Popular Post win4ever Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 Since the Jets season doesn't matter, figured I would compile all the coach's film that I can find on Fields and leave it here. I watched them sporadically, so I'll leave my thoughts at the end. Ohio State vs. Clemson This one, you can watch both Fields and Lawrence. Aside from Fields, I think the one thing that struck me a bit odd is how much Clemson came out in RPO at the start. Ohio State vs. Wisconsin: A Four Verts Breakdown: Ohio State vs. FAU: Ohio State vs. Indiana (2019) Ohio State Passing Concept: Breakdown of OC vs Michigan State: QB School Breakdown: Fields: I'll write what I think a bit later tonight. Anyway, I would love to see some analysis based on what you see, and if you can point out PRO or Flaws from these tapes. Let's not just buy into media narratives, see if we can find what we like/dislike from the films. 10 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 56mehl56 Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2020 Thanks for posting these, funny how there are no comments yet. I watch these and I still shake my head at what some posters are claiming when they say Fields doesn't read defenses or make quick decisions. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HawaiisOnlyJetsFan Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Thanks for posting these, funny how there are no comments yet. I watch these and I still shake my head at what some posters are claiming when they say Fields doesn't read defenses or make quick decisions. Because most just watch highlights, which generally means it's first read big play. If you're having to get to you third or fourth read in college it's probably not a highlight worthy play. The rest is just bias for or against. Fields has pro level physical skills: touch, ball placement/accuracy, good deep ball, incredible athleticism. Most of my negatives on him have to do with decision making and trying to do too much on his own. Always looking for the big play instead of taking what's there. Was a little down on him after the NW game, that said I still have him 1b to TL and would be happy if we drafted him. 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 this is a good post.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 He’s going to be a stud, I think he will need to sit a year though, I would hate we passed on him and he’s lighting the league up. So much higher upside than Darnold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Thanks for posting these, funny how there are no comments yet. I watch these and I still shake my head at what some posters are claiming when they say Fields doesn't read defenses or make quick decisions. People are overreacting to two bad games. He’s by no means a perfect prospect, but he has a lot of potential 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, slimjasi said: People are overreacting to two bad games. He’s by no means a perfect prospect, but he has a lot of potential Did Ohio State lose those 2 games?. Thank You. You can have all the bad games here as a Jet you want if they wind up as wins. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 My Analysis. He is better than Sam Darnold 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetworks Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 FFS, are any of you older than 30? If you are, and you are watching this all-22 stuff, how are you not instantly reminded of this middling journeyman? You can get away with bad mechanics in college, not so much in the NFL, especially with players being so much faster. Sorry, but Fields is a hard pass. Take the best offensive players available at OL/WR/TE/RB and give Darnold a shot while setting the stage for the next guy if he fails. Lawrence was the only one really worth tanking for. Since we sucked just bad enough to not get him doesn't mean we don't suck enough to address other positions of need. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Bad mechanics? Fields has pretty flawless mechanics 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I've never watched All 22 film before. Might have to give it a whirl. I've been a big proponent of Fields for a long time. I'll be very interested in watching Wisconsin, Clemson and Indiana tapes. All run NFL type pressure schemes etc. Very good defenses. I'm sure those won't be(I know they aren't) as good as his games vs Roast Beef Tech, but that should be expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, Jetworks said: FFS, are any of you older than 30? If you are, and you are watching this all-22 stuff, how are you not instantly reminded of this middling journeyman? You can get away with bad mechanics in college, not so much in the NFL, especially with players being so much faster. Sorry, but Fields is a hard pass. Take the best offensive players available at OL/WR/TE/RB and give Darnold a shot while setting the stage for the next guy if he fails. Lawrence was the only one really worth tanking for. Since we sucked just bad enough to not get him doesn't mean we don't suck enough to address other positions of need. Kerry Collins was a million times better than Darnold, too And pass on Fields because of mechanics but give Darnold a 4th year to display more bad mechanics. Got it. Cool. