Woody Johnson

[JetPotato]

18 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

what planet do u losers live on that you think the owner is ok to meddle in game-day roster decisions? literally the worst thing that could even happen in a professional sports franchise.

The worst thing? You really think the Jets could be worse?

The worst thing that can happen to a professional sports franchise is to be owner by these two idiots. 

[Stark]

4 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

I said it earlier in the week the NY Jet should have re-signed Luke Falk and named him the starting QB the rest of the way. 

I said same thing at the BYE

[BurnleyJet]

I used to think Woody Johnson was terrible until his Brother Chris turned up. Now that guy as no idea about football.

[k-met57]

2 hours ago, JetPotato said:

The worst thing? You really think the Jets could be worse?

The worst thing that can happen to a professional sports franchise is to be owner by these two idiots. 

You are wrong. The Johnson’s are many things but they let football people make football decisions...you should try being a Knick fan for 20 years if you want to know what real bad ownership is like.

[FidelioJet]

Johnsons are lacking the courage to have made a move like this.  Men that have never had to earn anything in their lives simply don't have the fortitude to put Sam and Flacco on the bench.

They were affraid of the pushback and Gases's legacy.

What's worse is it would have been an easy excuse - Sam was playing horribly, just pull him and say we want to look at other options.

[JetPotato]

21 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

You are wrong. The Johnson’s are many things but they let football people make football decisions...you should try being a Knick fan for 20 years if you want to know what real bad ownership is like.

Tell me: Who was the football person that brought us Tim Tebow? 

Johnson "football people": Adam Gase, John Idzik, Todd Bowles, Mike Tannenbaum, Mike Maccagnon.

And don't compare the Jets to the Knicks. At least stay in the realm of real sports. Not the NBA.

[nyjunc]

Some facts about Woody.  Woody ran things from 2000-2016(17 seasons).  In that time the Jets are:

 

6th in playoff wins in AFC since 2000(which includes 2017-current)

13th in NFL in playoff wins

1 AFC East title (same number as 1970-1999, 2017-2020)

2 AFC Championship Games (same number as 1970-1999, 2017-2020)

6 playoff appearances (just 2 less as other 44 seasons in Jets history)

6 playoff wins (same as other 44 seasons in Jets history)

Never had consecutive losing seasons

And he did all this during the Brady era which was the greatest dynasty the sport has seen.

 

And about Woody being cheap.  The man spent millions to get the West Side Stadium, wasn't his fault it didn't work.

He spent a mil on a new locker room at the old meadowlands just before it was being torn down for the benefit of current players at the time and attracting FAs.

He spent millions to build a new practice facility that is still considered among the best in the league.

He constantly allowed his GM to go out and get and big $ players they could to help improve the team.

 

Did he make mistakes post AFC Championship Game runs?  Absolutely starting with firing Tannenbaum and hiring Idzik but even with all that we never had back to back losing seasons under him.

 

The Woody hate is so insanely ridiculous.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, nyjunc said:

Some facts about Woody.  Woody ran things from 2000-2016(17 seasons).  In that time the Jets are:

 

6th in playoff wins in AFC since 2000(which includes 2017-current)

13th in NFL in playoff wins

1 AFC East title (same number as 1970-1999, 2017-2020)

2 AFC Championship Games (same number as 1970-1999, 2017-2020)

6 playoff appearances (just 2 less as other 44 seasons in Jets history)

6 playoff wins (same as other 44 seasons in Jets history)

Never had consecutive losing seasons

And he did all this during the Brady era which was the greatest dynasty the sport has seen.

 

And about Woody being cheap.  The man spent millions to get the West Side Stadium, wasn't his fault it didn't work.

He spent a mil on a new locker room at the old meadowlands just before it was being torn down for the benefit of current players at the time and attracting FAs.

He spent millions to build a new practice facility that is still considered among the best in the league.

He constantly allowed his GM to go out and get and big $ players they could to help improve the team.

 

Did he make mistakes post AFC Championship Game runs?  Absolutely starting with firing Tannenbaum and hiring Idzik but even with all that we never had back to back losing seasons under him.

 

The Woody hate is so insanely ridiculous.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Woody knew the entire time the WSS was never going to happen. Spending on a locker room? This is a benchmark now? FFS. How about shelling out something for a real coach?

[nyjunc]

Just now, Matt39 said:

Woody knew the entire time the WSS was never going to happen. Spending on a locker room? This is a benchmark now? FFS. How about shelling out something for a real coach?

Yet he spent and spent to try to make it happen.

Who are the "real coaches" we could have had but woody didn't spend?  Do we not remember he TWICE tried to make Parcells the highest paid coach to come back after BB left then after Groh left.

