Don't want to jump the gun on this but for discussion purposes...

[football guy 2,083]

Latest I've heard is that a person of interest thinks 49ers DC Robert Saleh will land the job. They cautioned that they haven't been told anything and that the primary decision makers have been pretty secretive, but this was this individual's hunch. There will be follow up meetings and the team is pushing the league to allow for in-person visits, even if the Jets have to go to them. Word is expected from the league within the next 24-48 hours. 

I've been told by someone else to not rule out Brandon Staley. The playoff performance merely improves the media narrative, but the Jets were impressed by all the endorsements he's gotten from those who have worked with him.

Still have interviews scheduled tomorrow and could add a few from the Baltimore tree. Also keep an eye on Press Taylor... if he's fired, Douglas will try to get him on the staff (he won't force it, but I know they're close and he thinks really highly of his football acumen and ability to coach). 

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Don't want to blow up the person who told me because they seemed stern in making it clear that they haven't been told anything and that it was just their opinion, otherwise I'd be more willing to give out who this person works for

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4 minutes ago, heymangold said:

So you have a source in the organization?

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Just now, Anthony Jet said:

Should’ve went with Tom Hagan when Kay gives him a letter for Michael 

Damn. You're 100% right lol

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1 minute ago, heymangold said:

Just say yes so I don’t start talking about how your info is all made up nonsense.

What can I say I'm not a publisher/editorial lol... I don't want to blow the person up. I don't know who reads things on here. 

I guess DM me if you need text receipts

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Personally, I haven't thought it would be Saleh at all. There are no real links between him and those in our front office and our organization. I've been saying Eberflus and Staley. This is a pivot for me, and I'm not 100% sold that this will be the case yet. I think Douglas will be thorough. However, this person never steered me wrong so if this is their opinion it sounds very possible, hence why it's certainly worth discussing. 

If Saleh comes here, the expectation is that he'd bring Mike LaFleur with him as OC. Then the question becomes whether Press Taylor gets fired, and if he does, maybe they would want him on the staff as QB coach. He'd be in demand (especially in CIN), but just something to keep an eye on. 

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2 minutes ago, Jet Life said:

Not hating or doubting you but did you hear from someone credible at least?

They've never steered me wrong. They told me the Jets would draft Hackenberg, they told me the Jets would draft Becton, they've given me a lot of info over the years. That's not to say they've always been right (i.e. they told me the Jets were definitely trading down in 2019 and that never happened, they told me they thought the Jets were going to hire Rhule and that didn't happen), but have always had solid info and opinions. They've made it clear that this is just their hunch, so I don't want to jump the gun but it's absolutely relevant. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. I haven't heard anything about what Saleh feels about it. Kyle Shanahan really likes him, but doesn't mean Saleh does

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21 minutes ago, JTJet said:

@Maxman

Can you attempt to verify if this dude actually has a source? I seem to remember you doing that with someone else in the past.

Dont want to be that guy...but I'm definitely going to be that guy. I think this is a ton of BS, someone just wanting to seem relevant. 

It's sh*t like this that makes me wonder why I even say anything on message boards. 

I welcome @Maxman to verify my sources. Please DM me. 

Going forward I just won't share sh*t

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4 minutes ago, QB1 said:

Not really buying any of this.

Why would joe Douglas and Christopher Johnson need permission from the league to go talk to Saleh in person? 

The jets are putting out tweets after interviews, not sure they would do that if they were planning on more rounds. 

Technically coordinators are not allowed to. I don't know, it sounds stupid to me. Just like the rest of this covid sensationalist nonsense. Also, I never said they wanted to go meet Saleh specifically. They want to meet their finalists for second rounds of interviews, whoever they wind up being. 

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10 minutes ago, jetswinbaby! said:

So now we are to believe that "football guy" ihas some inside Jet source?

Who is "football guy?"

For all we know, "football guy" may not even be a guy...

I'm getting a "Cookiemonsta" vibe here, for those who remember, who would be predicting deadly weather events daily even when the National Weather Service predicted nothing...

Consider me skeptical...

It amazes me how stupid people have become. Read before you speak. 

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4 minutes ago, Jetsbb said:

What does your guy say Douglas wants to do with Darnold?

Sorry- a few people are going to ruin it for everyone, and I see no reason to share info for people to read who are unappreciative skeptics.

Feel free to DM me going forward. I'll be happy to facilitate questions and get back to you

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Just now, FidelioJet said:

Don’t let a few bad apples stop you from sharing.

Most really appreciate you sharing what you have.  Would really love to hear what your source thinks about Darnold.

I've already shared it, a lot of fans on here are just in denial because they can't handle not getting their way. 

People in the FO think there's a strong chance he comes back. 60/40 is the number I was given. A lot will ride on the coach, his trade market, and the trade market of the #2 pick. Many in the NFL believe he's an ultra talented QB who will find a way to be a solid NFL starter. 

