Popular Post Rhg1084 4,659 Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 I keep seeing all these scenarios all over the place on the Jets strategy. For me it’s very simple. Draft Zach Wilson 7 5 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Untouchable 14,660 Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 You think it’s that easy? LOL We’re going to be listening to the Fields vs Wilson vs Keep Darnold sh*t for months. 8 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Patriot Killa 22,396 Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 #2 pick - Zach Wilson #27 pick - Najee Harris/Travis Etienne FA’s - Allen Robinson/JuJu 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oatmeal 715 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 No ty with those shoulders maybe atl of car can get 5 years or more out of him(if they get lucky) but I wouldn’t risk it, I can see one bad hit crunching him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BleedinGreenNC 4,136 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: #2 pick - Zach Wilson #27 pick - Najee Harris/Travis Etienne FA’s - Allen Robinson/JuJu Great minds think alike! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patriot Killa 22,396 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, oatmeal said: No ty with those shoulders maybe atl of car can get 5 years or more out of him(if they get lucky) but I wouldn’t risk it, I can see one bad hit crunching him ATL will take Wilson and he will go on to have a 13 year long career and JD will have to answer for it because he ignored his arm talent/traits over something that barely makes sense like his frame. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
genot 2,103 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Untouchable said: You think it’s that easy? LOL We’re going to be listening to the Fields vs Wilson vs Keep Darnold sh*t for months. From here and the media. Douglas already knows what he's going to do. Zack Wilson. Please. A toothpick with an odd throwing motion that's already led to one shoulder surgery. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morrissey 13,038 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, Untouchable said: You think it’s that easy? LOL We’re going to be listening to the Fields vs Wilson vs Keep Darnold sh*t for months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oatmeal 715 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: ATL will take Wilson and he will go on to have a 13 year long career and JD will have to answer for it because he ignored his arm talent/traits over something that barely makes sense like his frame. It makes sense because this is a contact sport, and having a small frame and barely weighing 200lbs isn’t a good combination when you have massive powerful men tackling and falling down on you. It leads to injuries, something that should never be overlooked in the game of football, especially considering the QB in question had surgery on both shoulders. Can’t believe I had to really explain this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScarletKnight89 3,521 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I keep going back and forth between Wilson, Lance, and Fields based on what article I've read last haha. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevinc855 2,779 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Yea what the heck!! Just take a boom or bust prospect but we got a feeling... WHY NOT!! I mean whats to lose!! lol Thank god fans arent GMs 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetlife33 4,743 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: #2 pick - Zach Wilson #27 pick - Najee Harris/Travis Etienne FA’s - Allen Robinson/JuJu I really want Etienne with our 2nd 1st rounder. I'm usually not for drafting RB's that early, but man we need somebody in the backfield worth a damn. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan1986 124 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I’m behind whatever JD decides. My main issue with Wilson is that he really hadn’t gone up against the big competition and I’m worried about his frame and being able to withstand the NFL physicality. I also ok with rolling with Sam because let’s face it he had had nothing around him for 3 years including an actual NFL coach. Either way I trust JD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pennington 366 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I keep seeing all these scenarios all over the place on the Jets strategy. For me it’s very simple. Draft Zach Wilson It’s the only move that can somewhat make up for missing out on Lawrence. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevinc855 2,779 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: #2 pick - Zach Wilson #27 pick - Najee Harris/Travis Etienne FA’s - Allen Robinson/JuJu When we addressing this we have no corners issue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