 

We've had our mostly successful stretch of sustained success under woody and did it in the Brady era.  That's amazing.  Any other era we have numerous AFC East titles and SB apps.

[The Crusher]

15 hours ago, JETSY14 said:

Obviously your not too bright. 

 

It's all about location location location. Woody needs to put no effort into this franchise because it's a cash cow being a New York team. We are the 6 th most valuable franchise in the NFL.

So your telling me we are the 6 th most valuable franchise because we had 2 winning seasons in 10 years???

 

Weare valued right behind the giants who have won 2 superbowls in recent memory only because of location and nothing else. 

 

This franchise is like having having property in the 5 boros of New York... the value keeps going up astromically even in the hood. 

Woody can let this franchise rot year after year and still fill his pockets with 0% effort. This is clearly evident under his leadership

Be better if we could attack people points with insulting them . Thanks 

[Matt39]

Just now, nyjunc said:

Yet he spent and spent to try to make it happen.

Who are the "real coaches" we could have had but woody didn't spend?  Do we not remember he TWICE tried to make Parcells the highest paid coach to come back after BB left then after Groh left.

 

We've had our mostly successful stretch of sustained success under woody and did it in the Brady era.  That's amazing.  Any other era we have numerous AFC East titles and SB apps.

Fans no need to worry about the team stinking for a decade  or hiring a Dolphins reject- we have a nice locker room!

[nyjunc]

Just now, Matt39 said:

Fans no need to worry about the team stinking for a decade  or hiring a Dolphins reject- we have a nice locker room!

He hasn't been involved since 2016 and in this decade under woody they made an AFC Championship Game and had only 3 losing seasons from 2010-2016.

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, nyjunc said:

He hasn't been involved since 2016 and in this decade under woody they made an AFC Championship Game and had only 3 losing seasons from 2010-2016.

Go out, get a college coach who has built multiple programs, pay him above market rate and let him run the team. Matt Campbell has won in two spots where it’s traditionally hard to win. That’s how you know he can coach. That is how you fix this. Anything else is unacceptable.

[y2k8]

10 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Some facts about Woody.  Woody ran things from 2000-2016(17 seasons).  In that time the Jets are:

 

6th in playoff wins in AFC since 2000(which includes 2017-current)

13th in NFL in playoff wins

1 AFC East title (same number as 1970-1999, 2017-2020)

2 AFC Championship Games (same number as 1970-1999, 2017-2020)

6 playoff appearances (just 2 less as other 44 seasons in Jets history)

6 playoff wins (same as other 44 seasons in Jets history)

Never had consecutive losing seasons

And he did all this during the Brady era which was the greatest dynasty the sport has seen.

 

And about Woody being cheap.  The man spent millions to get the West Side Stadium, wasn't his fault it didn't work.

He spent a mil on a new locker room at the old meadowlands just before it was being torn down for the benefit of current players at the time and attracting FAs.

He spent millions to build a new practice facility that is still considered among the best in the league.

He constantly allowed his GM to go out and get and big $ players they could to help improve the team.

 

Did he make mistakes post AFC Championship Game runs?  Absolutely starting with firing Tannenbaum and hiring Idzik but even with all that we never had back to back losing seasons under him.

 

The Woody hate is so insanely ridiculous.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could have spent less. He just spent it on the wrong stuff.  Totally he and Jay Cross' fault. No one elses.

As for the early year success, he bought those assets and slowly ran it all into the ground.

Woody is a clown

[68JET11]

People need to let it go already, the rage is not good. The team you should be mad at is the RAMS who didn't show up to play. That team should have beaten us to a pulp, and they didn't. It's not the players fault for playing hard and wanting to win. There is no reason why the RAMS shouldn't have won that game.

Our team deserves our support, and while I want the #1 pick like most, I'm not letting this take me out of my mind. You want to make change, then let Chris and Woody know you don't want Adam Gase around anymore. Don't show up in 2021 to any games, don't buy merchandise, don't buy season tickets, cancel, your season tickets, fly planes.... there are many ways to send them a message.

[jetophile]

The problem with Woody Johnson, for example, is that just because he subsidized a hospital in his own name doesn't mean that he's qualified to be on the Hospital's Board of Surgeons. Yet still, behind closed doors . . . 

