7:00 - New York Knicks @ Indiana Pacers Game/Season Thread (Opening Night).

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3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

It's happening again?

Get out of my NY Knicks thread and take your ass back to New Jersey 

???

That's embarrassing bruh!!!!!

???????

NJ Nets also have 0 cap space and absolute CRAP for draft picks this offseason with 0 ability to improve upon last year's BUST TEAM. Only things that's different? All 4 are now 1 year OLDER and more injury prone ?

My Knicks? #1 Defense. 4 seed. Coach of the Year and now this offseason? #1 Cap Space and damn near 3 first round picks @ #19, #21 and #32 (going to trade up for a gem).

He's WAY better than Durant (ever was). Only 26 and will win a ring tomorrow without being 30+ and having to run to Steph Klay and Draymond @ GS. Greek Freak doing what your boy KD could NEVER DO (lead his team to a ring without ring chasing). Bron too. 

I'd honestly trade NJ Nets ENTIRE FAKE ASS BANDWAGON FAIRWEATHER "team" for just Giannis Antetokounmpo alone.

 

[#27TheDominator]

Thinking draft picks matter in the NBA is pretty funny.  I mean who doesn't think that the next Frank Ntilikina or Kevin Knox will push the Knicks over the top? 

[Matt39]

33 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Thinking draft picks matter in the NBA is pretty funny.  I mean who doesn't think that the next Frank Ntilikina or Kevin Knox will push the Knicks over the top? 

Bridges on the board when they took Knox too.

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1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Thinking draft picks matter in the NBA is pretty funny.  I mean who doesn't think that the next Frank Ntilikina or Kevin Knox will push the Knicks over the top? 

My Knicks drafted Immanuel Quickley @ pick #25 last year and as a rookie he....

A.) Drained over 100 3's.

B.) Made an NBA All-Rookie team.

C.) Now a team USA Select selection. 

We drafted the SEC Player of the Year @ pick #25 but this year we've got picks #19 and picks #21 (#32 and #58 too).

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1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Thinking draft picks matter in the NBA is pretty funny.  I mean who doesn't think that the next Frank Ntilikina or Kevin Knox will push the Knicks over the top? 

On a side note if you don't think draft picks matter in the NBA? Well then you should stick to Football because you obviously know nothing about basketball.

Let me teach you something since only clueless people think "NBA draft picks don't matter" ?

These are just a couple of players drafted outside of the Top-10 (something you obviously know nothing about).

HOF Basketball Players:

1983: Clyde Drexler (14th).

1984: John Stockton (16th).

1985: Karl Malone (13th).

1985: Joe Dumars (18th).

1986: Dennis Rodman (27th).

1987: Reggie Miller (11th).

1996: Kobe Bryant (13th).

1996: Steve Nash (15th).

1996: Ben Wallace (Undrafted).

1986: Arvydas Sabonis (24th)-(FIBA HOF).

1986: Dražen Petrović (60th)-(FIBA HOF).

1989 Vlade Divac (26th)-(FIBA HOF).

All-NBA team + All Star team:

1983: Clyde Drexler (14th).

1984: Kevin Willis (14th).

1984: John Stockton (16th).

1985: Karl Malone (13th).

1985: Joe Dumars (18th).

1986: Mark Price (25th).

1986: Dennis Rodman (27th).

1986: Dražen Petrović (60th).

1987: Reggie Miller (11th).

1988: Rod Strickland (19th).

1988: Anthony Mason (53rd).

1989: Tim Hardaway (14th).

1989: Shawn Kemp (17th).

1992: Latrell Sprewell (24th).

1993: Sam Cassell (24th).

1996: Kobe Bryant (13th).

1996: Peja Stojaković (14th).

1996: Steve Nash (15th).

1996: Jermaine O'Neal (17th).

1996: Ben Wallace (Undrafted).

1999: Ron Artest (16th).

1999: Manu Ginóbili (57th).

2000 Michael Redd (43rd).

2001: Zach Randolph (19th).

2001: Tony Parker (28th).

2001: Gilbert Arenas (31st).

2002: Carlos Boozer (35th).

2005: David Lee (30th).

2006: Rajon Rondo (21st).

2006: Kyle Lowry (24th).

2007: Marc Gasol (48th).

2008: DeAndre Jordan (35th).

2008: Goran Dragić (45th).

2011: Klay Thompson (11th).

2011: Kawhi Leonard (15th).

2011: Jimmy Butler (30th).

2011: Isaiah Thomas (60th).

2012: Draymond Green (35th).

2013: Giannis Antetokounmpo (15th).

2013: Rudy Gobert (27th).

2014: Nikola joker Jokić (41st).

2016: Pascal Siakam (27th).

All Stars Players:

1983: Doc Rivers (31st).

1985: A.C. Green (23rd).

1985: Terry Porter (24th).

1986: Kevin Duckworth (33rd).

1986: Jeff Hornacek (46th).

1987: Mark Jackson (18th).

1987: Reggie Lewis (22nd).

1988: Dan Majerle (14th).

1988: John Starks (Undrafted).

1989: Mookie Blaylock (12th).

1989: B.J. Armstrong (18th).

