section314 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: Have to imagine that this possibility has already been discussed at Florham Park. With Philly's rumblings about Pederson in recent weeks I'd be shocked if Chris Johnson didn't at least say to JD, "So if Pederson shakes loose in Philly would we put him on the candidate list?" From my professional career, most good executives have a short "wish list" of people they would be very interested in if they were to shake lose from their current situation. I have to believe it's no different in the NFL, especially for someone like JD who had a mentor like Ozzie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan4life90 said: Prior to the last game of this season (players apparently didn't like how he managed it), where did it say the players hated him? I'm reading tea leaves. He absolutely lost the team when he did that. That tells me his grip on the team wasn't all that tight to begin with. Becton also liked a tweet yesterday that was against Pederson coming here. That indicates to me that Pederson does not have a sterling reputation among players. Is it 100% just recency bias and backlash of his SNF tank job? Maybe, but I have a hard time believing that, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Troll said: I'm reading tea leaves. He absolutely lost the team when he did that. That tells me his grip on the team wasn't all that tight to begin with. Becton also liked a tweet yesterday that was against Pederson coming here. That indicates to me that Pederson does not have a sterling reputation among players. Is it 100% just recency bias and backlash of his SNF tank job? Maybe, but I have a hard time believing that, lol. He never "lost the team". The tanking sh*t is completely overblown. He lost support from an ownership/front office that wanted to stick with Wentz. Lurie is a complete dumbf*ck. Fire Pederson, fine. But Roseman 100 % needed to go first. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Troll said: I'm reading tea leaves. He absolutely lost the team when he did that. That tells me his grip on the team wasn't all that tight to begin with. Becton also liked a tweet yesterday that was against Pederson coming here. That indicates to me that Pederson does not have a sterling reputation among players. Is it 100% just recency bias and backlash of his SNF tank job? Maybe, but I have a hard time believing that, Becton liked a tweet? lol so now the Jets are making moves because Becton liked a tweet? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Icer said: How is the Gase comparison not apt? You have players in the media openly calling him out, poisoned his relationship with his star QB to the point that was publicized as being 'irreparable'. Squeaked into the playoffs with loaded rosters two years in a row after the miracle Super Bowl whilst playing in the weakest division in the entirety of the NFL. His QB has gone from a star under Reich to a complete bust under his tutelage, and haven't we learned that coaches who get fired and re-hired a week later don't learn anything? You do realize that Wentz got his head smashed and was never the same player? He has not been able to process info the same? it’s not coaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Joe Jets fan said: You do realize that Wentz got his head smashed and was never the same player? He has not been able to process info the same? it’s not coaching Carson has been in a downward spiral since Reich left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guilhermezmc Posted January 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2021 We need our boyz @Mogglez and @football guy on the case asap. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol. He never "lost the team". The tanking sh*t is completely overblown. He lost support from an ownership/front office that wanted to stick with Wentz. Lurie is a complete dumbf*ck. Fire Pederson, fine. But Roseman 100 % needed to go first. Was in motion ever since it became Wentz vs Doug Pederson. Everything else is window dressing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Eagles' offensive rank under Doug Pederson 2016: 19th 2017: 5th 2018: 13th 2019: 16th 2020: 29th Looks alot like Adam Gase's trajectory without Peyton Throw in a couple 31/32's with Sam Darnold or equivalent bust and its a mirror image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 He's gonna have offers to interview swarming in like mosquitos at a Georgia picnic. Giddy up JD! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Carson has been in a downward spiral since Reich left. 33/7 TD:INT ratio with Reich. 21/7 and 27/7 without Reich. Worse under Reich? Sure. Downward spiral? Not so much. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 The situation in Philly has to be complete chaos. Gase and Macc weren't the only clown show. It seems as if Pederson provoked (tanked?) the Eagles in order to be fired. If so, his reputation takes a hit but he gains his freedom while keeping his paycheck due from the Eagles. He may well have earned some time on the shelf as a result. That may be what he wants. Yes, JD worked with Pederson and may have a great relationship. But he also has a relationship with Roseman. How does that play out? What is great about the NFL is that we get as close a view of this managerial comic strip as we are ever going to get. Grab your popcorn and keep watching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: We need our boyz @Mogglez and @football guy on the case asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol. He never "lost the team". The tanking sh*t is completely overblown. He lost support from an ownership/front office that wanted to stick with Wentz. Lurie is a complete dumbf*ck. Fire Pederson, fine. But Roseman 100 % needed to go first. Roseman is no plum, but that is whom Lurie has stood beside. he brushed him aside for Chip Kelly, but since has been the fair haired child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut Jet Penalty Makers Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Him getting fired is more proof that putting in Sudfield was a rogue move...and the reasons behind it not truthful...I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said: Roseman is no plum, but that is whom Lurie has stood beside. he brushed him aside for Chip Kelly, but since has been the fair haired child. Exactly. Pederson >>>> Roseman at their respective jobs. Hence why I think Pederson deserves a 2nd chance in this league. He was just made to be an undeserving scapegoat. He's not my top candidate but he's up there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 https://thespun.com/nfl/nfc-east/philadelphia-eagles/eagles-players-doug-pederson-restrained-news Some of Pederson’s players were pretty upset with him, too. The Eagles head coach made several puzzling decisions in the Week 17 game. Philadelphia had already been eliminated from the playoffs and it showed, as Pederson didn’t seem to care about the result. This infuriated the New York Giants, who needed Philadelphia to upset Washington to make the playoffs. