My breakdown on Joe Brady and why he should be high up on our list

[bla bla bla]

- I said Connor McGovern played under him at Penn State, was the wrong Connor McGovern (oops)

- Chris Godwin played at Penn State with Brady there, perhaps he has an inside track in landing him via FA?

- Michael Thomas had his 2 best years with Brady on staff with the Saints.

- Joe Burrow couldn't beat out Dwayne Haskins at Ohio State, transferred to LSU in 2018.

 

Burrow before Brady 2018

58%  222 YPG  16 TD  5 INT

Burrow with Brady 2019

76%  378 YPG  60 TD  6 INT

 

- Panthers may be 5-10 but they were within 1 score in a bunch of losses including: Raiders, Bears, Saints, Falcons, Chiefs, Vikings, Broncos, & Packers

- Will be available to interview before most other candidates due to being eliminated from playoff contention (Titans, Bills, Ravens, & Chiefs all still in it)

 

[Boynton Beach Jets]

He is not my first choice.  I know its his first year but his offense ranks in the bottom third of the NFL  Tremendous year at LSU , but he did have Burrow  I like other guys more especially Dabol.  We should sell the house for him.

[jeremy2020]

ok, but what shampoo does he use?

[cant wait]

If we’re going with a young up and coming assistant, give me the guy who’s been coaching up Mahomes since he came into the league 

[WhartonJet]

Daboll is 1st on my list, followed by Brady.  In either case, I hope they get a seasoned defensive coordinator preferably with head coaching experience for the head coach to lean on.  That would also let Daboll or Brady focus on getting this offense to respectability

[Boynton Beach Jets]

5 minutes ago, cant wait said:

If we’re going with a young up and coming assistant, give me the guy who’s been coaching up Mahomes since he came into the league 

Mike Kafka is a good choice.  He is 4-5 on my coach hopeful list.  He is not that experienced a  coach.  I would prefer a guy who is more experienced and rounded as a coach.

[Greensleeves]

59 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

- I said Connor McGovern played under him at Penn State, was the wrong Connor McGovern (oops)

- Chris Godwin played at Penn State with Brady there, perhaps he has an inside track in landing him via FA?

- Michael Thomas had his 2 best years with Brady on staff with the Saints.

- Joe Burrow couldn't beat out Dwayne Haskins at Ohio State, transferred to LSU in 2018.

 

Burrow before Brady 2018

58%  222 YPG  16 TD  5 INT

Burrow with Brady 2019

76%  378 YPG  60 TD  6 INT

 

- Panthers may be 5-10 but they were within 1 score in a bunch of losses including: Raiders, Bears, Saints, Falcons, Chiefs, Vikings, Broncos, & Packers

- Will be available to interview before most other candidates due to being eliminated from playoff contention (Titans, Bills, Ravens, & Chiefs all still in it)

 

What has he done that makes you believe he can manage an NFL roster in all 3 phases? It’s like being a CEO of a major corporation- you need year’s of experience to develop the requisite skills. So much is not about x’s and 0s. So many of these guys should stick with their specialty. There are way more failed experiments than outliers. In NYC we need an experienced head coach that can put together a talented staff that he oversees and that can handle all the extra bs that the media dishes out.

[Jet_Engine1]

20 minutes ago, cant wait said:

If we’re going with a young up and coming assistant, give me the guy who’s been coaching up Mahomes since he came into the league 

Andy Reid is busy.

[football guy]

I think "specialist" coaches are best when hired by a team with a firm organizational structure and a built up program. For example, Mangini and Tannenbaum restructured the team from the front office all the way down to the practice squad; they made significant strides in building a program. Rex merely came in and pushed it over the finish line by lighting a fire with his bravado, and helped generate instant on-field success with his supreme defensive coaching. When it came time to rebrand and restructure the makeup of the roster, both he and Tannenbaum faltered, largely because they were both "specialists" and not talent evaluators, CEO types, or program builders. Our team hasn't recovered since.

Right now, I don't believe we're in a position to hire a specialist. We need a coach that is committed to building a program that will enable sustainable success, and usually the most effective program builders are "CEO" types - there isn't enough time in the day or bandwidth for a coach to do both albeit rare circumstances (Bill Belichick). 

I'm impressed with Brady's work, but I feel it comes down to his ability to be head coach. Sure bypassing him could be bypassing the next Sean McVay, but Jets shouldn't bite if they feel he'll need a similar staff structure that Gase did ("HC of the offense" + "HC of the defense"). If he shares an impressive vision/philosophy and is determined to be a head coach first and foremost, then why not. But fans need to keep in mind that for every Sean McVay, there's a Lane Kiffin. 

