slimjasi Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, PS17 said: Fields or Wilson, I don’t care; that’ll sort itself out before April. Just get rid of Darnold. I cannot watch him anymore, he’s that bad. Yep, agreed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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56mehl56 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, flgreen said: You want to put up the TL tape against LSU last year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I'm pretty sure Sewell would kick both their asses. At the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: You want to put up the TL tape against LSU last year ? Was his team down 22 players including his best WR and multiple OLmen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DJF71 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 hours ago, maury77 said: I think Lawrence is the better prospect, but I also significantly prefer Fields to Wilson. If the Jets do indeed hire Martindale from Baltimore, I’d have to think he would be intrigued by selecting Fields after seeing what Lamar Jackson has done for Baltimore. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk To me Fields is probably a better passer than Lamar, but not as good of a runner. He is bigger though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: You want to put up the TL tape against LSU last year ? Why? Just putting up the most recent games these guys have played 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 To me Fields is probably a better passer than Lamar, but not as good of a runner. He is bigger though.Agreed on both.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: That Indiana tape is virtually the only Fields stuff I've watched, and from that he looks like a "tools" guy but a poor decision-maker. But I'm sure it's not fair to judge a guy based on his worst game, or one of them. he looked bad vs Indiana and worse vs NW it will be very interesting to see how he performs against the best CFB defense in the country if he balls out against Clemson, shoot i'd become a believer he is a rare athlete something I've bashed Sam for not being but the more worrying aspect is the time he holds the ball it's not 2.5 seconds more like double that 3 out of his 5 starters are NFL draft picks he's not going to have that time in the AFC east or wherever 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, DJF71 said: To me Fields is probably a better passer than Lamar, but not as good of a runner. He is bigger though. Lamar Jackson's passing was hugely underrated when he was a prospect and remains underrated to this day he puts his foot in the ground and slings it, quick release Fields has slow decision making and ponderous release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Did you guys watch Lawrence vs VT? Should have thrown three terrible picks He played well vs ND but he did have a terrible INT to a LB TL ain’t perfect, he’s a one read RPO QB just like fields. It seems like half of TLs game is running the ball- which ain’t happening in the NFL I would take TL over fields, but Fields is intriguing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, bitonti said: Lamar Jackson's passing was hugely underrated when he was a prospect and remains underrated to this day he puts his foot in the ground and slings it, quick release Fields has slow decision making and ponderous release He is fine as long as he can throw down the middle. Outside the numbers he struggles badly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, DJF71 said: He is fine as long as he can throw down the middle. Outside the numbers he struggles badly. that's probably an accurate assessment he's still getting it out quickly or running Fields burps the baby like Geno or late stage Sanchez he's an amazing athlete but it's one of those fatal flaws im not sure can be coached out of a player 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 He is fine as long as he can throw down the middle. Outside the numbers he struggles badly.Agreed re Jackson. Fields OTOH, routinely hits the far sideline on his passes.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Haven’t really looked at him yet... but the indy game highlights would def make me NOT take him!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I am so excited for the CFP...I hope Fields does really well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I'm still a big believer in Fields. If Joe likes him enough to take him at 2, I'll fully support it. My dream is to trade down slightly with someone who wants Sewell and still get him, but that's risky. If the Jets believe he's a potential franchise QB, they should take him at 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Really looking forward to the Clemson-OSU game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Everything about him is off. His pocket presence, his mechanics. The arm talent is a myth, his passes sail on him with nearly every sideline throw. So many throws that cannot happen in the NFL. He has some ability and his running skills could be deadly with the right coaching but it’s genuinely unbelievable that this is a #2 prospect. He’s a guy you maybe take a flyer on late in the 1st. I think we’re going to take him or Wilson so I’ve made my piece with it. But I’m not a fan of either and to compare them to Lawrence is honestly quite laughable, as most objective observers would agree. If we got him I wouldn’t be against sitting him for a season because there’s a lot he needs work on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, 56mehl56 said: You want to put up the TL tape against LSU last year ? You’re really comparing that LSU defence to Northwestern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Everything about him is off. His pocket presence, his mechanics. The arm talent is a myth, his passes sail on him with nearly every sideline throw. So many throws that cannot happen in the NFL. He has some ability and his running skills could be deadly with the right coaching but it’s genuinely unbelievable that this is a #2 prospect. He’s a guy you maybe take a flyer on late in the 1st. I think we’re going to take him or Wilson so I’ve made my piece with it. But I’m not a fan of either and to compare them to Lawrence is honestly quite laughable, as most objective observers would agree. If we got him I wouldn’t be against sitting him for a season because there’s a lot he needs work on. Couldn’t disagree more. There are like perfect 5 sidelines throws in the Northwestern game alone (which is supposed to be his worst game). His throwing mechanics are textbook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, flgreen said: Just watched that video again and came out impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, bitonti said: he looked bad vs Indiana and worse vs NW it will be very interesting to see how he performs against the best CFB defense in the country if he balls out against Clemson, shoot i'd become a believer he is a rare athlete something I've bashed Sam for not being but the more worrying aspect is the time he holds the ball it's not 2.5 seconds more like double that 3 out of his 5 starters