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, two Eagles players had to be restrained from approaching Pederson in the locker room after the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Eagles' offensive rank under Doug Pederson 2016: 19th 2017: 5th 2018: 13th 2019: 16th 2020: 29th I would kill for the 16th ranked offense right about now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: It's no coincidence that Roseman stopped making good decisions the moment Joe Douglas left the building. Douglas got tired of not being listened to there. They are now $50M+ over the cap entering the offseason. Whatever good things Roseman brought to the table are effectively neutralized by that fact. His 2019 draft was god awful and the Wentz and Alshon Jeffery contracts are abominations. Roseman sucks. Also, Pederson's players don't "hate" him. Stop it. Even if they don't like him, who cares? You're not always supposed to like your boss. If he's good at what he does it doesn't matter one iota. Lots of players hated Parcells. What relevancy does Bill Parcells have to today's athlete? He hasn't coached in 15 years. If you want recent examples of coaches that were thought of as giant dickheads by their own players, look at Gase, Patricia, and O'Brien. Now I'm not saying Pederson 100% fits into this category, but there's certainly smoke there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 What a bloody gift. All JD has to do is not burn down the Christmas tree before opening it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Roseman is no plum, but that is whom Lurie has stood beside. he brushed him aside for Chip Kelly, but since has been the fair haired child. Well, to be fair, Chip Kelly had a better winning percentage than Pederson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: 33/7 TD:INT ratio with Reich. 21:7 and 27:7 without Reich. Worse under Reich? Sure. Downward spiral? Not so much. You conveniently left off this year's stats: 16 TD/15 Int. Yes, downward spiral. Not good for what was a top 5 qb pick for the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Troll said: Well, to be fair, Chip Kelly had a better winning percentage than Pederson. how many super bowls Chip Kelly won? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said: You conveniently left off this year's stats: 16 TD/15 Int. Yes, downward spiral. Not good for what was a top 5 qb pick for the franchise. So 3 years of solid play and 1 year of terrible play constitutes a "spiral"? And that blame falls on Pederson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, fusionCA said: Becton liked a tweet? lol so now the Jets are making moves because Becton liked a tweet? Did I say that, Braun Strawman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: So 3 years of solid play and 1 year of terrible play constitutes a "spiral"? And that blame falls on Pederson? If you want to delude yourself that the Eagles offense, and specifically QB play has not been worse without Frank Reich in Philadelphia, have at it. The stats say otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, fusionCA said: how many super bowls Chip Kelly won? How many times has Chip Kelly got fired today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I won't have a problem with Pederson being hired, he's won a SB and that can't be ignored. I would think he'll get an interview but with the amount of candidates Douglas has already seen Pederson may not be a favorite. If a candidate has "blown him away" Douglas may lean toward them to set his mark on the team at HC and QB. We'll see 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, The Troll said: Did I say that, Braun Strawman? you say it like it means something while in reality Becton tweets dont mean nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Scott Dierking said: If you want to delude yourself that the Eagles offense, and specifically QB play has not been worse without Frank Reich in Philadelphia, have at it. The stats say otherwise. The stats say he was very good under Reich and good the 2 years after Reich. A coach-driven "spiral", he did not suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, addage said: The situation in Philly has to be complete chaos. Gase and Macc weren't the only clown show. It seems as if Pederson provoked (tanked?) the Eagles in order to be fired. If so, his reputation takes a hit but he gains his freedom while keeping his paycheck due from the Eagles. He may well have earned some time on the shelf as a result. That may be what he wants. Yes, JD worked with Pederson and may have a great relationship. But he also has a relationship with Roseman. How does that play out? What is great about the NFL is that we get as close a view of this managerial comic strip as we are ever going to get. Grab your popcorn and keep watching. Great post. I agree. I think Pederson shot his way out of Philly (we don't know why yet), but JD does have a relationship with the rest of that org and any inclination that Pederson did it so he could get the Jets job would look bad for JD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Why did they wait so long, now philly is behind in a coaching search and pederson is at a disadvantage as well. I'd like to see him interviewed, he is not in the prime list of coaches i want but he is i the 2nd tier. As for the whole 'tanking' outrage. When philly gets to pick devonta smith or jamarr chase or kyle pitts instead of some pass rusher that has sat out the whole year. people will forget about that in a hurry. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, The Troll said: How many times has Chip Kelly got fired today? chip kelly got fired from the Eagles the same amount of times Pederson was fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, jgb said: What a bloody gift. All JD has to do is not burn down the Christmas tree before opening it. Remember this is the Jets you're talking about. Suddenly Joe Douglas turns into Miss Havisham. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: The stats say he was very good under Reich and good the 2 years after Reich. A "spiral", he did not suffer. You know who had the same QB rating as Carson Wentz this year? Sam Darnold. Yes, Sam Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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