BettyBoop Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: Wouldnt be the worst thing in the world but WHY? We have plenty of cap money and there are a lot of FA WRs. Why squander high draft picks when you dont need to? I think Gallup is very solid and will only cost $1.2mm in 2021. And I think Douglas can find another good WR at #44. If he doesn’t spend $20mm on ARob there will be a better chance to sign Thuney and Matt Judon or Bud Dupree. After we re-sign Maye, Poole and others we won’t have nearly as much cap space as many think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: I think Gallup is very solid and will only cost $1.2mm in 2021. And I think Douglas can find another good WR at #44. If he doesn’t spend $20mm on ARob there will be a better chance to sign Thuney and Matt Judon or Bud Dupree. After we re-sign Maye, Poole and others we won’t have nearly as much cap space as many think. Isnt Gallup in the last year of his rookie contract? So you think its worth a first rd pick to save the money for a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Juju is overrated the next epic ex-Steeler bust for the jets That too, but it's pretty obvious that JD is trying to rid the Jets of assholes. See Jamal.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, rangerous said: not so sure rt is the critical need for the oline. i think it's the interior. this is where clark really starts coming into play. wasn't he a tackle in college? maybe he's being groomed to replace fant. Fant will likely be a cap casualty so matter how you slice it, the Jets will likely need a RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: Isnt Gallup in the last year of his rookie contract? So you think its worth a first rd pick to save the money for a year? It’s not a first round pick. It’s moving back for him and a second (and whatever else). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Tranquilo said: I'm good with everyone there except Juju. There's too many good WRs available to settle for Juju. Wholeheartedly agree with you regarding Juju, he's simply not good enough to tolerate his social networking shenanigans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Robinson will be resigned by the bears. With what money? They're currently over the projected cap. Khalil Mack ($26.6M), Kyle Fuller ($20M), Robert Quinn ($14.7M), Akiem Hicks ($12M), Eddie Jackson ($11.5M) Charles Leno ($11.3M), Jimmy Graham ($10M), Cody Whitehair ($9.6M) and Bobby Massie ($9.3M) all have substantial cap figures in 2021. Because their roster is so top-heavy in cap usage, they'd have to cut a LOT of people to make room for Robinson. The only easily cuttable players on the above list would be Hicks and Graham, who would save $10.5M and $7M in cap space, respectively, with minimal dead cap hits. That's not enough to bring back Robinson AND address other needs AND sign their draft picks. Robinson wants a contract that will exceed the $20M per year that Keenan Allen got over 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 So people actually think that 1. JD is going to sign Jameis Winston, a walking turnover, who couldnt play ahead of taysom hill. 2. Going to sign a center when McGovern graded out as top 10 in the league over the second half of the season with replacement level guards next to him and is on a reasonable contract. Unreal. The guy needed time to gel with a new team/offense and no offseason. Once that happened he played very well. He certainly doesnt need to be replaced. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, BCJet said: So people actually think that 1. JD is going to sign Jameis Winston, a walking turnover, who couldnt play ahead of taysom hill. 2. Going to sign a center when McGovern graded out as top 10 in the league over the second half of the season with replacement level guards next to him and is on a reasonable contract. Unreal. The guy needed time to gel with a new team/offense and no offseason. Once that happened he played very well. He certainly doesnt need to be replaced. McGovern would slide to Guard in this instance. McGovern is going nowhere. The financials in his contract ensures he gets at least 1 more year here. And Winston would be a fine veteran option/bridge QB. If Douglas really doesn't like Winston, however, there are other options. Tyrod Taylor, Andy Dalton and Ryan Fitzpatrick are among the other options scheduled to hit free agency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, rangerous said: not so sure rt is the critical need for the oline. i think it's the interior. this is where clark really starts coming into play. wasn't he a tackle in college? maybe he's being groomed to replace fant. Seems like they want him to battle for a G spot. Believe many teams projected him as a G leading into draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, JetPotato said: Winston isn't leaving his current job It won't be up to him. He's a FA and the Saints are in the worst cap shape in the league. Maybe they shouldn't have handed a Fullback 21 million dollars over 2 years to pretend to be a QB2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: With what money? They're currently over the projected cap. Khalil Mack ($26.6M), Kyle Fuller ($20M), Robert Quinn ($14.7M), Akiem Hicks ($12M), Eddie Jackson ($11.5M) Charles Leno ($11.3M), Jimmy Graham ($10M), Cody Whitehair ($9.6M) and Bobby Massie ($9.3M) all have substantial cap figures in 2021. Because their roster is so top-heavy in cap usage, they'd have to cut a LOT of people to make room for Robinson. The only easily cuttable players on the above list would be Hicks and Graham, who would save $10.5M and $7M in cap space, respectively, with minimal dead cap hits. That's not enough to bring back Robinson AND address other needs AND sign their draft picks. Robinson wants a contract that will exceed the $20M per year that Keenan Allen got over 4 years. Teams that want to keep their best players find ways to keep their best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Teams that want to keep their best players find ways to keep their best players. And I'm telling you that they don't have a path to make this work. Did you look at what I wrote? They. Don't. Have. Space. They already paid a lot of their "best players" handsomely. Most notably Mack and Kyle Fuller. If they wanted Robinson back at the heavy price he's looking for, they would have paid him already. Having failed to do so to this point, their only options are the franchise tag (at which point they'd have to cut/trade a TON of