 

[peekskill68]

Good video.  Thanks.  Given how bad we've been for so long, I'm not sure a 31 year old newbie is the right flavor here.  I'm sorta in the camp of trying to bring in an experienced CEO type head coach to set the culture and have HIM bring in the 31 year old rocket scientists to run the O and D.  

[KRL]

If Brady is hired you would have to create a LAR
situation when they hired McVay.  You would need
a "gray hair" DC with former HC experience.  Pairing
Brady with Marvin Lewis as DC would be interesting

[Lupz27]

6 hours ago, cant wait said:

If we’re going with a young up and coming assistant, give me the guy who’s been coaching up Mahomes since he came into the league 

This is the one time nobody coached up a player.  This player coaches up coaches.

[FidelioJet]

Sure, why not?

You can pick one of these OC’s out of a hat.  They’re pretty much all the same at this point.

You have to get lucky to hit on one.  Really doesn’t matter.

[Jetster]

1 hour ago, KRL said:

If Brady is hired you would have to create a LAR
situation when they hired McVay.  You would need
a "gray hair" DC with former HC experience.  Pairing
Brady with Marvin Lewis as DC would be interesting

I think Mike Zimmer might be a goner? He's a better D coordinator than a Head Coach. Having cap issues ravaged the D side of the ball after signing Cousins, Cook & Thielen, they even had to trade Diggs. 

[JustInFudge]

Below is the resume of Joe Brady.  I've never seen a less decorated career receive Head Coaching consideration.  All in all, he has 4 total years of coaching experience.   I get he did an amazing thing at LSU with one of the most talented rosters ever assembled but what else has he done to deserve being a Head Coach of NFL team?  Sorry, I think I need a little more meat on the bone for the Jets.  This is wildly risky at wayyyyyy to important of a time in the franchise.

As coach:
William & Mary (2013–2014) Linebackers coach Penn State (2015–2016) Graduate assistant New Orleans Saints (2017–2018) Offensive assistant LSU (2019) Passing game coordinator & wide receivers coach Carolina Panthers (2020–present) Offensive coordinator

[Boynton Beach Jets]

50 minutes ago, JiF said:

Below is the resume of Joe Brady.  I've never seen a less decorated career receive Head Coaching consideration.  All in all, he has 4 total years of coaching experience.   I get he did an amazing thing at LSU with one of the most talented rosters ever assembled but what else has he done to deserve being a Head Coach of NFL team?  Sorry, I think I need a little more meat on the bone for the Jets.  This is wildly risky at wayyyyyy to important of a time in the franchise.

As coach:
William & Mary (2013–2014) Linebackers coach Penn State (2015–2016) Graduate assistant New Orleans Saints (2017–2018) Offensive assistant LSU (2019) Passing game coordinator & wide receivers coach Carolina Panthers (2020–present) Offensive coordinator

I agree 100%.  I get it follow the Rams blueprint, but you can't force it

[JustInFudge]

14 minutes ago, Boynton Beach Jets said:

I agree 100%.  I get it follow the Rams blueprint, but you can't force it

McVay had 10 years of experience prior to the Rams job.  I just dont know that you've seen enough, been in enough lockerroom to really understand how to run an NFL team with 4 years of experience.  He's barely had a cup of coffee in the NFL and he's ready to be a HC because he had a historic offense in college for 1 season?  Seems like a monster stretch and not one the Jets can afford.  

[jetophile]

Your "breakdown", I thought you meant you lost it. I said wait a second, it's not a Sunday. Coffee, where's the coffee.

[Stark]

10 hours ago, bla bla bla said:

- I said Connor McGovern played under him at Penn State, was the wrong Connor McGovern (oops)

- Chris Godwin played at Penn State with Brady there, perhaps he has an inside track in landing him via FA?

- Michael Thomas had his 2 best years with Brady on staff with the Saints.

- Joe Burrow couldn't beat out Dwayne Haskins at Ohio State, transferred to LSU in 2018.

 

Burrow before Brady 2018

58%  222 YPG  16 TD  5 INT

Burrow with Brady 2019

76%  378 YPG  60 TD  6 INT

 

- Panthers may be 5-10 but they were within 1 score in a bunch of losses including: Raiders, Bears, Saints, Falcons, Chiefs, Vikings, Broncos, & Packers

- Will be available to interview before most other candidates due to being eliminated from playoff contention (Titans, Bills, Ravens, & Chiefs all still in it)

 

I’d have no issue taking a shot at him. 

[Boynton Beach Jets]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

McVay had 10 years of experience prior to the Rams job.  I just dont know that you've seen enough, been in enough lockerroom to really understand how to run an NFL team with 4 years of experience.  He's barely had a cup of coffee in the NFL and he's ready to be a HC because he had a historic offense in college for 1 season?  Seems like a monster stretch and not one the Jets can afford.  