1989: Vlade Divac (26th).

1989: Clifford Robinson (36th).

1990: Jayson Williams (21st).

1990: Antonio Davis (45th).

1991: Dale Davis (13th)

1993: Allan Houston (11th).

1993: Nick Van Exel (37th).

1995: Theo Ratliff (18th).

1995: Michael Finley (21st).

1996: Žydrūnas Ilgauskas (20th).

1998: Rashard Lewis (32nd).

1999: Andrei AK-47 Kirilenko (24th).

2003: David West (18th).

2003: Kyle Korver (51st)

2005: Danny Granger (17th).

2006: Paul Millsap (47th).

2008: Roy Hibbert (17th).

2009: Jrue Holiday (17th).

2009: Jeff Teague (19th).

2011: Nikola Vučević (16th).

2012: Khris Middleton (39th).

2014: Zach LaVine: (13th).

2015: Devin Booker (13th).

2016: Domantas Sabonis (11th).

2017: Donovan Mitchell (13th).

2017: Bam Adebayo (14th overall).

Etc.

When did you even start watching basketball dude?

Just yesterday when the Nets signed KD/Harden/Kyrie/Blake? 

Because any "fan" of basketball who thinks NBA draft picks "don't matter" is no basketball fan @ all (outside of a clueless one).

Draft picks only don't matter to fake NJ Nets fans who only believe in FREE AGENTS ? because...

Jordan/Pippen = drafted by Chicago.

Robinson/Duncan/Parker/Manu/Kawhi = Drafted by San Antonio.

Steph/Klay/Draymond  = Drafted by Golden State.

Giannis Antetokounmpo = Drafted by Milwaukee (15th overall). 

Devin Booker = Drafted by Phoenix (13th overall).

etc.

When did you start watching basketball?

Yesterday?

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1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

Bridges on the board when they took Knox too.

Who cares? Just goes to show you that every single year teams can draft awesome players outside the top 9 etc. 

What does Knox have to do with 2021's NBA draft? 

Because my Knicks under Thibs have brand new scouts and they're awesome.

Last year @ pick #25 we stole the SEC Player of the Year who despite pick #25 not only made an NBA All-Rookie team but now a team USA Select selection. 

 

 

And our brand new scouts stole this kid @ pick #25 which means picks #19 and #21 are going to become absolutely awesome in a couple of days because 2021's NBA draft is 10x deeper than 2020's and they're saying the deepest since 1996!

Go NY go NY go!

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@#27TheDominator

But. But but. 

I thought you said "NBA DRAFT PICKS DON'T MATTER"?

HOF Basketball Players: DRAFTED OUTSIDE OF TOP 10.

1983: Clyde Drexler (14th).

1984: John Stockton (16th).

1985: Karl Malone (13th).

1985: Joe Dumars (18th).

1986: Dennis Rodman (27th).

1987: Reggie Miller (11th).

1996: Kobe Bryant (13th).

1996: Steve Nash (15th).

1996: Ben Wallace (Undrafted).

1986: Arvydas Sabonis (24th)-(FIBA HOF).

1986: Dražen Petrović (60th)-(FIBA HOF).

1989 Vlade Divac (26th)-(FIBA HOF).

All-NBA team + All Star team:

1983: Clyde Drexler (14th).

1984: Kevin Willis (14th).

1984: John Stockton (16th).

1985: Karl Malone (13th).

1985: Joe Dumars (18th).

1986: Mark Price (25th).

1986: Dennis Rodman (27th).

1986: Dražen Petrović (60th).

1987: Reggie Miller (11th).

1988: Rod Strickland (19th).

1988: Anthony Mason (53rd).

1989: Tim Hardaway (14th).

1989: Shawn Kemp (17th).

1992: Latrell Sprewell (24th).

1993: Sam Cassell (24th).

1996: Kobe Bryant (13th).

1996: Peja Stojaković (14th).

1996: Steve Nash (15th).

1996: Jermaine O'Neal (17th).

1996: Ben Wallace (Undrafted).

1999: Ron Artest (16th).

1999: Manu Ginóbili (57th).

2000 Michael Redd (43rd).

2001: Zach Randolph (19th).

2001: Tony Parker (28th).

2001: Gilbert Arenas (31st).

2002: Carlos Boozer (35th).

2005: David Lee (30th).

2006: Rajon Rondo (21st).

2006: Kyle Lowry (24th).

2007: Marc Gasol (48th).

2008: DeAndre Jordan (35th).

2008: Goran Dragić (45th).

2011: Klay Thompson (11th).

2011: Kawhi Leonard (15th).

2011: Jimmy Butler (30th).

2011: Isaiah Thomas (60th).

2012: Draymond Green (35th).

2013: Giannis Antetokounmpo (15th).

2013: Rudy Gobert (27th).

2014: Nikola joker Jokić (41st).

2016: Pascal Siakam (27th).

ALL-STAR Players.

1983: Doc Rivers (31st).

1985: A.C. Green (23rd).

1985: Terry Porter (24th).

1986: Kevin Duckworth (33rd).

1986: Jeff Hornacek (46th).

1987: Mark Jackson (18th).

