Why Is This Hiring Different From All Other Hirings?

[BettyBoop 2,881]

We’ve all been down this road before.  Old coach out/new coach in.  Not sure which one of those actually made us happier.  Let’s face it, with the exception of Gaze all of the new head coaches in the past had us all giddy at their introduction presser.  Bowles looked like the no-nonsense polar opposite of Rex.  Rex brought life into the program after Mangini, who appeared to be on his own little island for two years. Mangini was going to turn us into the Patriots after Herm lost his appeal.  And then there was Gaze.  Let’s admit it, we all looked at that introduction press conference and were wondering what the hell was happening.

So why is this hiring different from all other hirings.  It’s because all of the previous coaches were selected by the gut of the Johnson brothers.  While there were a few folks whispering in their ear(s), the final decision was what Fredo and Woody thought was best.  They were borne out of Fredo or Woody’s “vision” of the team.  And once the decision was made, the ear whisperers were like cockroaches when the light turned on.  Nowhere to be found.  The vision was left to Fredo to carry out.  As a result, 2-14 and a laughing stock.

This time we have a football guy making the call.  A seasoned NFLer who indeed has a plausible plan and will be here to see it through.  Thanks for your help Fredo, now you can go back to sea and leave the rest to the guy.

[QB1 1,889]

BECAUSE HE LOOKS LIKE THE ROCK GET HYYYYYYPPEE!!!

[nycdan 21,972]

Because on all other hirings (or the last two at least) we picked emotionless clowns who were completely unprepared to manage a team, the players, and adapt to adversity but on this hiring, we hired someone who has shown evidence that he can do all of them.  

And I think Douglas was reclining when he hired Saleh but that's unconfirmed.

[Beaver 1,879]

[section314 9,848]

Because we finally allowed the GM, who is a football guy, who has numerous contacts and relationships in the league, and is highly respected in league circles, make the most important decision a team has to make. 

[BettyBoop 2,881]

1 minute ago, Beaver said:

I see what you did there!

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience 2,561]

It's different this time because we hired Coach Saleh and the other times we didn't hire Coach Saleh. 

[BettyBoop 2,881]

Just now, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

It's different this time because we hired Coach Saleh and the other times we didn't hire Coach Saleh. 

Very Zen of you

[Teflon-Don 96]

Real football guys running the show whom are well respect throughout the league, finally free agents and other plays would gravitate to the new culture GET HYPE!!

 

[slats 111,391]

I feel good about it because, like the Joe Douglas hire, the Jets seem to’ve landed their very first choice rather than executing plan K. That alone is reason for optimism. 

[LockeJET 2,802]

This is why

[Scott Dierking 135,033]

We all want to feel positive about a hire. It is one of the best parts of being a fan. That said, I have no idea how this hire is going to turn out. There are so many other forces at work (whether JD is in fact great or not, the unpredictability of draft picks, how much meddling the owners decide to impart, whether someone tries to shortcut a rebuild and make sexy moves that only cost money without the return).

The last 2 hires (JD and Saleh) both feel, like you said, that they come from a football mentality perspective. They both tend to separate some of the "specialist" qualities that this team has seemed to trend toward in the recent past, and puts the emphasis on true football leadership men. Typically, that is how good organizations are built. But so many things can get in the way.

Building is going to require patience, a plan, and consistent tinkering to the plan with the ability to change course  if needed. I can't remember the last times that the Jets truly did that, with maybe the exception of the Michaels era. The Ryan era had some of that, but it had its buffoonery moments along with the colossal, idiotic Tebow move that doomed it. 

These moves seem to check a lot of boxes. Now comes the execution.

 

 

[Beerfish 36,905]

15 minutes ago, Beaver said:

Great movie.

[Philc1 14,446]

It’s different from our last 2 signings because 1) Saleh is competent and 2) Players will actually want to play for him

[Savage69 10,862]

19 minutes ago, QB1 said:

BECAUSE HE LOOKS LIKE THE ROCK GET HYYYYYYPPEE!!!

Or a young Vin Diesel

[Jets723 4,752]

I was pumped for the Rex Ryan hire.  But yeah this time the johnsons stayed out of it which is always for the best

[heymangold 2,264]

The only coaching hire I remember getting excited for was Rex. Mangini, Bowles, Herm, Gase - less than inspiring.

