blueraider2539 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I found out the other day that dak prescott will be an unrestricted FA. Wouldnt it make sense to sign him even though he is coming off an injury, he is still in his prime and use the #2 pick and grab devonta smith and possible najee harries with the #27 pick then build the OL in the later rounds. Just a thought. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 That ankle injury is no joke and it was on his plant leg which can possibly interfere with his throwing mechanics from now on i don’t think he returns to football until 2022. I wouldn’t go near him unless it was at a massive discount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2021 He'll be franchised again. Basically Cowboys will give him a very lucrative 1-year prove it deal. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAR I Posted January 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2021 We need a reset to a QB on a rookie deal which would give us a big advantage on the likes of the Ravens, Browns, and Bills who are about to get strapped with max deals and whose playoff spots we need to take. This would be the opposite. SAR I 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 No. No Prescott and no Watson. Nothing against them but if we are starting over at QB we need a young in a rookie deal. I don’t want to trade assets to get a QB or a coach. We have too many holes we need to fill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, SAR I said: We need a reset to a QB on a rookie deal which would give us a big advantage on the likes of the Ravens, Browns, and Bills who are about to get strapped with max deals and whose playoff spots we need to take. This would be the opposite. SAR I 15 minutes ago, Jets723 said: No. No Prescott and no Watson. Nothing against them but if we are starting over at QB we need a young in a rookie deal. I don’t want to trade assets to get a QB or a coach. We have too many holes we need to fill The best deal in sport is a legit FQB. Even at $40M/year. Nuk and Joey Bosa each make $27M on a per year basis. Mahomes makes $50M. Mahomes is much more than 2x as impactful as either of those guys. IF we got either of these dudes, JD would be wise to restructure and accelerate a lot of their salary to a 2021 bonus, when we have tons of cap space -- not the mention the $10M we free up by trading Sam. This would give us a FQB on a very team-friendly contract in 2022 and beyond. We also have no in-house talent worthy of a big extension in the next several years. Unlike, say, the Jags, who have more space but they have some talent getting close to extension time. From a cap perspective, we're in the best position in the NFL to trade for a FQB. Still don't believe either will shake loose, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KRL Posted January 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2021 I repeat the Jets aren't one player away, it would be stupid to destroy our cap flexibility on a big $$$ QB when we still need: - To shore up RG & RT - A WR - A CB - At least 2 edge rushers If we make these proposed deals we would become just like DET & HOU. Teams with stat producing QB's who don't win, no thanks 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 injury or not dak is going to want a boatload and basically he hasn't won with a stacked team. there are better fish in the sea. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, blueraider2539 said: I found out the other day that dak prescott will be an unrestricted FA. Wouldnt it make sense to sign him even though he is coming off an injury, he is still in his prime and use the #2 pick and grab devonta smith and possible najee harries with the #27 pick then build the OL in the later rounds. Just a thought. This is a pretty poor start for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, Philc1 said: That ankle injury is no joke and it was on his plant leg which can possibly interfere with his throwing mechanics from now on i don’t think he returns to football until 2022. I wouldn’t go near him unless it was at a massive discount I rather kick the tires with a Dak, that has a flat, than deal with another season of bottom 5 QB play, 3 seasons of that trash has been enough ?♂️ 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, KRL said: I repeat the Jets aren't one player away, it would be stupid to destroy our cap flexibility on a big $$$ QB when we still need: - To shore up RG & RT - A WR - A CB - At least 2 edge rushers If we make these proposed deals we would become just like DET & HOU. Teams with stat producing QB's who don't win, no thanks For some Jets fans, the future is always a season away. 16 of the last 20 SBs have been won by a HOF or HOF-bound QB. 19 of 20 by a QB with at least one pro bowl appearance. Getting a good QB is rebuilding. Granted in a perfect world sure I'd prefer a good QB on a rookie deal. But anyone can bust... