Jetster Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, jgb said: I. Do. Not. Care. Now you don't get cute. Give the man an offer that signifies confidence and respect. Don't eff this up Johnsons! I was being facetious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 hire him today 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetster said: I was being facetious Well played. When talking about Woody's cheapness, it's impossible to differentiate sarcasm from observation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 So it appears that Wentz/Roseman won out over Pederson. never good when your star QB hates the QB and vice versa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: And that is where the similarities between the 2 end. Tell me....how much of this post-Super Bowl record for Pederson can be attributed to Howie Roseman setting the roster on fire? No, it's not. You've also got the whole "their own players hate them" thing. Roseman has been awful since the Super Bowl. He also built the team that won it. Would you want to hire him if he became available? Dude built a Super Bowl winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I don't want Pederson. I just hope Philly is not interested in same candidate we are interested inPhilly situation is worse than ours, I think. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Guess what a Jet fans? THE BANDS GETTING BACK TOGETHER!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Let's assume you're right, although I'm not yet convinced. What do you think Dougie Fresh and Joe Dougie want to do at QB? Go after Nick Foles, Draft a QB later, roll with Darnold, some combination of all? My personal opinion is that Pederson would likely want to mold a QB from scratch. I think he tries to bring in Nick Foles AND he wants to draft a QB like Wilson or Fields at #2. There are 2-3 other OT's that are 1st round worthy in ADDITION TO Sewell and we already have Becton. I think the Jets Draft an OT at #23 (Sam Cosmi) or later (Alex Leatherwood). Pederson had Hurts playing pretty well. If the the Doug & Douglas show thinks ANY of Fields, Wilson or Lance are better than Hurts then they'll pull the trigger and start fresh. Exactly what i was thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Guess what a Jet fans? THE BANDS GETTING BACK TOGETHER!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMo Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, section314 said: Putting Wentz and his sorry ass on the bench is what did him in. Supposedly Wentz is the most influential person in the organization other than the owner. So dumb. They don’t need to look further than one Daniel Snyder to see how choosing a young petulant QB over a coach who turned the team around can backfire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Scott Dierking said: So it appears that Wentz/Roseman won out over Pederson. never good when your star QB hates the QB and vice versa Or maybe the coach had the balls to say that his money making QB, Wentz, is just not the future of the team. They said he was tired of being told what to do. Maybe they they preferred him not to make that move to Jalen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Jetster said: Guess what a Jet fans? THE BANDS GETTING BACK TOGETHER!!! Looks like JD and DP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Bruce Harper said: Philly situation is worse than ours, I think. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app It's worse than Detroit, and that's really saying something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Troll said: No, it's not. You've also got the whole "their own players hate them" thing. Roseman has been awful since the Super Bowl. He also built the team that won it. Would you want to hire him if he became available? Dude built a Super Bowl winner! Prior to the last game of this season (players apparently didn't like how he managed it), where did it say the players hated him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayzor Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, section314 said: Putting Wentz and his sorry ass on the bench is what did him in. Supposedly Wentz is the most influential person in the organization other than the owner. So it's the irreparable damage done between him and Wentz and since the organization is financially handcuffed to Wentz, Pederson had to go. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I like Pederson! Philly entire Oline was aging & 4 of them were hurt this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Looks like JD and DP We just need Matt"guitar" Murphy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Jetster said: I like Pederson! Philly entire Oline was aging & 4 of them were hurt this year. Weaponz/supporting cast excuse only works for Jets QBs. Catch up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Why does Doug Pederson always look so old and tired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, rayzor said: So it's the irreparable damage done between him and Wentz and since the organization is financially handcuffed to Wentz, Pederson had to go. It sounds like it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, jetstream23 said: Why does Doug Pederson always look so old and tired? He's tired of all that winning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Icer said: How is the Gase comparison not apt? You have players in the media