genot 2,103 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Is this the way it's going to be up until the draft. Does anybody have any Lithium they could spare? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheNuuFaaolaExperience 2,143 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I keep seeing all these scenarios all over the place on the Jets strategy. For me it’s very simple. Draft Zach Wilson I've seen many different arguments for Wilson, but I'm finally convinced. Wilson is the pick. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post freestater 12,341 Posted December 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2020 I'm going to trust the Jets' plan. I mean, they wouldn't do anything stupid, amirite? 1 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TuscanyTile2 12,927 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, genot said: Is this the way it's going to be up until the draft. Does anybody have any Lithium they could spare? 24 minutes ago, Morrissey said: Our Superbowl! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mackman55 432 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 39 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: #2 pick - Zach Wilson #27 pick - Najee Harris/Travis Etienne FA’s - Allen Robinson/JuJu I'm all in on this but no JuJu please! Robinson is a much better football player and not a head case. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Harper 3,876 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I think JD likes bigger guys. That's why I think he'll go Fields if he goes QB. I really don't know which one is better, though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 29,177 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Zach Wilson, BYU, 6'3", 210# Played mostly 2nd tier schools in the CUSA, American and SunBelt conferences. 73.4%, 3,699 Passing Yards, 33 TD, 3 INT. vs. Kyle Trask, Florida, 6'5", 240# Played in the SEC against all SEC schools. 69.7%, 4,125 Passing Yards, 43 TD's, 5 INT's Wilson will (likely) cost us the #2 overall pick to acquire. Trask will (likely) cost us our top 3rd Round Pick to acquire. Someone explain to me why Trask is not the better choice (for us) to Wilson. Because the idea of picking an elite O-lineman (at #2), a #1 WR (at #26) and a playmaking #1 RB (in the 2nd) THEN getting Trask appeals to me. What am I not seeing here? 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FidelioJet 8,103 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Yea what the heck!! Just take a boom or bust prospect but we got a feeling... WHY NOT!! I mean whats to lose!! lol Thank god fans arent GMs That is precisely what you do. well, you take the QB that has the best change to "Boom". Unless you like wallowing in mediocrity. I'm not sure what makes you call him Boom or Bust - he certainly has all the upside I've seen in a propsect. Where's the "bust"? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morrissey 13,038 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Warfish said: Zach Wilson, BYU, 6'3", 210# Played mostly 2nd tier schools in the CUSA, American and SunBelt conferences. 73.4%, 3,699 Passing Yards, 33 TD, 3 INT. vs. Kyle Trask, Florida, 6'5", 240# Played in the SEC against all SEC schools. 69.7%, 4,125 Passing Yards, 43 TD's, 5 INT's Wilson will (likely) cost us the #2 overall pick to acquire. Trask will (likely) cost us our top 3rd Round Pick to acquire. Someone explain to me why Trask is not the better choice (for us) to Wilson. Because the idea of picking an elite O-lineman (at #2), a #1 WR (at #26) and a playmaking #1 RB (in the 2nd) THEN getting Trask appeals to me. What am I not seeing here? Simple. Trask has a back-up skill set. Ignore the numbers, ignore the schools. Slow delivery, avg arm strength, not particularly mobile.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kelly 3,359 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: I keep seeing all these scenarios all over the place on the Jets strategy. For me it’s very simple. Draft Zach Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HessStation 28,578 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Untouchable said: You think it’s that easy? LOL We’re going to be listening to the Fields vs Wilson vs Keep Darnold sh*t for months. “The New Normal” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetPotato 3,772 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 If you're asking for Fields or Wilson at #2, I don't want to hear you whining about another wasted top pick 3 years from now. