Sooooo Dan Mullen?

[Mogglez 15,537]

@JiF how would you feel?  I’m not entirely a fan.

[20andOut 770]

"people that know things"? Don't all people know at least some things?

[Mogglez 15,537]

Just now, 20andOut said:

"people that know things"? Don't all people know at least some things?

[Jet Nut 16,144]

Dan Mullen went to Wagner College on Staten Island

Rich Kotite went to Wagner College on Staten Island

[Greenseed4 5,052]

Wait wait wait, the old Ohio State guy will go to JAX to coach the Clemson kid, and then the Florida guy will go to New Jersey (that lies about being New York) to coach the Ohio State kid?

[win4ever 2,145]

I would take him as well, although makes me wonder because I keep hearing Meyer, Day, and now Mullen all from that Meyer tree possibly talking to the NFL.  I wonder if this is just agent BS to get a better deal.  

The amount of coaches I would take is quite extensive given the sh*t show we've been dealing with the past few years. 

[heymangold 1,988]

No thanks

[Matt39 42,692]

Mullen currently making 6 mill per. Doubt the Johnson's can get near there.

[JiF 150,026]

20 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

@JiF how would you feel?  I’m not entirely a fan.

Not sure how I'd feel.  I like Mullen.  I think he's a very good coach.  Great offensive mind, great with QB's, great play caller.  Only a maybe 2 or 3 times since he's been at Florida have I really questioned his game management.  I think he can be his own worst enemy sometimes.  He's very arrogant and it gets the best of him.  LSU for example, I think he took them lightly by resting players ie; Pitts, thinking they'd just roll and LSU wasnt having it.  Other examples of similar bravado kind of biting him in the ass.  He's also kind of a nut job and bit of a whiner.  That said, he's turned the Gators around and put them back in the national conversation so I do appreciate him and think he's a very good coach.  The guy had Miss St. #1 overall at one time.  That's unreal when you think about it. Just not sure he's an NFL coach.

I dont think I'd be heartbroken as a Gators fan.  I'd be appreciative because he left it better then it was when he got here and I think the job is more attractive because of it.  The next coach would be inheriting some strong recruiting classes. Plus, I think there are guys around the NCAA who are ready for a bigger job and are very appealing like Luke Fickell, Pat Fitzgerald, Matt Campbell and some other.

For the Jets, I dont know how I'd feel.  I'd be more intrigued then angered, I think.  Not sure, honestly.  I dont see it happening though, like not at all.

[Guilhermezmc 1,358]

[Sarge4Tide 8,338]

It's plausible he'd be interested  given the talent leaving UF, the somewhat minor NCAA sanctions, and the fact some of the Gator fans are somewhat beginning to sour on Mullen.

 

[JiF 150,026]

2 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Mullen currently making 6 mill per. Doubt the Johnson's can get near there.

That and there is just so much more job security and so many less distractions.  College HC just seems much more appealing to me these days.  

How many have made the leap in recent history? Rhule, KK, OBrien, Carroll..is that it?  Chip Kelly.

Not all that common anymore

 

[Matt39 42,692]

2 minutes ago, JiF said:

That and there is just so much more job security and so many less distractions.  College HC just seems much more appealing to me these days.  

How many have made the leap in recent history? Rhule, KK, OBrien, Carroll..is that it?  Chip Kelly.

Not all that common anymore

 

I think the Jets need to get a proven HC at this point in time. I was thinking someone at a smaller school who's making less money, but if Muller were actually interested he'd definitely be a solid hire. I just dont see this as true at all. Unless the Jets/Johnsons have decided to do things differently.

[T0mShane 139,690]

8 minutes ago, JiF said:

He's very arrogant and it gets the best of him. [...] Other examples of similar bravado kind of biting him in the ass.  He's also kind of a nut job and bit of a whiner.

So you are saying he’s the perfect UF guy

[JiF 150,026]

4 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

It's plausible he'd be interested  given the talent leaving UF, the somewhat minor NCAA sanctions, and the fact some of the Gator fans are somewhat beginning to sour on Mullen.

 

Meh, there is always talent leaving.  And fwiw, most of these guys; Pitts, Trask, Grimes, Toney, werent his recruits.  His 2 QB's and the one coming in are all obviously much bigger prospects then Trask but also more of a Mullen QB so he'll be able to run his hole playbook that he couldnt with Trask.  The WR pipeline is deep despite the poor performance the other day.  The sanctions arent really even sanctions, slap on the hand type stuff.  I dont know anyone who doesnt believe in Mullen.