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1 minute ago, Joejet said:

I believe that he is saying that they should receive word from the league within 24 to 48 hours  as to whether they can have in person second meetings, not deciding on who the next coach is.

Not only the Jets. It will likely be a publically released bulletin. They have a lot of direct communication with NFL offices, hence why I know the Jets made this request (I'm sure others have too). A lot of former Jets employees work at NFL offices and vice a versa. 

The issue right now is that coordinators under contract with other teams are for whatever reason not allowed to interview in person. Yet, college/former coaches (Marvin Lewis) and unemployed coaches (Urban Meyer) are allowed to interview in person. I don't know the specifics, I just know it's come up. 

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2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Based on what. 

Go look for yourself, I've only posted about 185 posts and screenshots from coaches on what exactly they like about him. 

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16 minutes ago, JTJet said:

Yes. Whining. 

Wanting to know if a random internet poster is someone we should believe. Oh the horror. Let me go wipe tears out of my eyes. 

Why didn't you just DM me and ask instead of trying to cast doubt on my reputation? Douche. Happy to share everything just to prove this narrative wrong. 

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4 minutes ago, JTJet said:

As I said before. Verify the source with Max and it would be fantastic to hear everything you have to say. I dont need any proof for me personally.

I'm going to verify the sources with Max just to clear my name, then I'm not going to share anything publically anymore. I didn't sign up for some conspiracy bs. I get not wanting to fall for phony "reports" that people just make up online, but there's a way to do this and question it, and you did it the wrong way. 

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2 minutes ago, Chrebetfan80 said:

Its a shame that its come to this honestly.  There are a lot of people on here that really appreciate your information, but theres always people that will ruin things for others.  You shouldnt have to jump through hoops defending yourself when youre just trying to give people here information they wouldn't normally get.  

Damn shame

I'm not going anywhere. Just DM me going forward and I'm happy to facilitate questions and come back with responses. I just don't feel the need to post things that will fuel skeptics. They don't deserve any of the info as far as I'm concerned. 

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Since some seem willing to let the narrative sit out there that I could potentially be a fraud, I have gone out of my way to provide dialogue to @Maxman in order to share the backgrounds of a few of my sources. If he requires more information I will be glad to share it, at which point I hope my name could be cleared. 

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3 minutes ago, football guy said:

Since some seem willing to let the narrative sit out there that I could potentially be a fraud, I have gone out of my way to provide dialogue to @Maxman in order to share the backgrounds of a few of my sources. If he requires more information I will be glad to share it, at which point I hope my name could be cleared. 

I also apologize for the name calling. I don't think it's fair that I'm being attacked for this, but that doesn't mean I should be a bigot either. It was wrong. 

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What's funny is now I'm torn: part of me wants Saleh to get announced so that I don't look like an idiot (even though I thought I made it clear I wasn't putting my name on it, just relaying very relevant info from a very relevant source), the other part is hoping he doesn't because I'm not sold on him. 

Another thing: coaching cycles tend to be a game of musical chairs. A lot of candidates are in play for a number of jobs. If Meyer passes on JAX and both the Jets and Jaguars gave him an offer, he'd definitely have a decision to make. 

 

Personally, I don't think it will be Saleh. We shall see. 

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6 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

I want Staley like a fat kid wants cake.  I just want to know what type of offense he wants to run and who his coordinator might be.

Mike LaFleur is the rumor

FWIW he was the best man at Mike's wedding 

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2 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Oh mannnnn, sign me up for that.

I'm sorry I read your post wrong. 

LaFleur-Saleh. 

I too have grown extremely fond of Staley. I think it would be an outside-the-box OC. Dave Ragone is a possibility, and I know Jets fans would be sick with that but what can I say. The good thing about Staley is that McVay loves him so would likely give him some pointers there as Ragone was on the 2015 Redskins staff with him. 

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I hadn't heard much about Joe Brady tbh. I think we're at least another round of interviews away from picking a coach so we'll see. I'm guessing they'll regroup tomorrow and go over the interviews, then come up with how they'd rank them against each other. Probably try to zero in on the top 3 and then see how it unfolds. 

The one thing that has been proven right is that the Jets hire will be an outside-of-the-box hire. It's certainly looking more and more that way by the day.

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18 minutes ago, Jet2020 said:

Mehta’s step twin brother. 

I hate Mehta with a passion so this would suck

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What I find amazing about this is that I literally named the thread “I don’t want to jump the gun on this” and even stated that this is an relevant opinion that has never steered me wrong. This person has not always been right, but they are always informed. I’m not at liberty to share specifics; if I were a publisher or an editorial, maybe it would be different. I’m volunteering info. This person said one thing, meanwhile someone else I’m close with said another thing. I don’t understand what the fuss is about. All I can say is for the @oatmeal’s of the world, you’re ruining it for everyone else.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

No need for this anymore. It’s been dropped. Appreciate your inside info tho. It’s definitely something new & interesting to debate about. 

