HawkeyeJet 11,242 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Would that qualify as a big trade for JD? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post WhartonJet 263 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 You give our 2 first round picks this year without blinking. 19 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0mShane 141,921 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Darnold, both firsts this year, next year’s first. 6 11 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HawkeyeJet 11,242 Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 Also, I do think that this might be a more real possibility than some think. Watson did not appear happy with the GM situation. The Texans are a long way off even with Watson and have little draft capital. It would be a bold move, but I could see him moving. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Scott Dierking 134,984 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 You trust your instincts if you feel there is a qb in the draft that would help the Jets. Watson is a win now qb, and the Jets are not a win now team. And would be less so with the draft assets they would need to secure him. 6 4 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post T0mShane 141,921 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said: Also, I do think that this might be a more real possibility than some think. Watson did not appear happy with the GM situation. The Texans are a long way off even with Watson and have little draft capital. It would be a bold move, but I could see him moving. Watson presumably wants Bieniemy as his coach, so you’d have to do a package deal. Even so, how do you not do this? 5 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reprisalizer 61 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Yes. Sign the best WR you can to pair with him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost420 976 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Watson presumably wants Bieniemy as his coach, so you’d have to do a package deal. Even so, how do you not do this? What makes you think he wants Bieniemy as hc? 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Dierking 134,984 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Watson presumably wants Bieniemy as his coach, so you’d have to do a package deal. Even so, how do you not do this? Watson has an out in his contract after 2023. So unless the Jets show amazing aptitude in building a team and a staff, you risk having him for 3 years. Somewhat of a gamble. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
long time suffering Jets f 542 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 9 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Would that qualify as a big trade for JD? If those reports are true JD needs to get on the phone right away.We would have to give up a lot. Offer Seattle’s 2021 & 2022 1st rounders and Darnold for starters. Try to hold on with the #2 pick if you can. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Samtorobby47 5,110 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 1 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samtorobby47 5,110 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I'd trade them both 1's and Seattle's 1 next year easily. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post SAR I 14,533 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 Nothing. Rebuilding teams that win Super Bowls have quarterbacks on rookie deals. SAR I 6 1 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nycdan 20,991 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: Darnold, both firsts this year, next year’s first. No. Not next year's first. No way. Watson comes in with a $40M/year contract. Justin Fields comes in with a rookie contract. Yes, Watson is a known commodity and top-5 QB and Fields is completely unknown, but there is a cost to that contract that offsets a lot of that. Two firsts and Sam is more than enough for me. Honestly, HOU, with no picks in rounds 1 or 2 this year and cap issues, would probably leap at that offer. HOWEVER... Watson carries a $50M dead cap hit if they trade him this year. $35M after June 1 (which doesn't help since that's after the draft). They would literally not be able to field a team. So unless the cap is MUCH higher than projected, I don't think it's possible for them to trade him this year. [edit: My mistake. This was the 'cut' money. The trade money is lower as pointed out in a reply later on] 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JTJet 5,687 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, long time suffering Jets f said: If those reports are true JD needs to get on the phone right away.We would have to give up a lot. Offer Seattle’s 2021 & 2022 1st rounders and Darnold for starters. Try to hold on with the #2 pick if you can. Their conversation would start and end with at LEAST our #2 this year. Might as well let that pipe dream completely go. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
prime21 5,885 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Three #1's. I would do it. Basically trading Jamal and our #1 for him. No brainer. 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drums 5,004 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Man, if only Bill was still there. Could probably do it for a 2 and Franky Gore 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