[HawkeyeJet 10,675]

I would be curious if anyone is against Mullen but for Matt Campbell and why? 

[win4ever 2,145]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

Not sure how I'd feel.  I like Mullen.  I think he's a very good coach.  Great offensive mind, great with QB's, great play caller.  Only a maybe 2 or 3 times since he's been at Florida have I really questioned his game management.  I think he can be his own worst enemy sometimes.  He's very arrogant and it gets the best of him.  LSU for example, I think he took them lightly by resting players ie; Pitts, thinking they'd just roll and LSU wasnt having it.  Other examples of similar bravado kind of biting him in the ass.  He's also kind of a nut job and bit of a whiner.  That said, he's turned the Gators around and put them back in the national conversation so I do appreciate him and think he's a very good coach.  The guy had Miss St. #1 overall at one time.  That's unreal when you think about it. Just not sure he's an NFL coach.

I dont think I'd be heartbroken as a Gators fan.  I'd be appreciative because he left it better then it was when he got here and I think the job is more attractive because of it.  The next coach would be inheriting some strong recruiting classes. Plus, I think there are guys around the NCAA who are ready for a bigger job and are very appealing like Luke Fickell, Pat Fitzgerald, Matt Campbell and some other.

For the Jets, I dont know how I'd feel.  I'd be more intrigued then angered, I think.  Not sure, honestly.  I dont see it happening though, like not at all.

I've thought about Mullen for awhile, because at one point I wanted to write about sleeper pick Nick Fitzgerald from Ole Miss, lol.  So I ended up diving deep into his offense there and figured it was extremely QB friendly, which is  really great for developing QBs, 

I think the only way I see him leaving is if he doesn't like QB class coming after Trask, but I don't know enough to comment.  If he feels they would need a rebuild, maybe, but other than that, I don't see a lot of college guys jumping.  If you can recruit well, I honestly think it's a step down jobwise to jump to the NFL.  Coach at college, get paid really well, you control these kid's lives, pretty much the most influential guy on campus, and the recruiting classes keep the talent disparity up.  

[JiF 150,026]

4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

I think the Jets need to get a proven HC at this point in time. I was thinking someone at a smaller school who's making less money, but if Muller were actually interested he'd definitely be a solid hire. I just dont see this as true at all. Unless the Jets/Johnsons have decided to do things differently.

I cant pretend to know who the right hire is, I'm so desperate I'd be fine with Jim Caldwell or Marvin Jones simply because they've overcome historical ineptitude with other NFL teams.  I just think this is a big job for someone without NFL experience.  Hiring the staff to create the culture, stability, respect, etc, is crucial.  This team had bounty gate jerk bag, Gregg Williams and Dowell Loggains, ffs.  Who is our ST's coordinator?  I dont even know.  

 

[JiF 150,026]

13 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

So you are saying he’s the perfect UF guy

It's often said, "he gets our culture". 

[Icer 3,216]

He brought UF back into relevance even though they haven't made that big jump to the playoff stage yet. Definitely an interesting option as an overseer type

[Losmeister 6,802]

dont know enough to comment...

shrug

[JiF 150,026]

11 minutes ago, win4ever said:

I've thought about Mullen for awhile, because at one point I wanted to write about sleeper pick Nick Fitzgerald from Ole Miss, lol.  So I ended up diving deep into his offense there and figured it was extremely QB friendly, which is  really great for developing QBs, 

I think the only way I see him leaving is if he doesn't like QB class coming after Trask, but I don't know enough to comment.  If he feels they would need a rebuild, maybe, but other than that, I don't see a lot of college guys jumping.  If you can recruit well, I honestly think it's a step down jobwise to jump to the NFL.  Coach at college, get paid really well, you control these kid's lives, pretty much the most influential guy on campus, and the recruiting classes keep the talent disparity up.  

He likes Emory Jones.  He's been keeping him in the program while playing Trask.  He's a much more talented athlete and can run the hole playbook.  He already sprinkles him into the game plan with Trask.  He also likes Antony Richardson.  Bigger version of Emory Jones both more of his style Qb ie; Smith, Tebow, Fitz, Dak, etc.  What he did to adjust for Trask was awesome. 

[Beerfish 33,482]

Florida Offense metamorphosis has been impressive.  Need to know more about how he handled his QBs or wanted them.  If he was pro fillipe franks and in his corner then i want no part of him.

