Augustiniak Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 so that's it, marvin lewis is going to be the next HC? how is he as an in-game coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: so that's it, marvin lewis is going to be the next HC? how is he as an in-game coach? I wouldn’t go that far lol. He’ll definitely be up there. As I said a few post back, also look for him to be a potential Asst. HC/DC for another specific candidate if they go with that person instead. *WINK, WINK* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Lewis h coached for like 15 years on the bengals and only had like 4 losing seasons. This dude had seasons galore like 8-8, 9-7, 10-6, 11-5. not sure why there is so much hate for him. And i dont recall any great teams or players on the old bengals soooooooo He's had 9 non winning seasons. Seems to love 8-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I don't doubt Mogglez has sources and I absolutely appreciate him sharing everything he shares but I could have predicted Marvi Lewis was going to get an interview based off nothing other than reading twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 WIN/LOSS some perspective here fellas......think about the mystery surrounding unproven OCs and DCs....think about how many year these guys were head coaches and most importantly think about the talent the had to work with: Beli .683 tomlin .642 Reid .618 Harbough .615 Carroll .596 Quinn .538 gruden .518 MARVIN LEWIS .518 k shanahan .479 gase .469 kingsbury .344 patricia .297 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I wouldn’t go that far lol. He’ll definitely be up there. As I said a few post back, also look for him to be a potential Asst. HC/DC for another specific candidate if they go with that person instead. *WINK, WINK* the other thing that bummed me out, was that they think so low of fields and wilson compared to darnold. by the time april rolls around i doubt that will still be the case. in particular i think wilson will be the hot qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, flgreen said: He's had 9 non winning seasons. Seems to love 8-8 yes he loves 8-8. these days so would I but look at the whole picture and keep in mind who the heck was on the bengals? Boomer? the defensive end guy? cant remember anyone else Team Regular season Postseason Year Won Lost Ties Win % Finish Won Lost Win % Result CIN 2003 8 8 0 .500 2nd in AFC North - - - CIN 2004 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2005 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Pittsburgh Steelers in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2006 8 8 0 .500 2nd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2007 7 9 0 .438 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2008 4 11 1 .281 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2009 10 6 0 .625 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to New York Jets in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2010 4 12 0 .250 4th in AFC North - - - - CIN 2011 9 7 0 .563 3rd in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Houston Texans in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2012 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Houston Texans in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2013 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to San Diego Chargers in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2014 10 5 1 .656 2nd in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Indianapolis Colts in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2015 12 4 0 .750 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Pittsburgh Steelers in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2016 6 9 1 .406 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2017 7 9 0 .438 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2018 6 10 0 .375 4t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 in 2015 marvin went 12-4 and won his division with these players: 2015 Cincinnati Bengals final roster Quarterbacks 14 Andy Dalton 5 AJ McCarron 3 Keith Wenning Running backs 25 Giovani Bernard 33 Rex Burkhead 32 Jeremy Hill 30 Cedric Peerman Wide receivers 15 Mario Alford 18 A. J. Green 82 Marvin Jones 12 Mohamed Sanu 19 Brandon Tate Tight ends 85 Tyler Eifert 44 Jake Fisher 89 Ryan Hewitt 81 Tyler Kroft 87 C.J. Uzomah Offensive linemen 61 Russell Bodine C 65 Clint Boling G 60 T. J. Johnson C 70 Cedric Ogbuehi T 71 Andre Smith T 77 Andrew Whitworth T 73 Eric Winston T 68 Kevin Zeitler G Defensive linemen 97 Geno Atkins DT 93 Will Clarke DE 96 Carlos Dunlap DE 95 Wallace Gilberry DE 91 Marcus Hardison DT 99 Margus Hunt DE 90 Michael Johnson DE 94 Domata Peko DT 92 Pat Sims DT 98 Brandon Thompson DT Linebackers 55 Vontaze Burfict OLB 47 Paul Dawson OLB 50 A. J. Hawk OLB 59 Emmanuel Lamur OLB 58 Rey Maualuga MLB 57 Vincent Rey MLB Defensive backs 29 Leon Hall CB 43 George Iloka SS 24 Adam Jones CB 27 Dre Kirkpatrick CB 37 Chris Lewis-Harris CB 20 Reggie Nelson FS 26 Josh Shaw CB 40 Derron Smith SS 36 Shawn Williams FS Special teams 46 Clark Harris LS 10 Kevin Huber P 2 Mike Nugent K 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I wouldn’t go that far lol. He’ll definitely be up there. As I said a few post back, also look for him to be a potential Asst. HC/DC for another specific candidate if they go with that person instead. *WINK, WINK* I knew Brian Billick was ready to come out of retirement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: the other thing that bummed me out, was that they think so low of fields and wilson compared to darnold. by the time april rolls around i doubt that will still be the case. in particular i think wilson will be the hot qb. Not to attack my own post lol, but I want to greatly stress that anything QB/draft related is soooooo far from being settled. Maybe I didn’t do a great job of initially expressing that. I wouldn’t say they think lowly of those two, I’d say it’s more indicative of what they still think of Sam. That being said, my OP was written in December and a lot has changed since then (Sam closing out the year very poorly, Wilson and Fields