Jet Nut Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, flgreen said: Boomer, Chad Ochocinco, Corey Dillon , Willie Anderson, Carson Palmer, T J Houshmandzadeh, Rudi Johnson, Shayne Graham, Geno Atkins, Andy Dalton, A J Green, Yeah, spread them out over 16 season, hardly the Chiefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: Not from what I heard, I wish though. I don’t expect Cowher to come back :/. That was my best guess. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, Beerfish said: Lewis would be an awful awful choice. He is todd bowles version 2 as far as player character and accountability never won an important game. Recent performance as a lacky for Herm. People we can do better, a lot better. we can. but being realistic and judging by records you cant knock a guy like lewis that has a body of work. A bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. We can get a guy like.....ohhhhh let me see........just at random the dude named wink from the ravens with zero head coaching experience that winds up wasting 4 years of our lives with 6-10 7-9 6-10 8-8 years and end up with less than .518 win percentage that Lewsi already established. It about risk and reward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, HighPitch said: thats BS you are calling out names of all their good players, but thats over more than a decade. those guys were not all on the same team at the same time This was the question, I answered it " who the heck was on the bengals? Boomer? the defensive end guy? cant remember anyone else" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, HighPitch said: wow in 2005 marvin lost his playoff game. but to the steelers. who won the super bowl that year? take a wild guess It also took the absolute worst cheap shot on a QB I have ever seen for the Steelers to win that game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, flgreen said: This was the question, I answered it " who the heck was on the bengals? Boomer? the defensive end guy? cant remember anyone else" yea man I meant on any given year. one team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, Mogglez said: It also took the absolute worst cheap shot on a QB I have ever seen for the Steelers to win that game. you have excellent memory. Ill bet you dont smoke the weeds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, HighPitch said: yea man I meant on any given year. one team lol You brought up Boomer, that was a bit ago. Why are you so upset that you had to quote the same post 4 times? lol You asked who was on his teams right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Jets fans talking themselves into Marvin Lews again. Hate to see it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: It also took the absolute worst cheap shot on a QB I have ever seen for the Steelers to win that game. That was the guy who became a Jet right Kemo Von Olehoffen ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, bitonti said: Prime Whitworth and uninjured Andre Smith Sewell and Becton, the prequel Yep, and we already have the not-so-great ginger QB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, HighPitch said: you have excellent memory. Ill bet you dont smoke the weeds 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: That was the guy who became a Jet right Kemo Von Olehoffen ? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, HighPitch said: we can. but being realistic and judging by records you cant knock a guy like lewis that has a body of work. A bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. We can get a guy like.....ohhhhh let me see........just at random the dude named wink from the ravens with zero head coaching experience that winds up wasting 4 years of our lives with 6-10 7-9 6-10 8-8 years and end up with less than .518 win percentage that Lewsi already established. It about risk and reward. I would rather risk than settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, jgb said: Darnold would be a terrible backup. Backup QBs are only relevant when a team is one that can contend. A backup's job is to limit mistakes and keep the team in position to win. Darnold is a turnover machine. Yep. He's a QB3. And many teams only carry 2 QB's.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, HighPitch said: you have excellent memory. Ill bet you dont smoke the weeds Everyone remembers that... because the Jets then signed the guy who did it! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yep. He's a QB3. And many teams only carry 2 QB's.... Prop bet: Baker Mayfield has already won more games than Darnold will for his entire career. With even money, which side do you take? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Jets fans talking themselves into Marvin Lews again. Hate to see it. Cmon. Totally worth it if he brings in Rex as DC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 marvin did keep them competitive for half a dozen years straight and never really hit the skids since. i cringe at some of the characters they tolerated, but maybe with JD as gm, that can be controlled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, jago said: marvin did keep them competitive for half a dozen years straight and never really hit the skids since. i cringe at some of the characters they tolerated, but maybe with JD as gm, that can be controlled. This is why I was so surprised to hear they interviewed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, jago said: marvin did keep them competitive for half a dozen years straight and never really hit the skids since. i cringe at some of the characters they tolerated, but maybe with JD as gm, that can be controlled. Man those Bengals were loaded while they were winning games in the mid 2000's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Man those Bengals were loaded while they were winning games in the mid 2000's. Why do we not like Lewis as HC again? Because he lost in the playoffs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, flgreen said: lol You brought up Boomer, that was a bit ago. Why are you so upset that you had to quote the same post 4 times? lol You asked who was on his teams right? Not upset just thought of things at different times. Its one of them typing things where you cant see a persons face and you think it was done in anger but it wasnt no worries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: I would rather risk than settle. Fair enough. Me? Never a