openly calling him out, poisoned his relationship with his star QB to the point that was publicized as being 'irreparable'. Squeaked into the playoffs with loaded rosters two years in a row after the miracle Super Bowl whilst playing in the weakest division in the entirety of the NFL. His QB has gone from a star under Reich to a complete bust under his tutelage, and haven't we learned that coaches who get fired and re-hired a week later don't learn anything? Pederson won a SB and won the division the very next season, too. Gase went 0-1 in the playoffs. When it comes to "poisoning relationships", this was overblown with Gase but not so much Pederson. The big takeaway, however, is that much of this "poisoning" was due to Wentz, not Pederson. Pederson helped Wentz put up big numbers his first 3 seasons in the league, yet all reports suggest Wentz is a jerk who doesn't listen to coaches and improvises too often to the team's detriment. He also alienates his teammates. Meanwhile, the ownership/front office still wants to stick with Wentz while Pederson was ready to move on. Obviously that led to Wentz feeling more "emboldened" to tell Pederson to essentially f**k off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetsfan4life90 said: Prior to the last game of this season (players apparently didn't like how he managed it), where did it say the players hated him? Those same players will love playing for Gase! No one will want that job! Old injured over the cap team! With an overpaid bad QB on the bench! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, section314 said: We just need Matt"guitar" Murphy. Frank Gore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Have to imagine that this possibility has already been discussed at Florham Park. With Philly's rumblings about Pederson in recent weeks I'd be shocked if Chris Johnson didn't at least say to JD, "So if Pederson shakes loose in Philly would we put him on the candidate list?" 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Pederson won a SB and won the division the very next season, too. Gase went 0-1 in the playoffs. When it comes to "poisoning relationships", this was overblown with Gase but not so much Pederson. The big takeaway, however, is that much of this "poisoning" was due to Wentz, not Pederson. Pederson helped Wentz put up big numbers his first 3 seasons in the league, yet all reports suggest Wentz is a jerk who doesn't listen to coaches and improvises too often to the team's detriment. He also alienates his teammates. Meanwhile, the ownership/front office still wants to stick with Wentz while Pederson was ready to move on. Obviously that led to Wentz feeling more "emboldened" to tell Pederson to essentially f**k off. This is the type of HC I'd never thought we'd get again. Absolute, grand slam, no-brainer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, jgb said: He's tired of all that winning? You're on fire today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, jgb said: Weaponz/supporting cast excuse only works for Jets QBs. Catch up. He actually made Hurts look pretty good! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Well one things for sure. We at least have a good crop of coaches to choose from. Not everyone will be happy with whoever we choose but I think we will have a promising coach next year whether it be a first timer or a vet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Eagles' offensive rank under Doug Pederson 2016: 19th 2017: 5th 2018: 13th 2019: 16th 2020: 29th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Troll said: No, it's not. You've also got the whole "their own players hate them" thing. Roseman has been awful since the Super Bowl. He also built the team that won it. Would you want to hire him if he became available? Dude built a Super Bowl winner! It's no coincidence that Roseman stopped making good decisions the moment Joe Douglas left the building. Douglas got tired of not being listened to there. They are now $50M+ over the cap entering the offseason. Whatever good things Roseman brought to the table are effectively neutralized by that fact. His 2019 draft was god awful and the Wentz and Alshon Jeffery contracts are abominations. Roseman sucks. Also, Pederson's players don't "hate" him. Stop it. Even if they don't like him, who cares? You're not always supposed to like your boss. If he's good at what he does it doesn't matter a whole lot, outside of a couple free agents not coming to play for you. Lots of players hated Parcells and Belichick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 JD knows him well.. For better or worse, we're all-in on Joe. if he likes him then make him the guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetster said: He actually made Hurts look pretty good! He did??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: It's no coincidence that Roseman stopped making good decisions the moment Joe Douglas left the building. They are now $50M+ over the cap entering the offseason. Whatever good things Roseman brought to the table are effectively neutralized. Roseman sucks. That settles it. I'm eating eagle instead of turkey for Thanksgiving going forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Philly situation is worse than ours, I think. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I agree Philly is a mess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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