are NFL draft picks he's not going to have that time in the AFC east or wherever Watson held the ball in college and still does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, oatmeal said: Watson held the ball in college and still does Same with Russell Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 hours ago, QB1 said: Man the more I look into this kid we may be criminally underrating him From a pure athlete perspective he is incredible. Built like a tank, runs 4.4, cannon for an arm. He is the kind of pure talent that is usually reserved for the #1 pick. He is a very accurate passer, impossible to bring down, fantastic runner. Has a better Passing rating, QBR and PFF rating than TL. He is so calm in the pocket that he can give the impression of playing slow, but I don’t think he is. He holds the ball a lot because he can, he is so good at making guys miss, reminds me of a Russell Wilson or Josh Allen hybrid. Watch his worst game vs Indiana. He throws a couple of terrible picks but still hangs in there and delivers strike after strike and really shows off his running ability. Compare this to Lawrence vs VT a couple of weeks ago. I think this was just as bad of a game by Lawrence, he just got lucky that a couple of would be picks were dropped. These guys have been tied at the hip since high school. As high school prospects they were both historically highly rated. Fields outplayed TL at the elite 11 camp. Since coming to college Fields has been better statistically. These guys are so similar. Both are mostly 1 read QBs right now. They both highly depend on running the football. As a pure runner and thrower I think Fields is objectively better. In fact I find the amount of running that Lawrence does to be a little off putting considering he isn’t that incredible of an athlete. The game this Friday is HUGE. If fields out plays Trevor I think he is the slam dunk #2 pick and should probably be so regardless. If Douglas falls in love with this kid and we pair him with a Daboll or Roman we could have something special. Lawrence is light years ahead of Fields and this is not even up for debate. If we don't get Lawrence I say keep Darnold at this point. Justin Fields is NOT the answer, at ALL. The end! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Watson held the ball in college and still does 1 minute ago, QB1 said: Same with Russell Wilson Watson 12 overall Wilson 3rd round this player Fields has value it's just not 2 overall value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: He has some ability and his running skills could be deadly with the right coaching but it’s genuinely unbelievable that this is a #2 prospect. He’s a guy you maybe take a flyer on late in the 1st. quoted for truth it's still December by the way guys value change a ton between now and Draft maybe the Jets sit tight and wait for a fields/wilson/trask fall at that 2nd 1st rd pick or even top of rd 2 I'd be more willing to believe the Pass rusher from Miami, the Michigan OT or WR from LSU/Bama as being blue chip players worthy of a top 5 than either of these QB the QB need is real and guys get pushed up but also guys saying Ryan Nassib is a 1st rd pick after the Pinstripe bowl and by April he's a 4th rounder meanwhile what will Sewell's value be when he's spent a year in IMG academy and shows up 350 or whatever and jacked running a 4.8 or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: Watson 12 overall Wilson 3rd round this player Fields has value it's just not 2 overall value The only reason Wilson wasn’t a top 3 pick was because he is 5”10 Watsons has below average measure arm strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, bitonti said: quoted for truth it's still December by the way guys value change a ton between now and Draft maybe the Jets sit tight and wait for a fields/wilson/trask fall at that 2nd 1st rd pick or even top of rd 2 I'd be more willing to believe the Pass rusher from Miami, the Michigan OT or WR from LSU/Bama as being blue chip players worthy of a top 5 than either of these QB the QB need is real and guys get pushed up but also guys saying Ryan Nassib is a 1st rd pick after the Pinstripe bowl and by April he's a 4th rounder meanwhile what with Sewell's value be when he's spent a year in IMG academy and shows up 350 or whatever and jacked I think you are talking about Zach Wilson. Justin Fields was 1a to Trevor Lawrence coming out of high school. Then proceeded to dominate in college putting up better passing numbers than TL. He has elite physical attributes in away that you measure them. He is the exact type of player that goes in the top of the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, QB1 said: The only reason Wilson wasn’t a top 3 pick was because he is 5”10 Watsons has below average measure arm strength im not disagreeing or going back in time on these guys just saying a 2 pick has to be special these guys are obviously flawed and so are the 2 QBs after Trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, RJIII said: Lawrence is light years ahead of Fields and this is not even up for debate. If we don't get Lawrence I say keep Darnold at this point. Justin Fields is NOT the answer, at ALL. The end! Light years ahead in terms of what? Fields has put up better numbers the last 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, bitonti said: im not disagreeing or going back in time on these guys just saying a 2 pick has to be special these guys are obviously flawed and so are the 2 QBs after Trevor 100% agree that the #2 pick has to be special Justin Fields has been special forever he was one of the most hyped high school athletes ever right with Trevor Lawrence He outplayed Trevor in the elite 11 camp He has outplayed Trevor in college He is built like a tank, has 4.4 speed, a cannon and is extremely accurate not sure what more anyone could want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, flgreen said: Why? Just putting up the most recent games these guys have played So only the most recent games matter. The Jets are 2-0 and steaming ahead to the SB I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, QB1 said: I think you are talking about Zach Wilson. Justin Fields was 1a to Trevor Lawrence coming out of high school. Then proceeded to dominate in college putting up better passing numbers than TL. He has elite physical attributes in away that you measure them. He is the exact type of player that goes in the top of the draft. Justin Fields transferred from Georgia let's start there he was the number whatever prospect out of high school and couldn't get passed Jake Fromm was it? he does have elite physical attributes I am concerned by how he plays against legit defenses this game vs Clemson is a HUGE test let it be known I have eaten crow before if Fields goes out and balls like crazy vs the best D in the nation, with everyone sitting home watching, I can see a Vince Young like rise to the top of the draft. It's feasible he's worth 2 if however he looks like he did vs Indiana and Northwestern, it's fair to wonder if he can make the leap to beating pro defenses 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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