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, KRL said: I repeat the Jets aren't one player away, it would be stupid to destroy our cap flexibility on a big $$$ QB when we still need: - To shore up RG & RT - A WR - A CB - At least 2 edge rushers If we make these proposed deals we would become just like DET & HOU. Teams with stat producing QB's who don't win, no thanks This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 The cowboys will not let him go to free agency. They'll use the franchise tag on him and try to work out a contract. If not, he'll play another season on the franchise tag. If he plays poorly or the cowboys just arent sold, he'd have a chance to take the Cousins route and hit free agency in 2022 but he won't be available this year as a Free agent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Not worth what he was asking and now he is damaged goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Dak was a top-15, maybe top-10 QB who wants to be paid like a top-2 QB. Pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Kind of signing that I wouldn't want until it happens and then it's hype time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, jgb said: For some Jets fans, the future is always a season away. 16 of the last 20 SBs have been won by a HOF or HOF-bound QB. 19 of 20 by a QB with at least one pro bowl appearance. Getting a good QB is rebuilding. Granted in a perfect world sure I'd prefer a good QB on a rookie deal. But anyone can bust... The trouble is you'd be wasting that good QB on a sheeyt team for the next couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, nycdan said: Dak was a top-15, maybe top-10 QB who wants to be paid like a top-2 QB. Pass. The Goff contract messed up the negotiations a lot. Dak wanted more than Goff, because he was (pre injury) much better than Goff. Then it was about years, Dak wanted 4, Cowboys wanted 5. Then his ankle fell off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, peebag said: The trouble is you'd be wasting that good QB on a sheeyt team for the next couple of years. Better to waste until you need than need until you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, jgb said: Better to waste until you need than need until you can get. Say that 3 times quick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Here are the top-12 QB contract situations currently: Player Team Age Total Value Avg./Year Total Guaranteed Fully Guaranteed Free Agency Patrick Mahomes Chiefs 26 $450,000,000 $45,000,000 $141,000,000 $63,081,905 2032 UFA Deshaun Watson Texans 26 $156,000,000 $39,000,000 $111,894,247 $74,894,247 2026 UFA Russell Wilson Seahawks 33 $140,000,000 $35,000,000 $107,000,000 $70,000,000 2024 UFA Ben Roethlisberger Steelers 39 $68,000,000 $34,000,000 $50,000,000 $37,500,000 2022 UFA Aaron Rodgers Packers 38 $134,000,000 $33,500,000 $98,200,000 $78,700,000 2024 UFA Jared Goff Rams 27 $134,000,000 $33,500,000 $110,042,682 $57,042,682 2025 UFA Kirk Cousins Vikings 33 $66,000,000 $33,000,000 $96,000,000 $61,000,000 2023 UFA Carson Wentz Eagles 29 $128,000,000 $32,000,000 $107,870,683 $66,470,683 2025 UFA Dak Prescott Cowboys 28 $31,409,000 $31,409,000 $31,409,000 $31,409,000 2021 UFA Matt Ryan Falcons 36 $150,000,000 $30,000,000 $100,000,000 $94,500,000 2024 UFA Ryan Tannehill Titans 33 $118,000,000 $29,500,000 $91,000,000 $62,000,000 2024 UFA And Mahomes and Watson, at least, signed those extensions after Prescott's last round of negotiations. So where does he belong? Pre-injury, I'd say it would be a slight stretch to put him at $35M/year. That's north of where Rodgers and Ben were and even with Wilson. Looking back to before this season, Prescott was probably more in the Wentz/Ryan/Cousins territory. Cousins is probably a great comp since they both do well on good teams but nothing in the playoffs. Now it's a bit trickier since Wilson and Roethlisberger both crapped the bed, but I still would be shocked if he got more than Rodgers and Goff. And then you have to factor in the ankle, which DAL should and Prescott won't. If Jerry didn't have a long history of caving, I'd say this deal never happens, but with Jerry, who knows. But if Prescott is actually looking for $40M/year which the rumors suggested, that would put him above Watson and that's where things go off the rails. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, SAR I said: We need a reset to a QB on a rookie deal which would give us a big advantage on the likes of the Ravens, Browns, and Bills who are about to get strapped with max deals and whose playoff spots we need to take. This would be the opposite. SAR I I have to agree with SAR. Paying $40 Mil per year to a QB that hasn't won anything ever isn't a good idea. Need to get a rookie on a cheap rookie deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 22 hours ago, oatmeal said: I rather kick the tires with a Dak, that has a flat, than deal with another season of bottom 5 QB play, 3 seasons of that trash has been enough ?