Guilhermezmc Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: Great way to guarantee another 10 years with no playoffs salty tears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bless you....Thank you Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Why would you hire a kid to run a billion dollar corporation? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeerPark Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Bless you....Thank you said: Why would you hire a kid to run a billion dollar corporation? lol because you hired gase who was worst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 14 hours ago, Bless you....Thank you said: Why would you hire a kid to run a billion dollar corporation? lol It all depends on the organizational structure and support. When they HC reports directly to the Lucky Sperm Club and is equal with the GM, you need a better coach to balance that out. If JD or someone else is really the director of football operations, maybe Joe Brady can provide the direction and leadership required of the HC with JD’s backing, provided that he has excellent coordinators. The other Jetsy error, to require the HC to also be a full time coordinator, needs to be corrected. But capable younger guys like McVay and Kingsbury are making it work. I think you either got it or you don’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, varjet said: It all depends on the organizational structure and support. When they HC reports directly to the Lucky Sperm Club and is equal with the GM, you need a better coach to balance that out. If JD or someone else is really the director of football operations, maybe Joe Brady can provide the direction and leadership required of the HC with JD’s backing, provided that he has excellent coordinators. The other Jetsy error, to require the HC to also be a full time coordinator, needs to be corrected. But capable younger guys like McVay and Kingsbury are making it work. I think you either got it or you don’t. And that is the bottom line. In my career I've had managers who have been in the business for 30 years and were horrible . I've also had managers much younger than me that were very effective. Age has nothing to do with it if they are qualified for the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HawkeyeJet Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 13 hours ago, varjet said: It all depends on the organizational structure and support. When they HC reports directly to the Lucky Sperm Club and is equal with the GM, you need a better coach to balance that out. If JD or someone else is really the director of football operations, maybe Joe Brady can provide the direction and leadership required of the HC with JD’s backing, provided that he has excellent coordinators. The other Jetsy error, to require the HC to also be a full time coordinator, needs to be corrected. But capable younger guys like McVay and Kingsbury are making it work. I think you either got it or you don’t. Is Kingsbury making it work? He's went 5-11 and 8-8 and Cardinal fans general aren't big fans. But I do agree with the notion that age shouldn't be a determine factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, heymangold said: One of my top candidates, would be nice if true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 First yeaR nfl oc and positional coach in college 13 months ago? 31? harrrd pass here. Surprised so many are into this. I mean he might be the greatest thing since sliced bread but holy cow what a risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, HighPitch said: First yeaR nfl oc and positional coach in college 13 months ago? 31? harrrd pass here. Surprised so many are into this. I mean he might be the greatest thing since sliced bread but holy cow what a risk I'm totally fine with taking a big swing. Innovation is what matters, not age. He's been coaching since the moment he graduated from college and he has NFL coaching experience at 2 different stops, with a P5 stop in between to develop a # 1 overall pick. He's not some inexperienced kid. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 When you wrote P5, I seriously thought you meant ps5, as in madden experience 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, HighPitch said: When you wrote P5, I seriously thought you meant ps5, as in madden experience I mean I'm sure he shreds on Madden too 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Beerfish said: One of my top candidates, would be nice if true. I never understand who leaks how good or bad a candidate interviews. In this scenario, sounds like Brady’s camp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 It is a risk but if you watched LSU last year. Just a brilliantly constructed offence, innovative play design and phenomenal play calling. Just about everything you did not see with gase the last two years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, HighPitch said: When you wrote P5, I seriously thought you meant ps5, as in madden experience 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I mean I'm sure he shreds on Madden too Gase's Madden and real life playbook: 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 He's as old as McVay was when he got his shot. This is where the league is going, take the shot and see what happens. Definitely better than a retread like Lewis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Icer said: He's as old as McVay was when he got his shot. This is where the league is going, take the shot and see what happens. Definitely better than a retread like Lewis Lewis is a nightmare scenario for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I get the panthers were poor but he did get 4 guys over 1,000 yds this season - in his first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 This seems like a massive boom or bust prospective hire. JD would have some balls on him to tie himself to a 31 year old ‘offensive genius’. Not saying he’d be a bad hire... it just seems like a bigtime gamble 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I think it’ll come down to Brady, Daboll, or Bienemy. Hopefully it’s Brady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I'd be intrigued by Brady. Not my top choice, but by no means a disastrous hire. Unknown, but feels like a low floor/high ceiling candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, Icer said: He's as old as McVay was when he got his shot. This is where the league is going, take the shot and see what happens. Definitely better than a retread like Lewis Agreed. My top choice was Campbell, but if we can't get a proven program builder then taking a shot at a young innovative coach is probably our next best bet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 50 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Is