gambler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Why do we not like Lewis as HC again? Because he lost in the playoffs? We Jets fans remind me of the movie Shallow Hal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Mogglez said: Not to attack my own post lol, but I want to greatly stress that anything QB/draft related is soooooo far from being settled. Maybe I didn’t do a great job of initially expressing that. I wouldn’t say they think lowly of those two, I’d say it’s more indicative of what they still think of Sam. That being said, my OP was written in December and a lot has changed since then (Sam closing out the year very poorly, Wilson and Fields lighting it up, etc.) There’s so much that can still happen. The head coach will have a heavy influence on that decision. i understand, there's no way anyone there can really know what's going to happen since they haven't even hired a coach yet. In concept, trading back seems great because more quality picks are good. In reality the Jets need impact players on offense to get back into the nfl. If they're not taking fields or wilson, are they trading back and taking wrs? is a top rb in the picture? if KC is the model for how to build an offense, you want a quick thinking qb with speed at wr/te/rb. darnold isn't quick thinking. they have some speed at wr. no rbs, basically no te. i doubt many here would be happy if they traded back and took a wr and kept darnold and basically said a few hail marys that he suddenly becomes the player we thought we drafted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Why do we not like Lewis as HC again? Because he lost in the playoffs? The last time we discussed this, Matt stated that he doesn’t want: - A coordinator. - A guy with no previous head coaching experience. Oh but Matt does want Urban Meyer, a guy who runs a completely gimmicky offense and who has never coached in the NFL in any capacity. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe Jets fan said: There is only one coach who Lewis would be the DC for. Cowher I think he's talking about Martindale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: i understand, there's no way anyone there can really know what's going to happen since they haven't even hired a coach yet. In concept, trading back seems great because more quality picks are good. In reality the Jets need impact players on offense to get back into the nfl. If they're not taking fields or wilson, are they trading back and taking wrs? is a top rb in the picture? if KC is the model for how to build an offense, you want a quick thinking qb with speed at wr/te/rb. darnold isn't quick thinking. they have some speed at wr. no rbs, basically no te. i doubt many here would be happy if they traded back and took a wr and kept darnold and basically said a few hail marys that he suddenly becomes the player we thought we drafted. I’d say the latter part of your post is most likely if they don’t go QB at 2 and decide to trade down. The only thing I don’t see likely, as of today, is spending high capital, whether it’s money or draft picks, on RB. WR and a dynamic TE (Pitts plz)? Totally in play. I know that’s not popular lol (I want a QB), but that’s what I’ve heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, HighPitch said: in 2015 marvin went 12-4 and won his division with these players: 2015 Cincinnati Bengals final roster Quarterbacks 14 Andy Dalton 5 AJ McCarron 3 Keith Wenning Running backs 25 Giovani Bernard 33 Rex Burkhead 32 Jeremy Hill 30 Cedric Peerman Wide receivers 15 Mario Alford 18 A. J. Green 82 Marvin Jones 12 Mohamed Sanu 19 Brandon Tate Tight ends 85 Tyler Eifert 44 Jake Fisher 89 Ryan Hewitt 81 Tyler Kroft 87 C.J. Uzomah Offensive linemen 61 Russell Bodine C 65 Clint Boling G 60 T. J. Johnson C 70 Cedric Ogbuehi T 71 Andre Smith T 77 Andrew Whitworth T 73 Eric Winston T 68 Kevin Zeitler G Defensive linemen 97 Geno Atkins DT 93 Will Clarke DE 96 Carlos Dunlap DE 95 Wallace Gilberry DE 91 Marcus Hardison DT 99 Margus Hunt DE 90 Michael Johnson DE 94 Domata Peko DT 92 Pat Sims DT 98 Brandon Thompson DT Linebackers 55 Vontaze Burfict OLB 47 Paul Dawson OLB 50 A. J. Hawk OLB 59 Emmanuel Lamur OLB 58 Rey Maualuga MLB 57 Vincent Rey MLB Defensive backs 29 Leon Hall CB 43 George Iloka SS 24 Adam Jones CB 27 Dre Kirkpatrick CB 37 Chris Lewis-Harris CB 20 Reggie Nelson FS 26 Josh Shaw CB 40 Derron Smith SS 36 Shawn Williams FS Special teams 46 Clark Harris LS 10 Kevin Huber P 2 Mike Nugent K I'm confused -- this is supposed to be a bad roster? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 43 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Why do we not like Lewis as HC again? Because he lost in the playoffs? His teams were loaded with character issues for years, he lost in the playoffs, he has not been in coordinator or hc in college for a few years. Now all candidates have questions, Lewis has connections and experience. I simply think there are other guys out there I would rather have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: I'm confused -- this is supposed to be a bad roster? Loaded like the Jets squad that dragged Mark to the playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I’d say the latter part of your post is most likely if they don’t go QB at 2 and decided to trade down. The only thing I don’t see likely, as of today, is spending high capital, whether it’s money or draft picks, on RB. WR and a dynamic TE (Pitts plz)? Totally in play. is the offense better with pitts and darnold or a new qb and weapons that can be acquired in FA, with seattle's 1st rounder and the rest of their picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I’d say the latter part of your post is most likely if they don’t go QB at 2 and decided to trade down. The only thing I don’t see likely, as of today, is spending high capital, whether it’s money or draft picks, on RB. WR and a dynamic TE (Pitts plz)? Totally in play. Any indication from your contact that Morgan is gonna get a shot to be the guy next year, especially if they trade down and pass on any of the top guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: is the offense better with pitts and darnold or a new qb and weapons that can be acquired in FA, with seattle's 1st rounder and the rest of their picks? I’ve got my own opinion on that, but I cannot answer with total certainty what JD and his top head coaching candidates think as of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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