long time suffering Jets f 542 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: I'd trade them both 1's and Seattle's 1 next year easily. Damn. That’s giving up a lot of draft capital. We’d be getting a full fledged franchise QB, but that trade would still hurt like hell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Icer 3,584 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 1st Round Picks and extras Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post DJF71 1,448 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 Leave it to the Jets to not draft him in 2017 only to draft a safety instead who is no longer on the team. Then give away 3 second round draft picks for a QB that they are going to dump. Then to trade three even higher draft picks for a QB they should have drafted with a $40M salary and then give him a roster worse than the one he asked to be traded from. We are not in the position to trade away draft picks. FA's rarely work out for us so we can't say lets just sign this guy or that guy. 10 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post BroadwayRay 3,146 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 Keep dreaming folks, but making this type of trade is not how Douglas builds a team. He has said repeatedly he is a believer in "drafting and developing." He repeated it in his press conference a few days ago. 6 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bleedin Green 79,942 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said: You trust your instincts if you feel there is a qb in the draft that would help the Jets. Watson is a win now qb, and the Jets are not a win now team. And would be less so with the draft assets they would need to secure him. Under different circumstances I might agree with that conceptually, but Watson is 25 years old. The dude has a LOOOOOOONG career ahead of him, and is proven as an insanely talented QB. He is a guy you can build your entire team around, and even if they gave up a ton to get him, they'd still have plenty left to start putting a better team together around him this year, and his presence would be an immediate selling point to FAs. If we were talking about a QB near retirement then it's an entirely different story, but when you're talking about a guy who will have some rookies nearly as old as him, there's nothing "win now" about it. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sourceworx 6,109 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 23 minutes ago, WhartonJet said: You give our 2 first round picks this year without blinking. Absolutely Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bleedin Green 79,942 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On a side note, nothing would be more hilarious and glorious if the Jets ended up trading exactly what they got in return for Adams, to Houston for Watson. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joewilly12 25,388 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, Icer said: 2 1st Round Picks and extras Bradley McDougald extra. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post prime21 5,885 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, DJF71 said: Leave it to the Jets to not draft him in 2017 only to draft a safety instead who is no longer on the team. Then give away 3 second round draft picks for a QB that they are going to dump. Then to trade three even higher draft picks for a QB they should have drafted with a $40M salary and then give him a roster worse than the one he asked to be traded from. We are not I the position to trade away draft picks. FA's rarely work out for us so we can't say lets just sign this guy or that guy. Yes but that safety is the one that netted the picks so its like Superman reversed the rotation of the earth and we get to do it again 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Paradis 12,891 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 39 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: I'd trade them both 1's and Seattle's 1 next year easily. 50 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Darnold, both firsts this year, next year’s first. You guys are fcked. Seriously.... You wanna talk about HOU's roster being a ways off? WE HAVE THE WORST ROSTER IN THE LEAGUE.... yea lets trade all our capital for Watson. Hi Macc, how are you doing today? 3 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beerfish 35,130 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I like Watson a lot, he is well worth a good price; However just to point out if we are dealing all basically our 1sts over the next two years for him he is coming to a worse version of the team he just left. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QB1 1,683 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I'd give #2 and Darnold, and take some other terrible contract off their books. You guys suggesting we give our entire draft + next years picks are nuts. The texans won 4 games WITH watson this year. You need to factor in how cap ****ed the texans are. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Paradis 12,891 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 There's no easy outs like Watson for this team. Has to be done the hard way. Draft Fields and hit on your picks. Fck this buying a QB bizz 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScarletKnight89 3,596 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 10 minutes ago, SAR I said: Nothing. Rebuilding teams that win Super Bowls have quarterbacks on rookie deals. SAR I Broncos, 49ers, Falcons, Patriots are fairly recent teams off the top of my head that were in or won the Super Bowl with QB's not on rookie deals. If Houston is dumb enough to make Deshaun Watson available, the Jets would be foolish to not be interested. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
long time suffering Jets f 542 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If JD is willing to include the #2 pick in any offer scenario for Watson, he would be a Jet. Other than Jax, no other team can offer such a valuable pick. , 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samtorobby47 5,110 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 6 minutes ago, Paradis said: You guys are fcked. Seriously.... You wanna talk about HOU's roster being a ways off? WE HAVE THE WORST FCKING ROSTER IN THE LEAGUE.... yea lets trade all our capital for Watson. Hi Macc, how are you doing today? Why? That leaves us with Deshaun Watson and still have our #1 next year. You still got the rest of your picks to build with. Either way, this is Madden scenarios, nothing like that is happening. But fun to play out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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