QB1 1,889 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Cause that is what hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? EDIT: I GET IT STUPID POST SORRY K THX 1 25 2 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post addage 450 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 You are absolutely right. Please give up all hope forever. Then you won't have to worry about it. 3 1 3 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
static14 1,508 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 If he brings in a very good OC what’s the issue? also it’s still only a rumor at this point. Nothing is official yet. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsbb 1,775 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Rappaport said Saleh is only one of a number of coaches who will get 2nd round interviews. It makes sense Saleh is the first since he had one of the earlier virtual interviews. Guys in the playoffs can't meet either. Still greater than 50% chance he is not the coach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Greensleeves 1,171 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, QB1 said: Cause that is was hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? I would say the Pats, Titans, Steelers, Rams have been there if I had to guess. 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post TokyoJetsFan 2,584 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, QB1 said: Cause that is was hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? Buffalo Bills this year? 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post jetscrazey 3,213 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 FWIW Saleh played an offensive position (TE) in college and excelled at it. I don’t pigeonhole him as a defensive lifer like Rex. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post slimjasi 11,656 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 Eh, I don't agree with this. McDermott, Tomlin, Beli, and Carroll are all defensive coaches with big offenses. They all have good QBs. We need a good QB. 13 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crusher 222,536 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, QB1 said: Cause that is was hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? Belicheck? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BloodGreen 255 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I think that is a very flawed way of thinking. A head coach should hire great coordinators and oversee them, but stay at arms length and let them do their jobs, on their side of the ball. I think a HC fails when they pay too much attention to the one side of the game that they originated from. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QB1 1,889 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 Fair enough on McDermott and Tomlin I guess it comes down to Saleh embracing the role of CEO and not even calling defensive plays 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beaver 1,825 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 XLV Feb. 6, 2011 Cowboys Stadium (Arlington, Texas) Green Bay 31, Pittsburgh 25 - Off Coach beats Def Coach XLVI Feb. 5, 2012 Lucas Oil Stadium (Indianapolis) New York Giants 21, New England 17 - Off Coach beats Defensive Coach XLVII Feb. 3, 2013 Mercedes-Benz Superdome (New Orleans) Baltimore 34, San Francisco 31 - ST Coach beats Off Coach XLVIII Feb. 2, 2014 MetLife Stadium (East Rutherford, N.J.) Seattle 43, Denver 8 - Def Coach beats Def Coach XLIX Feb. 1, 2015 University of Phoenix Stadium (Glendale, Ariz.) New England 28, Seattle 24 - Def Coach beats Def Coach 50 Feb. 7, 2016 Levi's Stadium (Santa Clara, Calif.) Denver 24, Carolina 10 - Off Coach beats Def Coach LI Feb. 5, 2017 NRG Stadium (Houston) New England 34, Atlanta 28 - Def Coach beats Def Coach LII Feb. 4, 2018 U.S. Bank Stadium (Minneapolis) Philadelphia 41, New England 33 - Off Coach beats Def Coach LIII Feb. 3, 2019 Mercedes-Benz Stadium (Atlanta) New England 13, Los Angeles Rams 3 - Def Coach beats Off Coach LIV Feb. 2, 2020 Hard Rock Stadium (Miami) Kansas City 31, San Francisco 20 - Off Coach beats Off Coach Off Coach wins - 5 Def Coach wins - 4 St Coach wins - 1 Bottom line is who cares what side of the ball they are on as long as they can win a Super Bowl. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slimjasi 11,656 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, QB1 said: Fair enough on McDermott and Tomlin I guess it comes down to Saleh embracing the role of CEO and not even calling defensive plays I would probably like to see this, as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelScott 1,198 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 What was wrong with your old user name again? 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SR24 4,126 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 His 3 rumored OCs are all young and come from solid systems. McDaniel,Lafleur and Kafka are all guys who have been previously blocked from OC interviews and would all be good young hires. Saleh is a guy the team will play for and seems like someone who could thrive in the CEO role. It would be a good hire. I also don’t think Gases input had a huge effect on Joe D’s draft plans. Joe D’s knows this offense needs work and there’s no way he’s gonna compromise himself by ignoring that side of the ball 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nixhead 2,137 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, QB1 said: Cause that is was hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? Jets tend to do better with defensive coaches: Rex Ryan, Hmmm Herm Edwards! See.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joejet 1,869 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Shanahan in SF is an offensive coach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
32EBoozer 7,170 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 26 minutes ago, QB1 said: Cause that is what hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? He’s not drafting the players... JD is. JD has a vision for this team and it starts in the trenches. DL is solid, OL is not. He’ll take the coaches suggestions and try to give him input but in the end it’s Douglas’ team to build for the coach to develop 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
