ridiculous. I wonder if Arizona fans complained this much when they were taking Kyler Murray. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 11 hours ago, slimjasi said: There's always bust risk. Always. There are no sure things. But we still need a QB. The quarterback play this year has been really bad. It's a weakness. It also happens to be the most important position in team sports. So . . . yeah. You are correct, always a bust risk. But if Trevor isn't a successful QB in the league, I will be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 More than anything it was horrible coaching and the inability to build around your young QB. I do t care how good of a QB you are if you literally have no talent or even adequate coaching around you then it’s not going to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Sam had the talent. Jets had Bowles, Gase, horrible rosters and dysfunctional owners 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cp561 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Yeah and guess what. If Lawrence or Fields ends up sucking, then we'll we hoping to suck for the next big thing as well. Its an endless cycle until you get it right at the QB position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 hours ago, shrekman1 said: A few years back we were all cheering "Suck for Sam!' Well, we got our wish. We suck & we got Sam. (USC Qb's never pan out) Now we are trying this again. "Tank for Trevor!' Now who do we get to coach the kid, OTHER WISE IN THREE YEARS WE WILL BE DOING THIS AGAIN. Where were you and those 12 hours ago, Warfish said: Suck for Sam 2018! Tank for Trevor 2021! Blow for Bob 2024! Lose for Lou 2027! Fail for Frederick 2030! Trounced for Tom 2034! Suffer for Samuel 2038! Squander for Saquon 2040! Etc. Just think how much tanking, blowing, losing, failing, trouncing, suffering or squandering we can save ourselves from if Trevor is anywhere near as talented as advertised and the Jets give this QB the tools to succeed A ridiculously high percentage of college star QBs fail, its the nature of the beast. Doesnt mean we should stop wanting one or drafting one and if we do wont stop reacting the same way. Again, its being a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 hours ago, Mike135 said: It could have been worse. We could have spent $30mil a year on Cousins to be less than mediocre. Now at least we have another top pick to try again. Maybe but then they would have had the draft picks they gave the dolts to move up a few spaces. If they signed cousins they still would’ve been able to draft Allen. That’s not a bad way to build for the future. And it’s not like cousins is a terrible QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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