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Obrien2Toon Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 If you watched Fields from last year, he’s a no brainer at 2 if you watch him from this year, you wouldn’t even think he’s a first rounder the question is do you believe this is the real him or has this strange COVID season messed with him and last year was the real him i would take a shot on him at 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: If you watched Fields from last year, he’s a no brainer at 2 if you watch him from this year, you wouldn’t even think he’s a first rounder the question is do you believe this is the real him or has this strange COVID season messed with him and last year was the real him i would take a shot on him at 2 By this year you mean the northwestern game? He’s played 6 games. After 3 games he was legitimately giving Lawrence a run for the #1 pick. 1000 yards, 90% comp, 11 TDs, zero picks. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Great post. Tank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I remember hearing somewhere (Cowherd show?) that after year 3, QB's rarely get dramatically better... In other words, you know what you've got by then... I think we've seen enough of Darnold to know his ceiling... The Jets are going nowhere without a franchise QB... I say at #2 we have a shot at getting one... Draft this beast... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetworks said: FFS, are any of you older than 30? If you are, and you are watching this all-22 stuff, how are you not instantly reminded of this middling journeyman? You can get away with bad mechanics in college, not so much in the NFL, especially with players being so much faster. Sorry, but Fields is a hard pass. Take the best offensive players available at OL/WR/TE/RB and give Darnold a shot while setting the stage for the next guy if he fails. Lawrence was the only one really worth tanking for. Since we sucked just bad enough to not get him doesn't mean we don't suck enough to address other positions of need. Fields has good mechanics, his problem is that he is slow at making reads and holds onto the ball forever. Seriously, what the hell are you looking at if you think Fields has bad mechanics? Here's a video on Fields mechanics since your blind. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, slimjasi said: People are overreacting to two bad games. He’s by no means a perfect prospect, but he has a lot of potential I agree to an extend but those were two signature games. So you have to give it some weight. It bumped him out of being the defacto pick for us at 2. Theres work to be done now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Paradis said: I agree to an extend but those were two signature games. So you have to give it some weight. It bumped him out of being the defacto pick for us at 2. Theres work to be done now. In one of those “bad games” he threw for 300 yard and 2 TDs, oh he also ran for 80 and another score. Other than two bone head picks from trying to throw the ball while getting tackled it was a showcase game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, QB1 said: In one of those “bad games” he threw for 300 yard and 2 TDs, oh he also ran for 80 and another score. Other than two bone head picks from trying to throw the ball while getting tackled it was a showcase game. Fair enough. I’m echoing the same sentiment, but was enough there to step back and take a harder look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, QB1 said: In one of those “bad games” he threw for 300 yard and 2 TDs, oh he also ran for 80 and another score. Other than two bone head picks from trying to throw the ball while getting tackled it was a showcase game. Watch the games. It’s not a stat game it’s performance that’s disconcerting. It’s failure to read the rush and release the ball. His athleticism saves him but he needs to show more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Watch the games. It’s not a stat game it’s performance that’s disconcerting. It’s failure to read the rush and release the ball. His athleticism saves him but he needs to show more. I watched the entire game multiple times. If he eats those two sacks it’s a great game. Id be more concerned about Lawrence throwing balls directly into the hands of a linebacker two weeks in a row. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Paradis said: I agree to an extend but those were two signature games. So you have to give it some weight. It bumped him out of being the defacto pick for us at 2. Theres work to be done now. see - I think Fields has some really good traits that translate to today’s NFL and I doubt that opinion will change based on what happens tomorrow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, slimjasi said: see - I think Fields has some really good traits that translate to today’s NFL and I doubt that opinion will change based on what happens tomorrow Possibly. Assessing QBs is difficult on a good day. Sometimes I think it’s obvious other times I don’t know what to believe. I’ll trust in JD for now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Jetsbb said: My Analysis. He is better than Sam Darnold That’s really not the questions anymore. Is he better than Zach Wilson? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 49 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: That’s really not the questions anymore. Is he better than Zach Wilson? Yes. The same people that are destroying him over 2-3 games are ignoring an absolutely mediocre season last year from Wilson. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post win4ever Posted January 1, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 Great to see the responses, anyway, here are some of my thoughts from the Clemson game last year. I don't feel like making gifs and an article, so I'll just give you the time stamps. Since Lawrence is in this one, I'll include him as well. BTW, if you are breaking it down yourself, I suggest playing it at .5 speed. Fields first drive: First throw, standard tunnel screen, pretty much HS QBs can do this. 4:40: A curl out, but Fields is into his throwing motion before the WR makes his break, showing very good anticipation. 