 

In any case the next head coach of the Jets is currently coaching in the Fiesta Bowl and has his team ahead at half time

[K_O_Brien 810]

 

[jetstream23 29,855]

58 minutes ago, 20andOut said:

"people that know things"? Don't all people know at least some things?

 

Have you seen some of the posts on this forum?

[Ruby2 2,410]

53 minutes ago, JiF said:

Not sure how I'd feel.  I like Mullen.  I think he's a very good coach.  Great offensive mind, great with QB's, great play caller.  Only a maybe 2 or 3 times since he's been at Florida have I really questioned his game management.  I think he can be his own worst enemy sometimes.  He's very arrogant and it gets the best of him.  LSU for example, I think he took them lightly by resting players ie; Pitts, thinking they'd just roll and LSU wasnt having it.  Other examples of similar bravado kind of biting him in the ass.  He's also kind of a nut job and bit of a whiner.  That said, he's turned the Gators around and put them back in the national conversation so I do appreciate him and think he's a very good coach.  The guy had Miss St. #1 overall at one time.  That's unreal when you think about it. Just not sure he's an NFL coach.

I dont think I'd be heartbroken as a Gators fan.  I'd be appreciative because he left it better then it was when he got here and I think the job is more attractive because of it.  The next coach would be inheriting some strong recruiting classes. Plus, I think there are guys around the NCAA who are ready for a bigger job and are very appealing like Luke Fickell, Pat Fitzgerald, Matt Campbell and some other.

For the Jets, I dont know how I'd feel.  I'd be more intrigued then angered, I think.  Not sure, honestly.  I dont see it happening though, like not at all.

Yeah I agree with this. Good coach. Really whiny personality. I do not think it would work in the NFL, and especially in NYC.

[Adoni Beast 4,089]

Not a bad option, but not the best.

Pros:

• Offensive expertise

• QB grooming history

• Overall program builder

Cons:

• What league connections does he have to build a staff?

• Whiny + NY Media = Gasey

[Matt39 42,692]

Nice win for Iowa State today. Campbell is the real deal.

[Bugg 44,626]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Mullen currently making 6 mill per. Doubt the Johnson's can get near there.

As much as the 32 NFL jobs are NFL jobs, the Johnsons have never paid top dollar for a coach. They simply don't so it.; they have NEVER hired THAT GUY. This hire is going to be very telling. Usually they go for the remainder bin guys, not the top end. Notice the Jets are not linked to Meyer nor Cowher, nor even Fitzgerald. 

[Matt39 42,692]

6 minutes ago, Bugg said:

As much as the 32 NFL jobs are NFL jobs, the Johnsons have never paid top dollar for a coach. They simply don't so it.; they have NEVER hired THAT GUY. This hire is going to be very telling. Usually they go for the remainder bin guys, not the top end. Notice the Jets are not linked to Meyer nor Cowher, nor even Fitzgerald. 

If the Jets go the unknown coordinator route again and bring back Darnold to start...then the franchise is forever hopeless. Real inflection point with the coach and QB. Time to get the right coach.

[Beerfish 33,482]

The Johnson's have to realize that if you get the right guy even though you are paying big money you are not paying money to guys you fire after two years after giving then a 4 year contract.

[SpankyJohnson 97]

3 hours ago, win4ever said:

I would take him as well, although makes me wonder because I keep hearing Meyer, Day, and now Mullen all from that Meyer tree possibly talking to the NFL.  I wonder if this is just agent BS to get a better deal.  

The amount of coaches I would take is quite extensive given the sh*t show we've been dealing with the past few years. 

Day ain't leaving Columbus. 
 

[GREENBEAN 13,186]

3 hours ago, Mogglez said:

@JiF how would you feel?  I’m not entirely a fan.

I just like the term "thorough and Lengthy search". That is what I want.  JD burning the midnight oil with guys like Fitzgerald, Campbell, Roman, Arthur Smith, Dabol, Swinney, Riley and whoever else not named Joe Brady.   It's exciting to think of a guy who actually knows things and his team of guys who also know things digging in deep. 

[Pennington 366]

Mullen runs an offense that would never work in the league and his personality is toxic.

[Pennington 366]

4 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said:

I just like the term "thorough and Lengthy search". That is what I want.  JD burning the midnight oil with guys like Fitzgerald, Campbell, Roman, Arthur Smith, Dabol, Swinney, Riley and whoever else not named Joe Brady.   It's exciting to think of a guy who actually knows things and his team of guys who also know things digging in deep. 

Brady and Wilson is the best coach QB combination available to the Jets.