This has clearly spilled into him thinking that owning a football team means he is somehow related to Vince Lombardi. Riinnnng! Riinnng! "Hello?" "Hello, is this Woody Johnson?" "Yes, speaking." "You know nothing about football. Good day, Sir." "Who is this . . .?" "I SAID GOOD DAY!" *CLICK!*

[CanadienJetsFan]

17 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Some facts about Woody.  Woody ran things from 2000-2016(17 seasons).  In that time the Jets are:

 

6th in playoff wins in AFC since 2000(which includes 2017-current)

13th in NFL in playoff wins

1 AFC East title (same number as 1970-1999, 2017-2020)

2 AFC Championship Games (same number as 1970-1999, 2017-2020)

6 playoff appearances (just 2 less as other 44 seasons in Jets history)

6 playoff wins (same as other 44 seasons in Jets history)

Never had consecutive losing seasons

And he did all this during the Brady era which was the greatest dynasty the sport has seen.

 

And about Woody being cheap.  The man spent millions to get the West Side Stadium, wasn't his fault it didn't work.

He spent a mil on a new locker room at the old meadowlands just before it was being torn down for the benefit of current players at the time and attracting FAs.

He spent millions to build a new practice facility that is still considered among the best in the league.

He constantly allowed his GM to go out and get and big $ players they could to help improve the team.

 

Did he make mistakes post AFC Championship Game runs?  Absolutely starting with firing Tannenbaum and hiring Idzik but even with all that we never had back to back losing seasons under him.

 

The Woody hate is so insanely ridiculous.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Johnsons are not cheap.

The Johnsons of course want a winner.

They just haven’t figured out that their incessant need to be involved in football making decisions time and time again has failed them miserably.

They’re just bad decision makers, plain and simple.

Having a non football guy, like Hymie Elhai  as president tells you where their priorities lie. The president should have extensive experience in all things football so that when things go awry (like now) he can advise and recommend to ownership that a change is required and why a change is required. But if you have another “bean counter” as president, that important set of critical eyes and ears to ownership is non existent. 
 

 

[Anthony Jet]

18 hours ago, southtown24th said:

Worst Owners in Sports.

PERIOD.

James Dolan has him beat and it’s not even close.

Also until about 2 months ago the wilpons were worse 

 

[nyjunc]

38 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Go out, get a college coach who has built multiple programs, pay him above market rate and let him run the team. Matt Campbell has won in two spots where it’s traditionally hard to win. That’s how you know he can coach. That is how you fix this. Anything else is unacceptable.

I don't think he's leaving college but I would try.  Is Woody going to be involved in this process?  I'm not sure, I just know Chris cannot be making this decision.

 

Back to my question, what big time coach was available that woody refused to pay for?

[Lizard King]

18 hours ago, JETSY14 said:

Some of you delusional Jet fans need to wake up and smell the coffee.  Woody doesn't care about winning he only cares about one thing.... the franchise value

 

He bought the team for 635 million and this one win sh*t show is worth 3.55 billion dollars.  That's what Woody cares about. 

 

For all the fans that are upset that the Jets won a game... point your finger at upper management. The jaguars management wanted Trevor  Lawrence and made sure Minshew was on the bench bc he gave them the best opportunity to get wins. If this organization really wanted to secure Trevor they could of did more to" tank ".

 

Get it thru your head Woody doesn't care about playoffs or wins he cares about his pocket. As long as his franchise value is growing he doesn't give a yuck about this team. 

Hang in there. We are getting close To peak nfl. Give a couple years for receipts and ad revenue to decrease and valuations to drop 20% and he will scurry back into his wood paneled roach nest . Much like the Wilpon family. 

[nyjunc]

36 minutes ago, y2k8 said:

He could have spent less. He just spent it on the wrong stuff.  Totally he and Jay Cross' fault. No one elses.

As for the early year success, he bought those assets and slowly ran it all into the ground.

Woody is a clown

He bought into a franchise that had 1 playoff appearance in the previous 8 seasons and 2 in the previous 13.

He inherited cap issues and an aging roster that had to be retooled after 2001 and 2003 and they made the playoffs each time including winning only their second ever AFC East championship.  They then totally rebuilt and made 2 AFC Championship Games.

[JoePNYJ1]

17 hours ago, NYCfan said:

 

The only real winner yesterday was Trevor Lawrence who won't have to pull a John Elway or an Eli Manning and refuse to play for a dumpster fire franchise. 

oh Yeah?  because Jacksonville and Cincinnati are better?

[playtowinthegame]

Woody better get the hell out of London soon...it's about to turn into 28 Days Later over there. 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

8 hours ago, y2k8 said:

Woody is a clown

[JETSY14]

17 hours ago, nyjunc said:

He hasn't been involved since 2016 and in this decade under woody they made an AFC Championship Game and had only 3 losing seasons from 2010-2016.

So I assume you think an 8- 8 season is a winning season???