people) or letting him walk. He's not getting a new contract with the Bears. He'd have to accept a discount rate and that isn't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, BettyBoop said: Douglas got his guy. He exudes CEO vibes and is quite charismatic. That helps with ‘recruiting’ free agents. Saleh won’t be Gaze and forget about one side of the ball. My choice and guess on free agents are as follows: WR: Juju Smith-Schuster, WR Joe Thuney, G Corey Linsley, C Leonard Floyd, Edge MacKensie Alexander, CB With two free agent OL signings I don’t think Douglas will draft an OL until round three or later. I do think Douglas will try to trade out of #2 but he just won’t get the kind of haul some posters are dreaming about. Going down to #9 with the Panthers it would be reasonable to get their second (#39) this year and next year. That could land us: #9: Kyle Pitts, TE #23 Tyson Campbell, CB # 34 Kadarius Toney, WR # 39 Jaelen Phillips, Edge Those nine players could make quite a difference to the team next year. For the posters who want to respond, “No way in hell is he there at #XX!!!”. Just don’t. If Jets to give up a top ranked QB at #2 to go down to 9 with Panthers, in addition to the 2 numbers 2's we should not do that deal unless it would also include their RB Maccfrey. Getting a QB in the top 2 has to pay a high price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Tranquilo said: I'm good with everyone there except Juju. There's too many good WRs available to settle for Juju. Agreed. He’s a slot WR and all the TicTok nonsense turned me off... shows immaturity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, section314 said: Seems like they want him to battle for a G spot. Believe many teams projected him as a G leading into draft. i hope he works out. then it's just one fewer position they will need to fill this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: Fant will likely be a cap casualty so matter how you slice it, the Jets will likely need a RT. well, que sera, sera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Beg P Willy to come out of retirement. Pick up Burfict. Get us a scary LB core. Profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Trey Hendrickson is a free agent. Saints in real cap jam. Merits strong look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 There’s a good chance that the salary cap will not be the $175M that some are projecting. I doubt teams want to hamstring themselves with that drastic of a cut. I would guess that teams won’t be in as much of a “cap hell” as some are projected to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, BettyBoop said: I wouldn’t hate trading #23 to the Cowboys for #44 (and another late rounder) and Michael Gallop whose cap hit is $1.2mm this year. Michael Gallup is one of the best kept secrets in the league. He may not be as physically gifted as Amari Cooper but I think you get a better consistent product out of MG over 4 quarters. he’s worth trading for. gallup>>Robinson all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 My ideal trade down is with Atlanta at 4. they get #2 we’d get #4, and their 2021 - 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Bowles Movement said: Isnt Gallup in the last year of his rookie contract? So you think its worth a first rd pick to save the money for a year? Herndon and a third Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I feel as though Douglas will NOT go after WRs in free agency. I hope he does, but I just don't see him going and chasing the WR market. I can see him going after Thuney/Scherff, CBs, and pass rushers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 FA game is a lot tougher than the draft. FA's have a lot on their minds besides the $. If it's all about the $ you end up with Leveon Bell. Ugh. Some of the best are looking to go out a winner, so they bend their contract needs to be with a contender. That's not the Jets. I think we are going to do fine. I think we will pass the sniff test in terms of the front office and coaching staff. But it's still going to be a slog in the trenches for another year or 2. So the win now set will turn down our offers. JD needs to set his contract timetable so that he is in strong position to sign top tier fa's in 2023. Not what we want to hear, but I think it's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Jethead said: Trey Hendrickson is a free agent. Saints in real cap jam. Merits strong look. New Orleans got: Marshon Lattimore Ryan Ramcyzk Marcus Williams Alvin Kamara Alex Anzalone Trey Hendrickson all in the same draft, just amazing essentially rebuilt their team with one draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Jameis Winston seems exactly like a JD type player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, BigRy56 said: I feel as though Douglas will NOT go after WRs in free agency. I hope he does, but I just don't see him going and chasing the WR market. I can see him going after Thuney/Scherff, CBs, and pass rushers. I’d be shocked. You don’t think he sees what Diggs did for Josh Allen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Joe Douglas recruited Robert Saleh. Now both of these guys will recruit free agents. I love our chances with the guys they target. Guys getting a call from these 2 will be a compliment. Come help us turn this soft team into a kick azz tough football team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Juju acts like a middle school student. Keep him the **** away from this franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardTodd27 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 14 hours ago, jazy8 said: Correct me if I am wrong.. But isn't JuJu a slot receiver? I am fine with Crowder in that position. I like.. - WR Allen Robinson or WR Corey Davis There it is, Corey Davis. He looked good this year and shouldn't cost too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 13 hours ago, UnknownJetFan said: If Jets to give up a top ranked QB at #2 to go down to 9 with Panthers, in addition to the 2 numbers 2's we should not do that deal unless it would also include their RB Maccfrey. Getting a QB in the top 2 has to pay a high price. Yeah next year first rounder...that's it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Ghost said: Juju acts like a middle school student. Keep him the **** away from this franchise. But our track record signing or trading for ex Steelers is so good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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