Yes we need a more experienced coach, that being said I want Dabol.  But we never get what we want with the Jets.  He has done wonders and is creative with the Bills offense.  He certainly has the experiance.

 

				Overall				Offense			Rushing Off					Passing Off
Year	Tm	Role	Tms	WL%	T/G	Pts±	Yds±	Yds	Pts	GvA	Att	Yds	TD	Y/A	FL	Att	Yds	TD	Int	NY/A
7 yrs				42	38	40	39	29	27	38	72	67	49	54	40	23	25	26	44	31
3 yrs	BUF	OC		70	54	56	68	43	42	41	71	66	55	49	55	36	42	40	47	45
2 yrs	CLE	OC		22	34	25	9	8	9	42	59	59	53	47	36	13	8	8	42	16
1 yr	KAN	OC		6	6	3	19	28	3	9	88	88	25	84	13	13	3	3	6	6
1 yr	MIA	OC		31	28	59	34	34	41	47	84	69	44	56	28	16	31	47	78	47
2009	CLE	OC	32	25	29	27	32	32	29	22	6	8	20	15	26	30	32	31	20	32
2010	CLE	OC	32	27	15	23	28	29	31	17	22	20	12	21	17	28	29	30	19	24
2011	MIA	OC	32	23	24	14	22	22	20	18	6	11	19	15	24	28	23	18	8	18
2012	KAN	OC	32	31	31	32	27	24	32	30	5	5	25	6	29	29	32	32	31	31
2018	BUF	OC	32	22	23	28	18	30	30	30	6	9	11	21	15	28	31	32	31	31
2019	BUF	OC	32	8	10	10	9	24	23	11	6	8	18	14	5	24	26	24	15	21
2020	BUF	OC	32	2	14	7	7	4	6	19	19	19	17	17	26	12	2	5	8	4

[Jet Nut]

10 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Andy Reid is busy.

Which is why I would bet that Bienemy spent more time working with Mahomes that the HC did

[bla bla bla]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

Which is why I would bet that Bienemy spent more time working with Mahomes that the HC did

I'd bet it was Kafka. I think there is a reason why Andy Reid was blocking people from interviewing him last year. Apparently that week 17 game back in 2017 (Mahomes first game) the rest of the coaching staff was told to focus on the playoffs and Kafka was tasked with game planning with Mahomes.

[choon328]

11 hours ago, cant wait said:

If we’re going with a young up and coming assistant, give me the guy who’s been coaching up Mahomes since he came into the league 

Mike Kafka?

[Jet Nut]

I'm a Daboll fan and have him as my first choice along with Campbell.  Unfortunately I think Campbell just might be one of those college guys who just doesnt want to coach in the NFL.  

I think you have to understand that if they go with someone not on the top of your preferred list you have to look at their pick and understand that you can make the case for just about any of the candidates.  Some here will argue incessantly that their top pick is so much better than yours, as if this is an exact science 

[Jet Nut]

12 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

I'd bet it was Kafka. I think there is a reason why Andy Reid was blocking people from interviewing him last year. Apparently that week 17 game back in 2017 (Mahomes first game) the rest of the coaching staff was told to focus on the playoffs and Kafka was tasked with game planning with Mahomes.

Could be Id assume both though.  I doubt the HC was intimately involved in coaching up a QB when he has all aspects of a team to oversee.  

[Larz]

2018 offensive assistant 

2019 passing game coordinator 

2020 OC

no ******* way do I touch this guy 

burrow had 7 seconds to throw at LSU

peter principal 1,0000000%

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

I love that he learned under Sean Payton in New Orleans, that's one of the main reasons Rhule was interested in him. 

He would need to bring in a veteran DC like McVay did with Wade Phillips.  But I think he stays in Carolina. 

[KRL]

With all of the college concepts being integrated into NFL offenses I think its easier
for a young coach like Brady to take over these days.  Because as long as he's creating
a productive offense I think a team will overlook his "rookie mistakes".  But he has to
have a "gray hair" former HC as his DC to school him in private moments when mistakes
are made.  So I won't be shocked if in addition to Brady we look at Mike Kafka (KC - QB Coach)

[Savage69]

36 minutes ago, Larz said:

2018 offensive assistant 

2019 passing game coordinator 

2020 OC

no ******* way do I touch this guy 

burrow had 7 seconds to throw at LSU

peter principal 1,0000000%

Something Steve Young said on ESPN the other day about Tua but can apply to most QB's fresh out of college. There is Alabama open when looking for receivers and NFL open and it's just not the same.. 

[JustInFudge]

1 hour ago, Boynton Beach Jets said:

Yes we need a more experienced coach, that being said I want Dabol.  But we never get what we want with the Jets.  He has done wonders and is creative with the Bills offense.  He certainly has the experiance.

