peebag Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 The Jets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: In my opinion, which isn't worth a lot, he just never was able to process 2 things. 1. When the play was lost and to just take a sack/or throw away. He seemed to struggle with this more his first two seasons than this year, but is still an issue. He just always forced things when it was wise not to be. There was a quote from Belichick about his punt returner on today's forecast. He said he's aggressive not reckless. That's a fine line. Darnold us reckless. 2. He couldn't process what defenses were trying to do to him coverage-wise. I think this actually got worse over time. The 2nd pick today is a great example. He sees a certain coverage pre-snap and just completely stops processing what's going on and throws directly to someone that should have easily been identified. I never thought this was a huge issue last year, far more turnovers due to #1, but this year he just has no idea what's happening around him and where the ball should go as a result. interesting. not a good processor of information in real time and making real time adjustments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Bad decision making. He runs out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage, yet he sometimes throws the ball away on 3rd down when a sack is not the end of the world. Takes too many bad sacks. His inability to locate open receivers, or targeting the better option. He throws too many inexcusable interceptions. His interceptions are not from tipped passes. They are "who the hell were you throwing to?" interceptions. He almost NEVER pulls someone offsides with a hard count. Has he ever hard counted someone offsides? to me this says one thing: intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, peebag said: The Jets. cool story bro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 There's a lot of flaws. Doesn't appear to have a great football mind. Mechanics have always been bad. His vision on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Vision/Processing Doesn't see things on the field fast enough, cant read coverages or make adjustments. Death knell for QB's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said: There's a lot of flaws. Doesn't appear to have a great football mind. Mechanics have always been bad. His vision on the field. another vote for: intelligence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, southtown24th said: cool story bro When it's about the Jets, it isnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, southtown24th said: and your evidence to support this...is...what? His lack of improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 I am hearing a lot of: 1. Vision 2. Football Intelligence Makes sense. Maybe he is just stupid or stupid in terms of being an NFL QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, peebag said: When it's about the Jets, it isnt. super cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohhthepain Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Decision making. Loss of confidence. Horrific coaching and supporting cast. No fire or edge. Cream puff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Sonny Werblin said: His lack of improvement that's not like a character trait of his game. that was a direct result of the lack thereof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Ohhthepain said: Decision making. Loss of confidence. Horrific coaching and supporting cast. No fire or edge. Cream puff cool cool very cool you smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 Raise your hand if you coach youth football and you think you're Vince Lombardi? ANYONE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He’s stupid. That’s it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 ADAM GASE FOR HC!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 #1. His ability to quickly read defenses #2. Attempting to fit passes into tight windows without the arm strength to do so. #3. Not realizing when a play is dead and when to throw the ball away #4. Leadership qualities 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, southtown24th said: to me this says one thing: intelligence. I don't see it as an intelligence thing. It's a more of a poor instincts thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: He’s stupid. That’s it. I will take: lack of intelligence. I do not disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I don't see it as an intelligence thing. It's a more of a poor instincts thing. ok. so instincts/intuition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, southtown24th said: that's not like a character trait of his game. that was a direct result of the lack thereof. He’s gifted athletically. He had a high wonderlic score. IMO, he doesn’t work hard to be the best QB he can be. Oh, he goes through the motions, studies with Chili Palmer (or whatever his name is) and says all the right things, but ultimately he does not have a burning desire to be great. Frankly, I don’t know why more don’t see this. Just look at him during games. He looks like there are other places he’d rather be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 So is it: 1. Intelligence (IQ) OR 2. Intuition/Instincts (EQ) PICK ONE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: He’s gifted athletically. He had a high wonderlic score. IMO, he doesn’t work hard to be the best QB he can be. Oh, he goes through the motions, studies with Chili Palmer (or whatever his name is) and says all the right things, but ultimately he does not have a burning desire to be great. Frankly, I don’t know why more don’t see this. Just look at him during games. He looks like there are other places he’d rather be. interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMetsRangers Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Never seems to learn from mistakes, makes the same bad decisions and bad reads game after game........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He plays too much hero ball. Needs to understand he isn't in high school or the Pac-12. So many plays where he has an easy completion but looks elsewhere for a bigger play, only to throw a pick or get sacked. There are other issues, such as his poor footwork and general difficulty reading coverages, but he could be at the very least be a game manager type if he stopped trying to emulate Favre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 I think a lot of the issues can be rooted in: LACK of instincts and intuition or as we call it in the business: EQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Macc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, fullblast said: He plays too much hero ball. Needs to understand he isn't in high school or the Pac-12. So many plays where he has an easy completion but looks elsewhere for a bigger play, only to throw a pick or get sacked. There are other issues, such as his poor footwork and general difficulty reading coverages, but he could be at the very least a game manager type of he stopped trying to emulate Favre. interesting lack of efficacy and efficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Macc nope. not taking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouserJet Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 His arm for me. Yes his O-Line sucked, but there were so many missed throws by him being too weak and too many times where he was giving easy picks. Maybe his vision can be filled with that, I watch guys like Jackson and Mahomes and they just know where the pass is, Sam never ever knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He overthinks, and he can't see the field. Plus his deep ball leaves much to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: He’s gifted athletically. He had a high wonderlic score. IMO, he doesn’t work hard to be the best QB he can be. Oh, he goes through the motions, studies with Chili Palmer (or whatever his name is) and says all the right things, but ultimately he does not have a burning desire to be great. Frankly, I don’t know why more don’t see this. Just look at him during games. He looks like there are other places he’d rather be. Love this post, thought I was the only one who noticed this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, southtown24th said: I've sort of racked my brain... I am no peewee football wannabe Belichick rolling around in my team sweatpants all weekend at the local bagel shop on Long Island--you know the type--always has a whistle around the neck. Tell me: out of ALL of Sam Darnold's flaws, what was his #1 most tragic flaw? What was Sam Darnold's #1 "achilles heel" in his game? Sum it up in one sentence of less. No diatribes. Met fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 lol, Darnold makes Geno Smith look like Chad Pennington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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