 

From 2011- 2016 season they had 5 losing seasons.... Thats a good track record???

[nyjunc]

On 12/23/2020 at 2:06 AM, JETSY14 said:

So I assume you think an 8- 8 season is a winning season???

 

From 2011- 2016 season they had 5 losing seasons.... Thats a good track record???

From 2011 to 2016 they had 3 losing seasons and they never had back to back losing seasons while woody was around.

[TMAC]

I am extremely critical of Woody and Fredo (CJ), but I don't believe he doesn't want to win.  Just ask Rex Ryan who said he never interfered.  He wants to win. It's not just about money. It's about respect and pride.  He just is not good at making football decisions and should stay the hell out of it.  Give Joe Douglas a chance to show what he can do.

[SAR I]

1 minute ago, TMAC said:

I am extremely critical of Woody and Fredo (CJ), but I don't believe he doesn't want to win.  Just ask Rex Ryan who said he never interfered.  He wants to win. It's not just about money. It's about respect and pride.  He just is not good at making football decisions and should stay the hell out of it.  Give Joe Douglas Adam Gase a chance to show what he can do.

Fixed it for you.

Adam Gase is the Football Man of Florham Park.  He hired Joe Douglas.

SAR I

[Morrissey]

On 12/21/2020 at 2:18 PM, southtown24th said:

Worst Owners in Sports.

PERIOD.

not even the worst owner in the NYC market...

[southtown24th]

10 minutes ago, Morrissey said:

not even the worst owner in the NYC market...

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh toss up between him and Dolan. Period.

[JetPotato]

32 minutes ago, Morrissey said:

not even the worst owner in the NYC market...

At least Dolan is in a band.

[munchmemory]

4 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

At least Dolan is in a band.

Especially with his rockstar good looks.   He's just so damn hot.

[TuscanyTile2]

On 12/21/2020 at 6:49 PM, BurnleyJet said:

I used to think Woody Johnson was terrible until his Brother Chris turned up. Now that guy as no idea about football.

They're like the Manning family for football nitwits

[THE BARON]

On 12/22/2020 at 8:14 AM, 68JET11 said:

People need to let it go already, the rage is not good. The team you should be mad at is the RAMS who didn't show up to play. That team should have beaten us to a pulp, and they didn't. It's not the players fault for playing hard and wanting to win. There is no reason why the RAMS shouldn't have won that game.

Our team deserves our support, and while I want the #1 pick like most, I'm not letting this take me out of my mind. You want to make change, then let Chris and Woody know you don't want Adam Gase around anymore. Don't show up in 2021 to any games, don't buy merchandise, don't buy season tickets, cancel, your season tickets, fly planes.... there are many ways to send them a message.

The outrage and the RAGE is well deserved.  Only the Jets brass could be foolish and inept enough to let a deadbeat coach cause the franchise and the fans to lose out on Trevor Lawrence.  Have a look at the score in the recent Bears/Jaguars game.  You'll see just how stupid the Jets brass is and how *determined* the Jaguars are not to left that gift get away.  Gase served Trevor Lawrence right up to the Jaguars and he did it with his middle finger held high at the Jets fans. 

Johnson should have *ORDERED* Joe Douglas to fire Gase three weeks ago.  From then, you give the temp coach orders to  "evaluate" the bench for 2021.  That includes having a good look at Captain Morgan. 

That is how it should have happened.   What the Jets brass did is not defensible in any way by any reasoning.

Instead of the next decade with a world beating QB, you get an extra helping of dog excrement as your consolation prize to go along with the worst season in team history.  

Enjoy it... 

[nyjunc]

1 minute ago, THE BARON said:

The outrage and the RAGE is well deserved.  Only the Jets brass could be foolish and inept enough to let a deadbeat coach cause the franchise and the fans to lose out on Trevor Lawrence.  Have a look at the score in the recent Bears/Jaguars game.  You'll see just how stupid the Jets brass is and how *determined* the Jaguars are not to left that gift get away.  Gase served Trevor Lawrence right up to the Jaguars and he did it with his middle finger held high at the Jets fans. 

Johnson should have *ORDERED* Joe Douglas to fire Gase three weeks ago.  From then, you give the temp coach orders to  "evaluate" the bench for 2021.  That includes having a good look at Captain Morgan. 

That is how it should have happened.   What the Jets brass did is not defensible in any way by any reasoning.

Instead of the next decade with a world beating QB, you get an extra helping of dog excrement as your consolation prize to the worst season in team history.  

Enjoy it... 

How did Gase cost them that chance? If he sucks as bad as you think he does why would you make a move?  When teams make moves it usually gives them a jolt.