Jetsbb Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawkeyeJet Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 Simply from a tools stand point I don't see how anyone could really say otherwise. The ultimate difference between the two is perceived intangibles and mental capacity for the position. I don't know how anyone can be certain anyone is generational on those last 2 aspects. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sec101row23 Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 The term generational must have changed meanings in the last few years because it clearly doesn’t mean what it used to. 25 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wonderboy Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 I don’t see much difference between Trent Dilfer and Sam Darnold. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Strange. It's almost like I've heard this before somewhere once or twice. I'm not sure where but I swear I've heard a very similar take. hhmmmmmmm I wonder if Trent has heard about Zach Wilson? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Lawrence Fields or Wilson Do it JD. I’d be good with either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Just now, JiF said: Strange. It's almost like I've heard this before somewhere once or twice. I'm not sure where but I swear I've heard a very similar take. hhmmmmmmm I wonder if Trent has heard about Zach Wilson? In another few weeks we will have 3 “generational” QBs in the same draft. Historic I tell ya! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, sec101row23 said: In another few weeks we will have 3 “generational” QBs in the same draft. Historic I tell ya! I can hear the takes now; if you were to do a blind taste test of the QB's in this draft, they'd all taste exactly the same and you couldnt tell the QB's apart. 3 teams are very lucky, their future is about to be called to the podium (virtual or not), the league just got so much better with these 3 generational talent all entering the league at the same time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 **** Trent Dilfer! What would he know about even being a decent qb? The 2000 Ravens defense won that Championship. He was dog sh*t- therefore his opinion means nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I'm going to hold off judgement on Fields until I see what he does in the playoffs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, JiF said: Strange. It's almost like I've heard this before somewhere once or twice. I'm not sure where but I swear I've heard a very similar take. hhmmmmmmm I wonder if Trent has heard about Zach Wilson? A couple of us have. I had to, my son was on the ledge, close to the edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 8:11 AM, Gibby said: **** Trent Dilfer! What would he know about even being a decent qb? The 2000 Ravens defense won that Championship. He was dog sh*t- therefore his opinion means nothing. Which means he doesnt know anything about playing the position? Because only QBs that carried their teams to SBs and won them can evaluate the position? ? 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 at this point it's all up to douglas to make the right decision. i don't want a running qb. they need to have good ability to avoid the pass rush and throw on the run but a guy who wants to take off running on every play isn't going to work. fields might be the right guy. the jets could play him much like the doltfins did with tua. bring him in after 6 or so games. but that could work with any qb they select. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, freestater said: I'm going to hold off judgement on Fields until I see what he does in the playoffs. COWARD!!!!! SAY IT NOW!!!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Trent Dilfer? How is his opinion relevant? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Fields is flat out garbage much less generational. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, JiF said: I can hear the takes now; if you were to do a blind taste test of the QB's in this draft, they'd all taste exactly the same and you couldnt tell the QB's apart. 3 teams are very lucky, their future is about to be called to the podium (virtual or not), the league just got so much better with these 3 generational talent all entering the league at the same time. It’s going to be so nauseating for the next 6 months. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Trent Dilfer doesn’t know ****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: I don’t see much difference between Trent Dilfer and Sam Darnold. I'll gladly accept a Trent Dilfer type Super Bowl win with Sam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I used to like Dilfer, but he’s become goofier and goofier over the last few years. The only prospects in this draft that deserve a “generational” label are Lawrence and Sewell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I'll gladly accept a Trent Dilfer type Super Bowl win with Sam. They both suck equally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 48 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Simply from a tools stand point I don't see how anyone could really say otherwise. The ultimate difference between the two is perceived intangibles and mental capacity for the position. I don't know how anyone can be certain anyone is generational on those last 2 aspects. Completely agree. I think when they say generational talent, thats kind of what it means - his physical ability is not something we see in every draft. Fields and Lawrence have size, arm, speed combinations that are pretty rare. Now, that doesnt mean fields can be a good NFL QB as the job is more cerebral then physical in the NFL which is why its so hard to project the position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: They both suck equally Like I said, I'll gladly accept a Trent Dilfer type Super Bowl win with Sam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 My biggest concern with fields is between the ears 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I'm not sure I buy this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Just now, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Like I said, I'll gladly accept a Trent Dilfer type Super Bowl win with Sam. Saying it twice doesn't do much to further your point. Your obvious, predictable comment has been noted. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: The term generational must have changed meanings in the last few years because it clearly doesn’t mean what it used to. Definitely. There’s 1-2 generational talents every year. Similar to how the term “genius” is thrown around for coaches. Trust me, there are no geniuses associated with a game built around running into each other at full speed. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: The term generational must have changed meanings in the last few years because it clearly doesn’t mean what it used to. Thank you Marino, Manning were generational talents..... if we are talking about that we are talking about good QBs..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: It’s going to be so nauseating for the next 6 months. I'm really hoping for the "Fields flat out sucks" crowd, that we take him. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chijet Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 No doubt Fields is talented but this is likely Dilfer just trying to hype up his guy that he mentored during the elite 11 camp back in 2017 when Fields was in High School. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 Trent Dilfer once said Mark Sanchez was an “alpha male.” 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Trent Dilfer once said Mark Sanchez was an “alpha male.” Ah I remember his gushing about Sanchez like it was yesterday. “If Mark Sanchez, Tim Tebow, Matt Stafford etc were all in a car together, Mark would be the one DRIVING” such an alpha 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvj Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Butterfield said: Trent Dilfer? How is his opinion relevant? Whose opinion is relevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsbb said: Yeah, no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: The term generational must have changed meanings in the last few years because it clearly doesn’t mean what it used to. Right! In the famed 1986 draft class for all that they put on tape in college neither Marino nor Kelly were considered even close to generational. Only Elway checked all of the boxes. And by checking all of the boxes, to be a generational QB it means you have A+ talent/skill in every area of evaluation. Frankly, while Peyton Manning is often touted as generational now. He wasn’t when he was in the draft, with a fair number of scouts ranking Leaf higher. From what I’ve seen, there have only been 2 generational college QBs in my lifetime. Elway and Luck. Say what you want about Luck, but the fact is he checked all of the boxes in spades. Sadly, the Colts “Sammied” his career by putting him behind a crap O line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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