Ruby2 2,410 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Vrabel never coached under him Flores is 0 for 2 making the playoffs, successful coaches usually make the playoffs by year 2 Judge was 6-10, he had a first season worse than Gase had here in year 1 Fair point on Vrabel, but Flores and Judge still seem like legit coaches to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeet Ulrich 2,000 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, Ruby2 said: Fair point on Vrabel, but Flores and Judge still seem like legit coaches to me. I like Judge, but he went 6-10 in one of the worst divisions since divisional play was reformatted in 2002. I'm not giving him bouquets for still being in contention on week 17 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby2 2,410 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: I like Judge, but he went 6-10 in one of the worst divisions since divisional play was reformatted in 2002. I'm not giving him bouquets for still being in contention on week 17 I cant argue against that, I just think it will take time considering how poor a team the giants were going into the season. Not saying he's a hit at this point, just that i wouldnt be surprised if he ends up a decent to good coach based on what ive seen. Belli busts like Patricia, Weiss etc were in over their head immediately. Dont get that feeling with Judge or Flores. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeet Ulrich 2,000 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Ruby2 said: I cant argue against that, I just think it will take time considering how poor a team the giants were going into the season. Not saying he's a hit at this point, just that i wouldnt be surprised if he ends up a decent to good coach based on what ive seen. Belli busts like Patricia, Weiss etc were in over their head immediately. Dont get that feeling with Judge or Flores. I think there's something to be said about Special Teams coordinators and translating into good HCs. Only two people address the entire team. The Head Coach and the ST coach. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgb 27,749 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I'm cool with either but if it's Daboll let's please don't make "Daboli" a thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Embrace the Suck 3,103 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, Jet Nut said: And yet there are questions about him. Its not cut and dry. It also might help his consideration for the job if he is actually interviewed. Everyone has questions about them. Yeah, an interview or offer of such is always a good start. Recruiting must suck right now. "Bob, would you like a contact-less lap dance, the stripper is in a full body latex suit that they wipe down after every dance so you're good. Yeah Bob, I know, the 6' plastic wall between you and them does indeed take away the charm". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nyjunc 10,906 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Ruby2 said: Fair point on Vrabel, but Flores and Judge still seem like legit coaches to me. They have shown signs of being good coaches but they have to get results, so far that haven't done that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheNuuFaaolaExperience 2,136 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, jetswinbaby! said: Yeah... You know... Vinny Daboli... Daboll's cousin from Brooklyn... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slimjasi 10,316 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, nyjunc said: Judge was 6-10, he had a first season worse than Gase had here in year 1 But the NY media LOVES him, lol. Never seen a more celebrated 6-10 coach in NY. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nyjunc 10,906 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, slimjasi said: But the NY media LOVES him, lol. Never seen a more celebrated 6-10 coach in NY. I thought he did a decent job but they were all 1-7 then finished 6-10, Gase was 1-7 then finished 7-9 his first season and Gase was skewered while Judge celebrated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slimjasi 10,316 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, nyjunc said: I thought he did a decent job but they were all 1-7 then finished 6-10, Gase was 1-7 then finished 7-9 his first season and Gase was skewered while Judge celebrated. Gase's perception was hurt by several lopsided and/or embarrassing losses early in his tenure (two blowout losses to the pats - one on national tv, a blowout loss in philly, a blowout loss to the browns on national tv, and a loss to the previously winless dolphins), but I agree with you. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TNJet 7,373 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Stromboli. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the Claw 406 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 14 hours ago, Philc1 said: But do you like Stromboli I prefer Stromboll. Better with project QBs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TNJet 7,373 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Stromboli >> Pedophile Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UntouchableCrew 6,074 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/12/2021 at 12:18 PM, nyjunc said: Flores is 0 for 2 making the playoffs, successful coaches usually make the playoffs by year 2 Eh, 10-6 makes the playoffs most years, conference was unusually strong. I think Flores has shown enough in a short period of time to suggest he knows what he's doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 13,530 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/12/2021 at 11:28 PM, slimjasi said: But the NY media LOVES him, lol. Never seen a more celebrated 6-10 coach in NY. Because the local media is all giants homers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 13,530 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 51 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Eh, 10-6 makes the playoffs most years, conference was unusually strong. I think Flores has shown enough in a short period of time to suggest he knows what he's doing. Flores is fine. Problem is Tua is a glorified Jay Fiedler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 13,530 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Youse guys ever eat Bolis at stuff yer face in New Brunswick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
More Cowbell 4,625 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/12/2021 at 7:05 AM, Bronx said: For what particular reason? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nyjunc 10,906 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 1/13/2021 at 4:45 PM, UntouchableCrew said: Eh, 10-6 makes the playoffs most years, conference was unusually strong. I think Flores has shown enough in a short period of time to suggest he knows what he's doing. It didn't this year. Find me the successful coach that missed the playoffs their first 2 seasons? Remember, Todd Bowles missed the playoffs at 10-6 too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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