Kingsbury making it work? He's went 5-11 and 8-8 and Cardinal fans general aren't big fans. But I do agree with the notion that age shouldn't be a determine factor. I don’t get Klingsbury When was he ever good Tech was a huge step down with him compared to Leach and Tuberville 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 This guy just doesn’t seem to have the personality to lead an organization and create a culture. He might be a genius OC but will a veteran defensive tackle care what he has to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I fully support Joe Brady because I think being a WR coach at some point really helps develop offensive game planning skills for today's more open game. You understand what you are trying to accomplish with the receivers, and what you can adjust, and it can go a long way. Totally arbitrary list: Urban Meyer (WR coach at Illinois State, Colorado State, Notre Dame) Ryan Day (WR coach at Temple, Boston College, Temple) Dabo Sweeny (WR coach Alabama, Clemson) Mike Leach: (WR coach Valdosta State) Lincoln Riley (WR coach Texas Tech) Dan Mullen (WR coach Wagner, Columbia) Chris Peterson (WR coach UC Davis, Oregon)- technically he stopped coaching now Tom Herman (WR coach Texas Lutheran, Sam Houston State) PJ Fleck (WR coach Northern Illinois, Rutgers, and Tampa Bay Bucs) Gus Malzahn (WR coach Arkansas): Fired, I'm just talking offensive schemes here Mike Gundy (WR coach OK State, Maryland) NFL: Sean Payton: (WR coach Indiana State) Kyle Shanahan: (WR coach Houston Texans) Sean McVay (WR coach Florida Tuskers) Frank Reich (WR coach Colts, Cardinals) Matt LeFleur (WR coach Northern Michigan) Mike Tomlin (WR coach VMI, Arkansas State) Jon Gruden (WR coach Steelers, Packers) Bill Belichick (WR coach Lions) I'm not saying it's a must, but coaches that have been wide receiver coaches have shown to be able to implement offensive systems at a high level these days. This doesn't mean that you need to be a WR coach to know how to adjust defenses (I believe Andy Reid was an OL coach) but I think it certainly can help these days. That experience allows you to see the field through the receivers, and the nuances you need to beat the defender. In a way, it's reverse engineering opportunities for the QB, which translates to better options for the offense. Again, just random musings, but I do like the fact that Brady has this experience, and he's shown to be very good at it as well. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhartonJet Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, win4ever said: I fully support Joe Brady because I think being a WR coach at some point really helps develop offensive game planning skills for today's more open game. You understand what you are trying to accomplish with the receivers, and what you can adjust, and it can go a long way. Totally arbitrary list: Urban Meyer (WR coach at Illinois State, Colorado State, Notre Dame) Ryan Day (WR coach at Temple, Boston College, Temple) Dabo Sweeny (WR coach Alabama, Clemson) Mike Leach: (WR coach Valdosta State) Lincoln Riley (WR coach Texas Tech) Dan Mullen (WR coach Wagner, Columbia) Chris Peterson (WR coach UC Davis, Oregon)- technically he stopped coaching now Tom Herman (WR coach Texas Lutheran, Sam Houston State) PJ Fleck (WR coach Northern Illinois, Rutgers, and Tampa Bay Bucs) Gus Malzahn (WR coach Arkansas): Fired, I'm just talking offensive schemes here Mike Gundy (WR coach OK State, Maryland) NFL: Sean Payton: (WR coach Indiana State) Kyle Shanahan: (WR coach Houston Texans) Sean McVay (WR coach Florida Tuskers) Frank Reich (WR coach Colts, Cardinals) Matt LeFleur (WR coach Northern Michigan) Mike Tomlin (WR coach VMI, Arkansas State) Jon Gruden (WR coach Steelers, Packers) Bill Belichick (WR coach Lions) I'm not saying it's a must, but coaches that have been wide receiver coaches have shown to be able to implement offensive systems at a high level these days. This doesn't mean that you need to be a WR coach to know how to adjust defenses (I believe Andy Reid was an OL coach) but I think it certainly can help these days. That experience allows you to see the field through the receivers, and the nuances you need to beat the defender. In a way, it's reverse engineering opportunities for the QB, which translates to better options for the offense. Again, just random musings, but I do like the fact that Brady has this experience, and he's shown to be very good at it as well. Great info and nice angle regarding WR coach experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 1:50 PM, Drums said: I like Brady and I think he would definitely get the most out of the QB, so I wouldn't hate the hire. However, I wonder if Rhule and Robby would advise against our franchise. And if they did, how much that would weigh on his decision. Either way, I don't think this is JD's first choice but it seems like JD will keep an open mind and I trust him. If he’s listening to RA about life advice, it’s probably better we don’t sign him anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 It's interesting that this guy got ol teddy to look good where we were unable to. Again another candidt that has great potential. Seems everyone we are looking at is about 20 times better than our last head coaching search. Almost as if JD knows what he is doing. It's awesome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: It's interesting that this guy got ol teddy to look good where we were unable to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 hours ago, heymangold said: Well if Woody is impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 10:04 PM, Philc1 said: Greatest 5-11 OC ever Let’s trade for Watson and pair them together and watch those 4-5 win seasons come rolling in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Lfg love me some brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, redlichtie said: Let’s trade for Watson and pair them together and watch those 4-5 win seasons come rolling in Woody probably thinks he interviewed Tom Brady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Smith Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 hours ago, QB1 said: This guy just doesn’t seem to have the personality to lead an organization and create a culture. He might be a genius OC but will a veteran defensive tackle care what he has to say? If he’s rolling out an offense that can give us a lead or keep us in games, people will listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 1:20 PM, David Harris said: Are we going to break the record for most interviews ever? I can’t even keep up I thought the Browns interviewed 15 guys before settling for Freddie Kitchens. I could be wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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