1987: Reggie Lewis (22nd).

1988: Dan Majerle (14th).

1988: John Starks (Undrafted).

1989: Mookie Blaylock (12th).

1989: B.J. Armstrong (18th).

1989: Vlade Divac (26th).

1989: Clifford Robinson (36th).

1990: Jayson Williams (21st).

1990: Antonio Davis (45th).

1991: Dale Davis (13th)

1993: Allan Houston (11th).

1993: Nick Van Exel (37th).

1995: Theo Ratliff (18th).

1995: Michael Finley (21st).

1996: Žydrūnas Ilgauskas (20th).

1998: Rashard Lewis (32nd).

1999: Andrei AK-47 Kirilenko (24th).

2003: David West (18th).

2003: Kyle Korver (51st)

2005: Danny Granger (17th).

2006: Paul Millsap (47th).

2008: Roy Hibbert (17th).

2009: Jrue Holiday (17th).

2009: Jeff Teague (19th).

2011: Nikola Vučević (16th).

2012: Khris Middleton (39th).

2014: Zach LaVine: (13th).

2015: Devin Booker (13th).

2016: Domantas Sabonis (11th).

2017: Donovan Mitchell (13th).

2017: Bam Adebayo (14th overall).

Etc.

When did you even start watching basketball dude?

Just yesterday when the Nets signed KD/Harden/Kyrie/Blake? 

Because any "fan" of basketball who thinks NBA draft picks "don't matter" is no basketball fan @ all (outside of a clueless one).

Jordan/Pippen = drafted by Chicago.

Robinson/Duncan/Parker/Manu/Kawhi = Drafted by San Antonio.

Steph/Klay/Draymond = Drafted by Golden State.

Giannis Antetokounmpo = Drafted by Milwaukee (15th overall). 

Devin Booker = Drafted by Phoenix (13th overall).

but yeah when did you start watching NJ Nets basketball? Yesterday? 

[BroadwayJoe12]

Is mercury in retrograde again? That persistent b*tch.

[#27TheDominator]

Why did you tag me?  The 14 quotes of my last post were not enough?  Good players are drafted.  This is a newsflash?  The Bulls drafted Jordan and Pippen?  That is the model the Knicks are following? 

Also, I know you think it is masterful troll job, but when you read I was rooting for the Nets, you also read that I have been watching Nets basketball since Dr J, Super John and Larry Kenon.  They were the New York Nets.  Yep.  I am a fairweather fan. 

I have also been watching and rooting for the Knicks since Clyde, Willis and Monroe.  I worked for them for 15 years.  I missed 2 playoff games between 1996 and 2012 despite the fact that I lived in Milan for five of those years.  I like the Knicks and I am glad they seem headed in the right direction, but idiots getting ahead of themselves and thinking they are better than the Nets, Sixers and Bucks will annoy me to the point where I say something. 

[EM31]

The confrontational flavor in this thread is making it unreadable.  At least to me it does.  It needs to be seriously toned down and frankly it is not a case that there is blame on both sides.

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15 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

Why did you tag me?  The 14 quotes of my last post were not enough?  Good players are drafted.  This is a newsflash?  The Bulls drafted Jordan and Pippen?  That is the model the Knicks are following? 

Also, I know you think it is masterful troll job, but when you read I was rooting for the Nets, you also read that I have been watching Nets basketball since Dr J, Super John and Larry Kenon.  They were the New York Nets.  Yep.  I am a fairweather fan. 

I have also been watching and rooting for the Knicks since Clyde, Willis and Monroe.  I worked for them for 15 years.  I missed 2 playoff games between 1996 and 2012 despite the fact that I lived in Milan for five of those years.  I like the Knicks and I am glad they seem headed in the right direction, but idiots getting ahead of themselves and thinking they are better than the Nets, Sixers and Bucks will annoy me to the point where I say something. 

Dr. J was drafted outside of the top 10 (12th overall). Larry Kenon was drafted 50th overall. Etc. 

And I know you're a big time basketball fan man I'm just giving you a hard time because I don't know where the whole "Thinking draft picks matter in the NBA is pretty funny" came from?

Last year my Knicks stole the SEC Player of the Year in Immanuel Quickley who drained over 100 3s and now an NBA All-Rookie + USA Select selection and we drafted him 25th overall. 

And this year we've got picks #19, #21 and #32 and that's impossible for a longtime suffering NY fan to not be EXCITED about #27TD especially considering the fact many draft experts are predicting this draft from top to bottom as the deepest NBA draft class since 1996 (10x deeper than 2020's). 

But yeah I just don't see where you got off by saying NBA draft picks don't matter when Giannis Antetokounmpo was only drafted 15th overall (Finals MVP) and 2021's NBA MVP = Jokić drafted 41st overall. Heck Kobe Bryant 13th overall you can go on forever even your own boy Dražen Petrović (RIP) was drafted 60th overall and would've became a legend do you remember his 1 on 1 epic matchup vs Michael Jordan? Because I do. 

I just don't understand how or why you made that remark because NBA draft picks are just as important as NFL because you've only got 5 starting positions and can't afford to miss (trust me I'm a Knicks fan. I know how much they MATTER).