lighting it up, etc.) There’s so much that can still happen. The head coach will have a heavy influence on that decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, flgreen said: He's had 9 non winning seasons. Seems to love 8-8 With Andy Dalton he managed to be a perennial competitor. That alone earns him massive street cred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Im not saying he is great but compare this to our past: MARVIN .518 gase .469 bowles .388 rex .480 hermy .422 kotite .142 coslett .376 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paradis Posted January 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 I’m warming up to Lewis. The most important quality in this next coach is somebody who has either experience running a team, or has shown an undeniable ability to do that. That’s a huge ? With coordinators like Daboll. Marvin Lewis at the head of the table with a talented staff is a reasonably good low risk recipe 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: I’m warming up to Lewis. The most important quality in this next coach is somebody who has either experience running a team, or has shown an undeniable ability to do that. That’s a huge ? With coordinators like Daboll. Marvin Lewis at the head of the table with a talented staff is a reasonably good low risk recipe Yeah, I would not be upset about it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I wouldn’t go that far lol. He’ll definitely be up there. As I said a few post back, also look for him to be a potential Asst. HC/DC for another specific candidate if they go with that person instead. *WINK, WINK* Is that a clue like in Martindale 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, flgreen said: He's had 9 non winning seasons. Seems to love 8-8 or, you can view it as him having only 6 out of 16 LOSING seasons. Thats a .625 career NON losing season record compare that to the nfc east freaks that won their division with only like 6 or 7 wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, 56mehl56 said: Is that a clue like in Martindale 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Once again... Marvin Lewis turned the Bengals into a respectable team, I cannot stress that enough. I remember how bad they were growing up, it was akin to the Browns not too long ago. A laughingstock. The only knock on him you can say is that he didn't win a playoff game. And that's understandable. Then you realize he made the playoffs so many times with freaking Canelo Dalton. Had Carson Palmer not blew out his knee, I think things would have looked different for them (and better) 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: the other thing that bummed me out, was that they think so low of fields and wilson compared to darnold. by the time april rolls around i doubt that will still be the case. in particular i think wilson will be the hot qb. I think if any QB has a chance to shoot up the draft boards after the combine , its Trey Lance. I don't care what the competition if you throw 28 td's with not a single int and a comp % of like 67%, that's pretty impressive. If this kid interviews well at the combine , he may very well be #3 behind Lawrence and Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 OOOHHHHHHH I get it now. wink, wink Just read up on him. kinda like him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, 56mehl56 said: I think if any QB has a chance to shoot up the draft boards after the combine , its Trey Lance. I don't care what the competition if you throw 28 td's with not a single int and a comp % of like 67%, that's pretty impressive. If this kid interviews well at the combine , he may very well be #3 behind Lawrence and Fields. I totally agree. that guy is being completely ignored someone is gonna find themselves a good QB at the end of rd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Paradis said: I’m warming up to Lewis. The most important quality in this next coach is somebody who has either experience running a team, or has shown an undeniable ability to do that. That’s a huge ? With coordinators like Daboll. Marvin Lewis at the head of the table with a talented staff is a reasonably good low risk recipe 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Yeah, I would not be upset about it Given what he had to deal with as far as ownership goes and what he accomplished, I can’t completely hate the idea of hiring him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, King P said: Once again... Marvin Lewis turned the Bengals into a respectable team, I cannot stress that enough. I remember how bad they were growing up, it was akin to the Browns not too long ago. A laughingstock. The only knock on him you can say is that he didn't win a playoff game. And that's understandable. Then you realize he made the playoffs so many times with freaking Canelo Dalton. Had Carson Palmer not blew out his knee, I think things would have looked different for them (and better) I'd be fine with him as long as his OC wasn't Hue Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 55 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I wouldn’t go that far lol. He’ll definitely be up there. As I said a few post back, also look for him to be a potential Asst. HC/DC for another specific candidate if they go with that person instead. *WINK, WINK* There is only one coach who Lewis would be the DC for. Cowher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, King P said: Once again... Marvin Lewis turned the Bengals into a respectable team, I cannot stress that enough. I remember how bad they were growing up, it was akin to the Browns not too long ago. A laughingstock. The only knock on him you can say is that he didn't win a playoff game. And that's understandable. Then you realize he made the playoffs so many times with freaking Canelo Dalton. Had Carson Palmer not blew out his knee, I think things would have looked different for them (and better) yep and I just looked at their 2009 season. they lost the first playoff game, but to the stacked jets team which went on to the afc championship game (thats weird to type) In 2011 they lost the