heymangold 2,256 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Saleh is linked to a few good offensive minds - I also heard he was a pretty good tight end in college, so he knows offense. Kafka is linked to him, the guy who some think should get more credit for the development of Mahomes. Mike McDaniel and Mike LaFleur are top assistants to Kyle Shannahan, a pretty good offensive mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BornJetsFan1983 6,609 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 33 minutes ago, QB1 said: Cause that is what hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO just cause he was most recently the Def coordinator from a good team doesn't mean he wont be a good OFF minded HC. That is the whole point..we are not hiring a coordinator we are hirign a HC and one that comes from a successful team with a successful off seems pretty good to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dcJet 1,363 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 What a giant FU from Woody this would be. Forever and ever, we hired rookie defensive minded head coaches and it never worked and we complained. Finally last time, we were like, "Hey Woody, try something different. Hire an offensive head coach with experience". So the MFer hires the worst candidate in the history of candidates. And now, he says "See, I listened to the fans and it didn't work" So, back to rookie defensive head coaches. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Maxman 540,587 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 34 minutes ago, QB1 said: Cause that is what hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? Belichick is the greatest defensive coach of all time. He's been okay with offense. 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jet Nut 17,287 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/12/2021 at 5:42 PM, QB1 said: Cause that is what hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? This is the worst logic ever A defensive HC who planned his defenses around stopping an offense has no clue about the offensive side of the ball? Yeah, why? And then theres Weeb, Landry, Shula, Parcells, Belichick, Cowher, etc. They had shltty offenses, right? 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Creepy Lurker 7,397 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 People want a team identity? The New York Jets have an identity. It’s sh*t offense. That’s who we are. Saleh seems like a strong candidate and I don’t care if we have a sh*t offense or not. We have had a sh*t offense forever. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spoot-Face 26,802 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Creepy Lurker said: People want a team identity? The New York Jets have an identity. It’s sh*t offense. That’s who we are. Saleh seems like a strong candidate and I don’t care if we have a sh*t offense or not. We have had a sh*t offense forever. I, too, like to stay in my comfort zone. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jet Nut 17,287 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 33 minutes ago, Jetsbb said: Rappaport said Saleh is only one of a number of coaches who will get 2nd round interviews. It makes sense Saleh is the first since he had one of the earlier virtual interviews. Guys in the playoffs can't meet either. Still greater than 50% chance he is not the coach. And this makes little sense, they dont have to bring in more than one person in for a 2nd interview. I would bring in my first choice and if all goes right offer him the job. They all dont have to go through a 2nd interview for no reason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QB1 1,889 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 Fair enough! That’s for calming my t!ts 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Lith 19,805 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 41 minutes ago, QB1 said: Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? 3 this season. Buffalo (Sean McDermott former DC), Tennessee (Mike Vrabel, former DC)and Minnesota (Mike Zimmer, former DC). All top 5 total offense this season. Buffalo and Tennessee are top 5 in scoring offense this year. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Embrace the Suck 3,525 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 46 minutes ago, QB1 said: Cause that is what hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? The GM makes the picks not the HC. The problem we've had is having morons as GM. I'm presuming JD isn't a moron. So no, we won't be drafting DT year after year with a SS mixed in. Joe D has already draft a OT and WR in the first tow rounds which he has drafted have faith, for now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QB1 1,889 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Lith said: 3 this season. Buffalo (Sean McDermott former DC), Tennessee (Mike Vrabel, former DC)and Minnesota (Mike Zimmer, former DC). All top 5 total offense this season. Buffalo and Tennessee are top 5 in scoring offense this year. Great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zachtomims47 5,367 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 49 minutes ago, QB1 said: Cause that is what hiring a defense coach will create- I don’t care who the hire is. I like Saleh too but this is my biggest concern. Are we going back to drafting D linemen in the first? Has ANY defensive coach put out a top 5 offense in the last decade? Lol. Literally 3 of the top 5 offenses have defensive HCs. And all 3 drafted offense in the first round. You’re not good at this game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
#27TheDominator 211,267 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 The only issue with a defensive coach over an offensive coach is when they sacrifice the offense for the sake of defensive statistics. I loved Rex, but he seemed guilty of this at times. Part of that was that Sanchez was so bad and they could win with D (at least at first) but there were times when it seemed like they would sacrifice points for defensive statistics. As long as your defensive coach would rather win 38-34, than lose 9-6 it's fine. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SAR I 14,863 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 The Jets want a head coach as CEO. Meaning he isn't responsible for the micromanaging of the defense or the offense; he is responsible for hiring qualified people who are. Past Jets head coaches since Parcells were all defensive coordinators who focused too much on the defense, had no balance. Gase was an attempt to do it from the offensive side, and didn't do anything on the defensive side. Salah, or whoever the next Jets head coach is, will be hired to be a Parcells-type, overseeing everything and thus not micromanaging anything. SAR I 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TNJet 7,373 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Fitzgerald HC Saleh DC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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