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3 hours ago, Kenny said:

Darnold may never look like the number 3 overall pick. Problem is the QBs available after Lawrence don’t look like a sure thing at number 2 overall. We have a huge talent deficit so starting fixing the o line, receivers, secondary  and pass rush this year and hope Darnold is at least a good to above average qb 

 

But if we draft a Fields or Wilson at number 2 with this bad team and they never amount to anything better than what Darnold is, we’ve wasted another 3-4 yrs trying to develop a mediocre QB on a bad team. 

I think it depends on whether or not Joe Douglas agrees with you on the QB's after Trevor Lawrence. He might love Fields, or Lance, or Wilson, etc. We don't know.

If he likes another QB in this draft not named Trevor, he has to take him at 2 in my opinion. 

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I'm not saying it's the right or wrong move, but it is becoming clear that there is a real divide between how this board views that potential move versus those outside this board.

I like their suggestions. Allen Robinson plus Zach Ertz and a nasty guard would be great. Then draft Sewell or trade back and draft another OT. Wed still have enough draft capital to grab another

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On 12/27/2020 at 9:12 AM, Barry McCockinner said:

There will be QB's in every draft. Why throw another rookie onto a team that isn't built soundly? It's not even about Darnold. If we get lucky and he turns it around that's just a bonus.

There will?

Hasn't been my experience, but OK.  

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On 12/27/2020 at 9:44 AM, C Mart said:

Why is it all we read here is that Gase is the worst ever HC/OC yet those same people want to run the QB out?  Especially considering the QB looked a helluva lot better the 2nd half of his rookie year then the past 2 yrs. 

Why does the QB looked damn good the first series of each game to then regress as the game goes on?  Yes, he deserves some blame but why does this happen practically each game the past 2 yrs? 

Because its not an either/or.  It's both.  You don't end up with the # 2 pick without having bad QB play.  

Both Gase and Darnold suck.  Who sucks worse is irrelevant.  They're both awful at their jobs. 

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On 12/26/2020 at 9:19 PM, Icer said:

I'm sure the best head coach candidates are lining up to fix Sam Darnold in Year 4. Can't wait

He doesn't need to be fixed. The coaching does. The receivers, the guards do though. Cowher also said yesterday they need to bring Sam back, and pick up his option.

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5 minutes ago, genot said:

He doesn't need to be fixed. The coaching does. The receivers, the guards do though. Cowher also said yesterday they need to bring Sam back, and pick up his option.

Yeah go ahead pay Sam $25M for 2022. It’s like some of you have no idea how sports or economics works lol 

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On 12/27/2020 at 11:33 AM, Sperm Edwards said:

Let's see...

  1. traded for Patrick Ramsey
  2. drafted Kellen Clemens
  3. drafted Erik Ainge
  4. traded for 39 yr old Brett Favre who didn't want to be here (and still arguably his best QB transaction) 
  5. drafted Mark Sanchez
  6. signed 40 yr old Mark Brunell to be a rostered QBC, ensuring Sanchez couldn't get benched
  7. gave Mark Sanchez an extension
  8. traded for Tim Tebow
  9. signed Drew Stanton, and then (still in March) traded him like a week later
  10. drafted Greg McElroy

So yes, we should seriously listen to this man's QB advice.

Theres a guy on the corner giving out advice too...

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On 12/27/2020 at 11:33 AM, Sperm Edwards said:

Let's see...

  1. traded for Patrick Ramsey
  2. drafted Kellen Clemens
  3. drafted Erik Ainge
  4. traded for 39 yr old Brett Favre who didn't want to be here (and still arguably his best QB transaction) 
  5. drafted Mark Sanchez
  6. signed 40 yr old Mark Brunell to be a rostered QBC, ensuring Sanchez couldn't get benched
  7. gave Mark Sanchez an extension
  8. traded for Tim Tebow
  9. signed Drew Stanton, and then (still in March) traded him like a week later
  10. drafted Greg McElroy

So yes, we should seriously listen to this man's QB advice.

The best part about all of these is that you can go back and find tons of posts from the early days of the Haute Take Boiz telling all of us about how all these moves were awesome when they happened. 

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9 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

The best part about all of these is that you can go back and find tons of posts from the early days of the Haute Take Boiz telling all of us about how all these moves were awesome when they happened. 

C'mon these FO guys are the professionals. If you know so much how come the Jets haven't hired you instead, smart guy?

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14 hours ago, jgb said:

We have spent the last 3 years kicking Macc’s ass for foregoing QBs when we didn’t have a FQB. Now we want JD to try the same old strategy? Seriously? This is one of those too-clever-by-half takes.

This board sometimes is excruciating. And then when you point these things out, you’re labeled a malcontent. 

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On 12/26/2020 at 9:25 PM, pdxgreen said:

I envy Mike Tannenbaum.  Imagine having the emotional security of knowing that you were replaced by the likes of John Idzik & Mike Maccagnan.  That's enough validation that you could retire early and feel good about what you've accomplished in life.

His firing is what started the mess we are currently in.  I defend woody all the time but that was his worst move.  He never should have been fired.

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On 12/27/2020 at 2:33 PM, Sperm Edwards said:

Let's see...

  1. traded for Patrick Ramsey
  2. drafted Kellen Clemens
  3. drafted Erik Ainge
  4. traded for 39 yr old Brett Favre who didn't want to be here (and still arguably his best QB transaction) 
  5. drafted Mark Sanchez
  6. signed 40 yr old Mark Brunell to be a rostered QBC, ensuring Sanchez couldn't get benched
  7. gave Mark Sanchez an extension
  8. traded for Tim Tebow
  9. signed Drew Stanton, and then (still in March) traded him like a week later
  10. drafted Greg McElroy

So yes, we should seriously listen to this man's QB advice.

He also built legitimate Super Bowl contenders, multiple at that but in typical Jet fan fashion we crap on him.  This is why we deserve to keep losing.

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1 hour ago, Wonderboy said:

This board sometimes is excruciating. And then when you point these things out, you’re labeled a malcontent. 

All together now: sometimes being right just has to be its own reward.

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