5:47: A progression read here, because the slot receiver isn't covered at the line. The safety is far back, which is why this is the first read. If the LB blitzes, this is the hot read. The LB hangs drifts back into coverage, and Fields moves on from the read, and makes a great throw to the middle of the field. This shows his awareness at the line of scrimmage (saw the possible lapse in coverage) and then ability to move to his next progression. 6:04: While this is a complete pass after an RPO (reading the middle field LB), this is a late throw by a hair. Unless this was an option route by the outside WR, Fields waits until the receiver starts his break to pull the trigger. If this was the planned route, this ball has to be released a tick earlier, because the CB may make a play on it if he doesn't slip. Considering the outside WR on the other end ran a comeback route as well, I think this is one where one of his weaknesses show through, which is sometimes holding on until the WR is open. 6:28: He shows good awareness is a couple of aspects here. One, the defender jumps offsides, at which point he throws up a free play deep pass. Countless times I've felt the Jets basically just don't seem to know what to do in such a situation, rather than taking shots down the field. This is where couch scouting becomes hard, because I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a back shoulder pass. The defender is facing away from the ball, and the trajectory at release seems like a back shoulder pass is likely here. However, the receiver high points the ball, while somewhat turning around. I think this one is up for interpretation, because if it's a back shoulder pass, this is an excellent awareness. 9:52: This is a terrible play from Fields, and highlights his issues with holding onto the ball. They run a mesh concept, but Fields doesn't pull the trigger because his read is based on the LB and CB at the 3 yard line. If the LB stays home, then the CB becomes the read. You can freeze it at 9:55 because that's the decision moment. If the CB comes up for the RB, then the corner of the end zone pass to the TE. If the LB comes up for the RB, then the crossing route to 17. If the CB stays back, and the LB stays back, then the pass to the RB. He makes the right read but one second too late because he waits until 9:56 before pulling the trigger, at which point the timing is disrupted for the passing lanes. As soon as the LB sat down at the 3, this was a pass to the RB but he waited to see if someone comes open. Bad play. 10:57: This play is basically dead because 17 falls down. I'm not sure if it's a stop and go fade (because he is trying to cut on his inside leg) or a cut inside, but it's over as soon as he falls down. Fields tries to make something out of it, but can't. Lawrence: First play is basically a double option run. 13:38: Classic RPO, he's reading the middle linebacker. If that LB drops back, give it to the RB because they will match the number of defenders with blockers to the outside. If the LB drives, then the in route will be open given the depth of the CBs, especially playing that far back. I love Lawrence, but this is basically a simple read RPO that is all over college. I'm not saying Fields has a more advanced system, just wanted to point out Clemson runs easy read plays as well. 14:38: Same thing we saw before with Fields, Lawrence sees an offside play, takes a deep shot. This is a great throw, the WR just wasn't able to get his feet down. Once again, great situational awareness and throw. 15:31: I'm not sure what the hell this call is, an RPO into a tunnel screen? It goes nowhere. 16:08: Gritty run by Lawrence, especially for a 3rd and short conversion. 16:38: I looked at this play more times than I care to admit. It looks like an RPO, but I think it's a pass first option, reading the linebacker. If the linebacker drops into the flats for the WR, then you can assume the middle linebacker will slide over to cover the TE, thus leaving the middle open for the RB, If the LB doesn't slide over, then this is another easy out to the WR. The throw is late though because much like Fields, Lawrence waits until the WR starts his break to start his throwing motion. Although this is a very good read from him, showing that he does have command of the defensive reads. 17:14: If the last play, he understood defenses, this one is the absolute opposite. I'm not sure what he sees here, because OSU rolls the coverage from the safety, and he throws what very well should be an interception, and possible pick 6 depending on the LB's speed. He doesn't see the LB at all. Pre-snap he can see the safety playing back, and he starts off looking at the middle field safety. He knows the slot receiver should be open relative to the CB because either he will be covered by a safety running in the wrong direction, or a CB playing well off the WR (as is the case). But he just whiffs on seeing the LB dropping into coverage. 17:50: I thought this was actually a good throw, just didn't go for a completion. You can make an argument for PI here but Lawrence stood in the pocket and made a good anticipation throw, but the WR was a tad late to get to the spot on the comeback. Fields: 19:50: This play is just a TD run by the RB. However, I wanted to highlight why the RPO should be a good part of our offense next year, because the DE on this play isn't blocked at all. He's the read for Fields, and watch how he stops in his tracks for a split second to make sure Fields doesn't have the ball, which allows the RB to get by him. By not blocking him, the offense is able to match the other defenders to create a hole. In essence, Fields becomes the blocker by his presence, which is something more and more teams should incorporate into their offense in the NFL if the QB has some form of mobility. Lawrence: 22:58: This goes for a incomplete pass because the WR drops it, but Lawrence shows his ability to extend the play, and throw on the run. He doesn't force a throw here, instead runs to create time. This should have been a 5 or so yard completion. 