 

				Overall				Offense			Rushing Off					Passing Off
Year	Tm	Role	Tms	WL%	T/G	Pts±	Yds±	Yds	Pts	GvA	Att	Yds	TD	Y/A	FL	Att	Yds	TD	Int	NY/A
7 yrs				42	38	40	39	29	27	38	72	67	49	54	40	23	25	26	44	31
3 yrs	BUF	OC		70	54	56	68	43	42	41	71	66	55	49	55	36	42	40	47	45
2 yrs	CLE	OC		22	34	25	9	8	9	42	59	59	53	47	36	13	8	8	42	16
1 yr	KAN	OC		6	6	3	19	28	3	9	88	88	25	84	13	13	3	3	6	6
1 yr	MIA	OC		31	28	59	34	34	41	47	84	69	44	56	28	16	31	47	78	47
2009	CLE	OC	32	25	29	27	32	32	29	22	6	8	20	15	26	30	32	31	20	32
2010	CLE	OC	32	27	15	23	28	29	31	17	22	20	12	21	17	28	29	30	19	24
2011	MIA	OC	32	23	24	14	22	22	20	18	6	11	19	15	24	28	23	18	8	18
2012	KAN	OC	32	31	31	32	27	24	32	30	5	5	25	6	29	29	32	32	31	31
2018	BUF	OC	32	22	23	28	18	30	30	30	6	9	11	21	15	28	31	32	31	31
2019	BUF	OC	32	8	10	10	9	24	23	11	6	8	18	14	5	24	26	24	15	21
2020	BUF	OC	32	2	14	7	7	4	6	19	19	19	17	17	26	12	2	5	8	4

If we're going coordinator ranks, I like Daboll.  I cant act like I'm informed enough to tell you who is going to be the better HC between guys like Daboll, Beinemey, Smith or Brady for that matter but at least all those other guys have real experience to look back at.  Legit, Brady has 2 years of NFL experience.   It would be one thing if he was a HC in college or an OC for a number of years but that's not the case.  He's only coached Football for 4 years.  Crazy stretch to put him in charge of a team rebuilding off 2/3 wins.

I'd prefer a HC with HC'ing experience but if we're going OC's, give me Daboll, Beiniemey or Smith.

[Boynton Beach Jets]

5 minutes ago, JiF said:

If we're going coordinator ranks, I like Daboll.  I cant act like I'm informed enough to tell you who is going to be the better HC between guys like Daboll, Beinemey, Smith or Brady for that matter but at least all those other guys have real experience to look back at.  Legit, Brady has 2 years of NFL experience.   It would be one thing if he was a HC in college or an OC for a number of years but that's not the case.  He's only coached Football for 4 years.  Crazy stretch to put him in charge of a team rebuilding off 2/3 wins.

I'd prefer a HC with HC'ing experience but if we're going OC's, give me Daboll, Beiniemey or Smith.

Not a fan of Beiniemy he is just a follower of Andy Reid.  I do like Daboll and Smith both are true OC's and innovators.  I hope we don't go with a failed HC.

[Jet_Engine1]

6 hours ago, Lupz27 said:

This is the one time nobody coached up a player.  This player coaches up coaches.

[Jet Blast]

12 hours ago, WhartonJet said:

Daboll is 1st on my list, followed by Brady.  In either case, I hope they get a seasoned defensive coordinator preferably with head coaching experience for the head coach to lean on.  That would also let Daboll or Brady focus on getting this offense to respectability

That's exactly what the Jets did with Gase and Williams and where did that get us?

I want a coach who will hire excellent coordinators and assistant coaches. I want a coach who is leader. I want a coach who will oversee the big picture- not just one aspect of the team.

[Embrace the Suck]

7 hours ago, KRL said:

If Brady is hired you would have to create a LAR
situation when they hired McVay.  You would need
a "gray hair" DC with former HC experience.  Pairing
Brady with Marvin Lewis as DC would be interesting

So an on the job mentor. A guy who can provide an opinion based on prior experience to help the HC grow into the position. 

[cant wait]

3 hours ago, bla bla bla said:

I'd bet it was Kafka. I think there is a reason why Andy Reid was blocking people from interviewing him last year. Apparently that week 17 game back in 2017 (Mahomes first game) the rest of the coaching staff was told to focus on the playoffs and Kafka was tasked with game planning with Mahomes.

It was Kafka. When Nagy was the OC Kafka exclusively worked with Mahomes while Nagy worked with Smith the starter. Bienemy isn’t involved with the passing game. 

“We’ve all got things [Mahomes] can work on,” said the head coach. “We have a list of things and Mike (Kafka) takes him through it and goes down and they study it and make sure he takes steps forward. He has a bunch of things he can work on.”