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 29,177 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Morrissey said: Simple. Trask has a back-up skill set. Ignore the numbers, ignore the schools. Slow delivery, avg arm strength, not particularly mobile.. LOL, why would I do that? That, IMO, is the best tool to evaluate a player. What they actually did. vs actual oppositions, not what people dream they could do. Wilson has played against very questionable competition. Will he be so great vs. elite NFL Defenses full of backup players better than any player he's ever played against? If Trask is so obviously bad, why I am reading that Pittsburgh might take a reach on him to eventually replace Big Ben? Or that the 49'ers really like him and make take him earlier then the 3rd to be their guy? From doing some reading, it seems Trask is very much a mental QB, not a pure physical skills QB. Would that be so bad? A pre-injury Chad Pennington, Kirk Cousins type? He can still make all the NFL throws (it seems), you don't have to be Brett Favre with a bazooka to win in the NFL. And frankly, I still like pocket passers who pass, instead of think run, and I like building elite O-lines to protect them. I guess we'll see, gonna be a very interesting Draft this year, no doubt about that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 42,706 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: LOL, why would I do that? That, IMO, is the best tool to evaluate a player. What they actually did. vs actual oppositions, not what people dream they could do. Wilson has played against very questionable competition. Will he be so great vs. elite NFL Defenses full of backup players better than any player he's ever played against? If Trask is so obviously bad, why I am reading that Pittsburgh might take a reach on him to eventually replace Big Ben? Or that the 49'ers really like him and make take him earlier then the 3rd to be their guy? From doing some reading, it seems Trask is very much a mental QB, not a pure physical skills QB. Would that be so bad? A pre-injury Chad Pennington, Kirk Cousins type? He can still make all the NFL throws (it seems), you don't have to be Brett Favre with a bazooka to win in the NFL. And frankly, I still like pocket passers who pass, instead of think run, and I like building elite O-lines to protect them. I guess we'll see, gonna be a very interesting Draft this year, no doubt about that. 5 minutes of both watching Trask and Wilson you can see the talent difference. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adoni Beast 4,131 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Daniel Jeremiah has been dropping hints and promoting Zach Wilson...all of this conveniently coming right after the Jets beat the Rams. Has barely said a word about Fields. I bet we are leaning towards Wilson. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patriot Killa 22,396 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, oatmeal said: It makes sense because this is a contact sport, and having a small frame and barely weighing 200lbs isn’t a good combination when you have massive powerful men tackling and falling down on you. It leads to injuries, something that should never be overlooked in the game of football, especially considering the QB in question had surgery on both shoulders. Can’t believe I had to really explain this Russell Wilson - 208 Bake Mayfield -207 Kyler Murray - 207 Lamar Jackson - 212 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 29,177 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: 5 minutes of both watching Trask and Wilson you can see the talent difference. I watched Wilson just the other day. He won big, against a team that looked laughably bad, but he didn't look special to me. /shrug. Seems Wilson is the new hype-target now that T.L. is gone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 42,706 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Warfish said: I watched Wilson just the other day. He won big, but he didn't look special to me. /shrug. I thought the same. But I was wondering the same about Trask. His numbers are super impressive. Watching him just doesnt connect. He looks like Brandon Weeden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhg1084 4,659 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, JetPotato said: If you're asking for Fields or Wilson at #2, I don't want to hear you whining about another wasted top pick 3 years from now. If Wilson is a bust after 3 years, then guess what? Yes you try again and draft another QB. I’m in the belief you keep drafting QBs until you find one. And we definitely haven’t found one as of now 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patriot Killa 22,396 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 37 minutes ago, Warfish said: Zach Wilson, BYU, 6'3", 210# Played mostly 2nd tier schools in the CUSA, American and SunBelt conferences. 73.4%, 3,699 Passing Yards, 33 TD, 3 INT. vs. Kyle Trask, Florida, 6'5", 240# Played in the SEC against all SEC schools. 69.7%, 4,125 Passing Yards, 43 TD's, 5 INT's Wilson will (likely) cost us the #2 overall pick to acquire. Trask will (likely) cost us our top 3rd Round Pick to acquire. Someone explain to me why Trask is not the better choice (for us) to Wilson. Because the idea of picking an elite O-lineman (at #2), a #1 WR (at #26) and a playmaking #1 RB (in the 2nd) THEN getting Trask appeals to me. What am I not seeing here? How many SEC QB’s come into the league and succeed? I’ll wait. Lamar Jackson, Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson came from the ACC Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield - Big 10 Patrick Mahomes - Texas Tech Josh Allen was a 53% passer in some Mountain conference. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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