23:40: This is an absolutely insane throw from Lawrence. I'm not sure what the initial read on this play is, because at the top of the drop, other than a dump off, I don't see any breaks from the WR. I'm not sure if this is a timing issue, but it looks like Lawrence bails before he was supposed to on the play. However, what makes this insane isn't very clear at this angle. Chase Young basically is acting like a rim protector, and Lawrence isn't able to complete his follow through on the pass. He basically just flicks it up in the air ala Fitzpatrick last week, and makes a similar completion, This is mighty impressive, consider he's running to his left, flipping his hips, throwing off balance without a follow through, and the ball goes 35 yards down the field. 24:50: If we criticize Fields for his offensive system, this is my biggest criticism of Lawrence's offensive system. There's just so many throws near the line of scrimmage, where they stretch the field horizontally for easy completions. 25:26: This ball is batted down, but this is a late throw. Notice how he only starts his motion as the WR starts his break. On a throw across the hash, this needs to be a split second faster, If this throw isn't batted down, there's a good chance the CB at least has a shot at the ball. Fields: 28:55: This is a very good throw from his end zone albeit he is staring down the WR. He makes the throw on time, although if you had to nitpick, it could be just a hair faster, although this isn't as bad as the one from before because the distance to the receiver isn't as great. He anticipates well, although the first down is clearly made by the WR rather than the QB here. Good throw. 30:04: If Lawrence had that boneheaded throw earlier in the game that should have been intercepted, here is Fields this time. This is just a terrible read. This is where the one read system bites him in the ass. The read is the slot CB (LB? I can't tell). If the CB (LB?) stays with the slot WR to the inside, the outside out route will be open with the CB bailing. If the LB floats outside (as is the case), then the slot WR will be open for a quick hit because the safety is playing back, However, the safety is baiting Fields and he steps right into the bait. He should have stuck to his progression, and moved to the RB in the middle, but he pulls the trigger and is lucky this wasn't intercepted. This is just a terrible read. 30:35: I can't blame this sack on Fields, he's attacked before any of the routes break, so he doesn't really have an option. Lawrence: 32:42: If you want an example of Lawrence reading defenses, this is a decent example. When he pulls the trigger on this ball, there is a CB directly between him and the WR but the CB is moving in the other direction as he's covering another receiver. This is an excellent read and throw. 33;50: I can't blame Lawrence for this sack, he was attacked before any route really broke. Fields: 35:20: I can't tell if this ball was deflected, but I couldn't find any evidence of it. I think this is just a bad throw. 35:50: I want to say this is an OK throw, because the physical aspect is fine. However, he stares down the WR here, which allows the safety to read his eyes. However, Fields makes a good throw and doesn't hesitate much, thus the safety doesn't have time to get to the ball. 38:19: I'm not sure I can blame him for this play. He's under pressure, but he makes the right read which is the WR becoming open in the end zone on the crosser, The issue is the defender catches him in the throwing motion as he steps up, thus the ball floats. In terms of a read I think he did well here, it's the pressure that causes the big issue. Ideally, I would like to see him step up in the pocket a bit more as he makes this throw. 39:39: This is an absolutely great throw with touch. It's ruled a TD at first and then reversed because the RB bobbled it on the ground. However, as far as Fields is concerned, this is a great throw, puts it right over the LB with touch. Should have easily been a TD. Remember the play earlier where I said he made the wrong read on the LB, because as soon as he sat down, the throw was to the RB? Well this is pretty much a similar concept, but he makes the read much quicker. I think it's Issiah Simmons, but the read is the slot LB on the play. If he follows the RB to the outside, then the mesh crosser will become open. If he moves towards the inside and sits in that lane, the RB is the option, and Fields makes the read correctly. Ok, I think I'm done for tonight, Anyway, I just wanted to provide some of my thoughts on these tapes. So far, he shows his ups and downs, but so did Lawrence. I think the simple offensive scheme idea is over-rated because Lawrence runs a similar offense (albeit the simplicity is different because they stretch horizontally a lot more). Hopefully, we have a great game to watch tonight. 