playoff game to the mighty harbaugh led ravens which ultimately got booted themselves to the Pats. I mean yes he has a bad playoff record, but at least he made it to the playoffs and with crap talent! the teams he lost to were stacked there really wasnt a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: There is only one coach who Lewis would be the DC for. Coward Yet he's a assistant for the great sun devils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 wow in 2005 marvin lost his playoff game. but to the steelers. who won the super bowl that year? take a wild guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, HighPitch said: yes he loves 8-8. these days so would I but look at the whole picture and keep in mind who the heck was on the bengals? Boomer? the defensive end guy? cant remember anyone else Team Regular season Postseason Year Won Lost Ties Win % Finish Won Lost Win % Result CIN 2003 8 8 0 .500 2nd in AFC North - - - CIN 2004 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2005 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Pittsburgh Steelers in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2006 8 8 0 .500 2nd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2007 7 9 0 .438 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2008 4 11 1 .281 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2009 10 6 0 .625 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to New York Jets in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2010 4 12 0 .250 4th in AFC North - - - - CIN 2011 9 7 0 .563 3rd in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Houston Texans in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2012 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Houston Texans in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2013 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to San Diego Chargers in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2014 10 5 1 .656 2nd in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Indianapolis Colts in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2015 12 4 0 .750 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Pittsburgh Steelers in AFC Wild Card Game. CIN 2016 6 9 1 .406 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2017 7 9 0 .438 3rd in AFC North - - - - CIN 2018 6 10 0 .375 4t Boomer, Chad Ochocinco, Corey Dillon , Willie Anderson, Carson Palmer, T J Houshmandzadeh, Rudi Johnson, Shayne Graham, Geno Atkins, Andy Dalton, A J Green, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, flgreen said: Boomer, Chad Ochocinco, Corey Dillon , Willie Anderson, Carson Palmer, T J Houshmandzadeh, Rudi Johnson, Shayne Graham, Geno Atkins, Andy Dalton, A J Green, thats BS you are calling out names of all their good players, but thats over more than a decade. those guys were not all on the same team at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, HighPitch said: in 2015 marvin went 12-4 and won his division with these players: 2015 Cincinnati Bengals final roster Quarterbacks 14 Andy Dalton 5 AJ McCarron 3 Keith Wenning Running backs 25 Giovani Bernard 33 Rex Burkhead 32 Jeremy Hill 30 Cedric Peerman Wide receivers 15 Mario Alford 18 A. J. Green 82 Marvin Jones 12 Mohamed Sanu 19 Brandon Tate Tight ends 85 Tyler Eifert 44 Jake Fisher 89 Ryan Hewitt 81 Tyler Kroft 87 C.J. Uzomah Offensive linemen 61 Russell Bodine C 65 Clint Boling G 60 T. J. Johnson C 70 Cedric Ogbuehi T 71 Andre Smith T 77 Andrew Whitworth T 73 Eric Winston T 68 Kevin Zeitler G Defensive linemen 97 Geno Atkins DT 93 Will Clarke DE 96 Carlos Dunlap DE 95 Wallace Gilberry DE 91 Marcus Hardison DT 99 Margus Hunt DE 90 Michael Johnson DE 94 Domata Peko DT 92 Pat Sims DT 98 Brandon Thompson DT Linebackers 55 Vontaze Burfict OLB 47 Paul Dawson OLB 50 A. J. Hawk OLB 59 Emmanuel Lamur OLB 58 Rey Maualuga MLB 57 Vincent Rey MLB Defensive backs 29 Leon Hall CB 43 George Iloka SS 24 Adam Jones CB 27 Dre Kirkpatrick CB 37 Chris Lewis-Harris CB 20 Reggie Nelson FS 26 Josh Shaw CB 40 Derron Smith SS 36 Shawn Williams FS Special teams 46 Clark Harris LS 10 Kevin Huber P 2 Mike Nugent K Prime Whitworth and uninjured Andre Smith Sewell and Becton, the prequel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, flgreen said: Boomer, Chad Ochocinco, Corey Dillon , Willie Anderson, Carson Palmer, T J Houshmandzadeh, Rudi Johnson, Shayne Graham, Geno Atkins, Andy Dalton, A J Green, Are you trying to make the point that Marvin Lewis actually had great talent but couldnt get it done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, flgreen said: Boomer, Chad Ochocinco, Corey Dillon , Willie Anderson, Carson Palmer, T J Houshmandzadeh, Rudi Johnson, Shayne Graham, Geno Atkins, Andy Dalton, A J Green, thats like me saying why cant the jets win the super bowl. they have such great players: testaverde, gastineua, chrebet, becton, lyons.....you get my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Lewis would be an awful awful choice. He is todd bowles version 2 as far as player character and accountability never won an important game. Recent performance as a lacky for Herm. People we can do better, a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 On 12/26/2020 at 4:47 PM, Jetsfan80 said: Yet it 110 % exists in the NBA, and the GM's themselves have admitted as much. A supposedly professional organization where teams openly tank to benefit their program for the future. If the system is set up to where tanking actually works, then perhaps NFL teams need to get with the program and do it too. Our own GM himself seems to acknowledge this might be a 1-QB draft, but doesn't take the steps necessary to get him with just 3 weeks left in the season? Makes absolutely no sense. In case you forgot, the NBA fields teams of 5 players, the impact is a whole lot different than one of 22 starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Joe Jets fan said: There is only one coach who Lewis would be the DC for. Cowher Not from what I heard, I wish though. I don’t expect Cowher to come back :/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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