I’m not even claiming it will be right. The point of a message board is for a community to share dialogue and to post relevant things to talk about. I figured this would be something people would want to talk about. People can’t take my word for it so be it, some people will never be satisfied.

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40 minutes ago, Chrebetfan80 said:

can we talk about the 121 unread texts you have lol WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING MAN?!?! hahah

Bro tell me about it. I’m in a lot of group chats lol

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7 minutes ago, jgb said:

We don't even know if 49ers are interested in Sam. They might not even know, yet. We're hoping/guessing. And also what would the DC have to do with the decision anyway?

Correct. What I do know is that Kyle was extremely high on Sam as a prospect in 2018 and he had very high remarks for him this year. That could’ve been coaches speak for all we know, but people in the know (agents, coaches) believe it to be true and suggest Sam would be a perfect fit in that offense. 

Does that have any relevance to what Saleh would do? Nope. Saleh is his own man and may approach it differently. All I know is that a lot of smart, informed people think he’d be a good fit for that offense and that Kyle Shanahan likes him. Everything else is just dot connecting and assumptions (i.e. Kyle’s offense is LaFleur’s and Kyle is close with LaFleur/Saleh hence his opinion on Sam may influence their decision). 

As far as my spin on it: one thing to keep in mind with Saleh/LaFleur is that when they joined the 49ers, they joined an organization who consciously decided against taking a QB in their first year, passing on Trubisky, Mahomes, and Watson in favor of trading down and taking Solomon Thomas . Their QBs entering the season were Brian Hoyer and CJ Beathard before acquiring Garoppolo mid season. Having seen the result of that decision, would it impact Saleh’s view? No idea... just speculation at this point. 

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Bump

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1 hour ago, Boynton Beach Jets said:

Assuming Bills win this coming weekend and the championship game when is the soonest Daboll can get a second interview?  Is it after championship game or after Super Bowl?

He’s free to. It comes down to his schedule. If he’s a finalist chances are Jets will try to visit him to ease the burden 

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One thing to keep in mind about a potential Saleh hire... 

If Saleh comes here, he's not expected to be a coordinator with a HC title. He'll be involved with the defense in oversight and will help build the scheme, but will likely give the day-to-day responsibilities to his coordinator. The one schematic he'll absolutely bring over: cover 3 press (zone) coverage. The rest of the defensive scheme would likely be predicated on personnel (SF ran both wide-9 and 4-3 under/over hybrid during Saleh's time there). 

Conveniently enough, Aaron Glenn also coaches a lot of press cover 3 down in New Orleans. I don't think the Jets would force a coordinator by any means, but the Saints' have a similar coverage scheme and they have some commonality in that Glenn coached on the same Cleveland Browns staff as Kyle Shanahan and presumptive OC hire Mike LaFleur or Mike McDaniel in 2014. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Glenn were hired to coordinate the defense. Could also see Saleh reaching out to Todd Walsh as his DL coach/run game coordinator once he's officially fired (if he's fired). 

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28 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

This is great stuff.  Wondering how saleh would view an offensive scheme, and whether that would favor darnold or wilson who i think is well suited for a quick tempo offense like the 49ers have.

Absolutely would be expected to bring one of Mike LaFleur or Mike McDaniel with him. I'm not sure if the 49ers can block such a move anymore, and even if they could, 49ers aren't going to block both... they'll do Saleh a solid and grant one leaving, especially considering they're collecting future draft picks for Saleh. That would mean the Shanahan-style WCO. 

Mike McDaniel is the preferred hire because he's been the brains behind a lot of the exotic schematics/concepts in SF, specifically their running scheme, but he's a "QB guru" himself. I know Douglas loves Press Taylor, but he's not going to force him onto the staff. Rich Scangarello is a name to monitor as QB coach/passing game coordinator if Saleh is hired. Will Harriger could be in line to be the RB coach or assistant QBs. 

As far as whether it improves Darnold's chances of returning... without any knowledge I would say it keeps them at the 60/40 likelihood. I think his best professional scheme in the short-term is a Shanahan-style WCO. 

40 minutes ago, KRL said:

Any chance Dennard Wilson or Brant Boyer are retained on the new staff.
From my observations of them they're good coaches

I think their at the end of the line. Good coaches, but likely headed in different directions. I think almost all coaches will be freed from their contracts with exception to a few offensive/defensive assistants. 

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DeMeco Ryans has been mentioned as a successor to Robert Saleh as DC in SF if Saleh were to leave, but wonder if he'd join Saleh as his DC instead. Saleh coached him with the Texans from 2006-2010 speaks highly of him, suggesting he'd be a HC one day.