6 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 hours ago, oatmeal said: He’s going to be a stud, I think he will need to sit a year though, I would hate we passed on him and he’s lighting the league up. So much higher upside than Darnold You wanna draft a guy who you think needs to sit? This team doesnt have that luxury. wr need to get better right away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 There's nothing not to like about Fields and I've been a fan since last year. My biggest knock on him this year was in Ohio St. final two games his decision making appeared to be a touch slow. He was getting hit and sacked too much for someone so athletic. But as I brought up in other posts was that because Fields has a "flaw" in his internal clock. Or was it because Ohio St. schedule and roster was hit so hard by the virus that Fields didn't get enough game reps to "fine tune" his internal clock? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 @win4ever fantastic, informative post, really appreciate the time and effort. I think people understate the simplicity of the offense Lawrence is running, this may be an unfair generalisation but it seems he’s running RPO most of the time, either dumping off to wide open short routes or making plays with his feet or lobbing up deep balls to NFL calibre WR’s, he undoubtedly benefits from the insane supporting cast as well. That said he still makes some impressive plays and Fields too has an elite supporting cast. I just don’t feel like I see Lawrence making multiple reads and hitting on those tough intermediate routes that are the staple in the NFL. And I can’t remember seeing him take a snap under Center. would love to see your breakdowns on Zach Wilson?....possibly harder to get hold of all-22 on BYU games maybe 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, KRL said: There's nothing not to like about Fields and I've been a fan since last year. My biggest knock on him this year was in Ohio St. final two games his decision making appeared to be a touch slow. He was getting hit and sacked too much for someone so athletic. But as I brought up in other posts was that because Fields has a "flaw" in his internal clock. Or was it because Ohio St. schedule and roster was hit so hard by the virus that Fields didn't get enough game reps to "fine tune" his internal clock? This is something that always concerns me about qbs coming from top programs. Since guys from Alabama, Clemson, Ohio state, etc, have such advantages of the talent around them when they play most games, they’re often not put in situations where they need to make many 2nd and 3rd reads or need to do it all themselves. We’ve seen geno and darnold really fail here because they cant read defenses and have slow internal clocks. I would prefer the guy with a quicker tempo like Wilson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: This is something that always concerns me about qbs coming from top programs. Since guys from Alabama, Clemson, Ohio state, etc, have such advantages of the talent around them when they play most games, they’re often not put in situations where they need to make many 2nd and 3rd reads or need to do it all themselves. We’ve seen geno and darnold really fail here because they cant read defenses and have slow internal clocks. I would prefer the guy with a quicker tempo like Wilson. Its definitely a factor and it applies to Lawrence as well. Because no matter how many people say he's a "generational player" he's playing with a ton of NFL caliber talent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 53 minutes ago, redlichtie said: @win4ever fantastic, informative post, really appreciate the time and effort. I think people understate the simplicity of the offense Lawrence is running, this may be an unfair generalisation but it seems he’s running RPO most of the time, either dumping off to wide open short routes or making plays with his feet or lobbing up deep balls to NFL calibre WR’s, he undoubtedly benefits from the insane supporting cast as well. That said he still makes some impressive plays and Fields too has an elite supporting cast. I just don’t feel like I see Lawrence making multiple reads and hitting on those tough intermediate routes that are the staple in the NFL. And I can’t remember seeing him take a snap under Center. would love to see your breakdowns on Zach Wilson?....possibly harder to get hold of all-22 on BYU games maybe Its not the "popular narrative" but you're right. Lawrence throws a TON of simple WR screens where he basically takes the snap and flips a 2 yard pass to a wide open receiver. You don't see a lot of passes into the middle of the defense where coverages can be tricky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 Awesome stuff, a lot of this has been posted and discussed but I personally appreciate not just coming in here and regurgitating the national media has to say but actually looking at it yourself and making an assessment. I've given my take on a lot of these and I've said it before, I walked away feeling much more impressed by Fields then Lawrence when they went head to head last year, so I appreciate your breakdown. Fields shows you everything on tape. There isnt a particular aspect he lacks or is a huge concern. I hear the "holds the ball too long" comments a lot, he really doesnt. Some of that is system; for a example they run a ton of 4 verts. Those plays require the QB to hold the ball longer but what is sexy is you'll see him go through 4 progressions on those plays, hold a safety with this eyes and throw the best deep ball in the game. He's an all world athlete, with an Ivy League brain all wrapped up into an elite QB prospect but we can nit pick a game vs. a top 10 D with 22 players out, including starters on the OL and his #1 WR or we can look deeper. I prefer the deeper look. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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