♂️ I think we are becoming a little too confident that QBs can comeback from horrific leg injuries because Bridgewater and Alex Smith came back and were...ok Throwing Mechanics for a QB is everything it’s just as important as reading defenses. There’s no way we can give Dak a big contract now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueraider2539 Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 7:32 AM, More Cowbell said: This is a pretty poor start for you. Not really. like everyone else throwing ideas that could potentially help the team, like douglas will listen to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Dak was a top-15, maybe top-10 QB who wants to be paid like a top-2 QB. Pass.Zak had the Great Wall of China blocking for him and also had Elliot. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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heymangold Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I like dak. He gets a ton of sh!t for being a cowboy, but he’s a good qb. If the Jets were more win now, I’d say go with him. Right now it doesn’t make sense. imo there’s Mahomes, Rogers, Watson and then Dak. Who knows if the injury will change how he plays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 10:01 AM, nycdan said: Here are the top-12 QB contract situations currently: Player Team Age Total Value Avg./Year Total Guaranteed Fully Guaranteed Free Agency Patrick Mahomes Chiefs 26 $450,000,000 $45,000,000 $141,000,000 $63,081,905 2032 UFA Deshaun Watson Texans 26 $156,000,000 $39,000,000 $111,894,247 $74,894,247 2026 UFA Russell Wilson Seahawks 33 $140,000,000 $35,000,000 $107,000,000 $70,000,000 2024 UFA Ben Roethlisberger Steelers 39 $68,000,000 $34,000,000 $50,000,000 $37,500,000 2022 UFA Aaron Rodgers Packers 38 $134,000,000 $33,500,000 $98,200,000 $78,700,000 2024 UFA Jared Goff Rams 27 $134,000,000 $33,500,000 $110,042,682 $57,042,682 2025 UFA Kirk Cousins Vikings 33 $66,000,000 $33,000,000 $96,000,000 $61,000,000 2023 UFA Carson Wentz Eagles 29 $128,000,000 $32,000,000 $107,870,683 $66,470,683 2025 UFA Dak Prescott Cowboys 28 $31,409,000 $31,409,000 $31,409,000 $31,409,000 2021 UFA Matt Ryan Falcons 36 $150,000,000 $30,000,000 $100,000,000 $94,500,000 2024 UFA Ryan Tannehill Titans 33 $118,000,000 $29,500,000 $91,000,000 $62,000,000 2024 UFA And Mahomes and Watson, at least, signed those extensions after Prescott's last round of negotiations. So where does he belong? Pre-injury, I'd say it would be a slight stretch to put him at $35M/year. That's north of where Rodgers and Ben were and even with Wilson. Looking back to before this season, Prescott was probably more in the Wentz/Ryan/Cousins territory. Cousins is probably a great comp since they both do well on good teams but nothing in the playoffs. Now it's a bit trickier since Wilson and Roethlisberger both crapped the bed, but I still would be shocked if he got more than Rodgers and Goff. And then you have to factor in the ankle, which DAL should and Prescott won't. If Jerry didn't have a long history of caving, I'd say this deal never happens, but with Jerry, who knows. But if Prescott is actually looking for $40M/year which the rumors suggested, that would put him above Watson and that's where things go off the rails. I love seeing charts like this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, blueraider2539 said: Not really. like everyone else throwing ideas that could potentially help the team, like douglas will listen to us. You might benefit from reading the board and knowing peoples thoughts before suggesting signing an injured QB who is due a huge pay increase as the route to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 7:05 AM, Philc1 said: That ankle injury is no joke and it was on his plant leg which can possibly interfere with his throwing mechanics from now on i don’t think he returns to football until 2022. I wouldn’t go near him unless it was at a massive discount How do you think the Dolphins feel about not signing a QB with a dislocated throwing shoulder in Brees? Obviously you do your due diligence with Dak but if he’s even at 70%, that’s would instantly make him the Jets best QB since, well Joe Namath. If he’s healed, and he should be healed soon, he can tear it up, metaphorically, with D Smith and Allen Robinson. I’m all for exploring this possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Prescott was demanding to be paid as the highest paid player in history he is less of a team player than revis. Dak also has a poor playoff record with a far superior roster than what we have right now.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 8:18 AM, Jets723 said: We have too many holes we need to fill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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