[Beerfish 36,905]

Well it is different from our last coach  because this guy is a legit candidate, unlike the last guy who was a fraud before he was hired, some of us knew we were doomed with gase.  does Saleh pan out?  We do not know

 

[BornJetsFan1983 6,630]

31 minutes ago, BettyBoop said:

We’ve all been down this road before.  Old coach out/new coach in.  Not sure which one of those actually made us happier.  Let’s face it, with the exception of Gaze all of the new head coaches in the past had us all giddy at their introduction presser.  Bowles looked like the no-nonsense polar opposite of Rex.  Rex brought life into the program after Mangini, who appeared to be on his own little island for two years. Mangini was going to turn us into the Patriots after Herm lost his appeal.  And then there was Gaze.  Let’s admit it, we all looked at that introduction press conference and were wondering what the hell was happening.

So why is this hiring different from all other hirings.  It’s because all of the previous coaches were selected by the gut of the Johnson brothers.  While there were a few folks whispering in their ear(s), the final decision was what Fredo and Woody thought was best.  They were borne out of Fredo or Woody’s “vision” of the team.  And once the decision was made, the ear whisperers were like cockroaches when the light turned on.  Nowhere to be found.  The vision was left to Fredo to carry out.  As a result, 2-14 and a laughing stock.

This time we have a football guy making the call.  A seasoned NFLer who indeed has a plausible plan and will be here to see it through.  Thanks for your help Fredo, now you can go back to sea and leave the rest to the guy.

remember when cassely or whatever his name was just hired his buddy after getting alot of CASH from them to make the decision. 

 

[UnknownJetFan 1,334]

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

We’ve all been down this road before.  Old coach out/new coach in.  Not sure which one of those actually made us happier.  Let’s face it, with the exception of Gaze all of the new head coaches in the past had us all giddy at their introduction presser.  Bowles looked like the no-nonsense polar opposite of Rex.  Rex brought life into the program after Mangini, who appeared to be on his own little island for two years. Mangini was going to turn us into the Patriots after Herm lost his appeal.  And then there was Gaze.  Let’s admit it, we all looked at that introduction press conference and were wondering what the hell was happening.

So why is this hiring different from all other hirings.  It’s because all of the previous coaches were selected by the gut of the Johnson brothers.  While there were a few folks whispering in their ear(s), the final decision was what Fredo and Woody thought was best.  They were borne out of Fredo or Woody’s “vision” of the team.  And once the decision was made, the ear whisperers were like cockroaches when the light turned on.  Nowhere to be found.  The vision was left to Fredo to carry out.  As a result, 2-14 and a laughing stock.

This time we have a football guy making the call.  A seasoned NFLer who indeed has a plausible plan and will be here to see it through.  Thanks for your help Fredo, now you can go back to sea and leave the rest to the guy.

There are accolades all over the league other teams brass, coaches, players, etc. saying this is a great hire. Did you hear that about Gase or Bowles?. I do not recall it. Plus JD doing the hiring as opposed to Casselry(Mac) and CJ(Gase) is much different. 

[BigRy56 6,683]

I think that Saleh has a much stronger reputation than Bowles and Gase, maybe even combined. This is a universally praised move and that never happens in a Jets coaching hire

[jgb 29,159]

Woody has always tended to over-correct with HC hires. Seems like the key qualification in each was being the polar opposite personality-wise of the guy who came/failed before. 

This seems like a very sober, careful selection.

[JoJoTownsell1 11,740]

2 minutes ago, jgb said:

Woody has always tended to over-correct with HC hires. Seems like the key qualification in each was being the polar opposite personality-wise of the guy who came/failed before. 

This seems like a very sober, careful selection.

Who also happens to be the "polar opposite personality wise of the guy who came/failed before.

[slimjasi 11,767]

One reason I like the hiring a lot is that we are going from a limited personality Gase to a rah rah Peter Carroll type. Combine that with the easier schedule next year and you will see a natural "players coach bounce" that is common in year 1 of a new regime. 

So I think this regime will get off to a good start and that has the opportunity to build momentum for the future. 

[slimjasi 11,767]

4 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

I think that Saleh has a much stronger reputation than Bowles and Gase, maybe even combined. This is a universally praised move and that never happens in a Jets coaching hire

A lot of people liked Bowles, but this is the most popular hire I can remember us making since Parcells. 

[jgb 29,159]

1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Who also happens to be the "polar opposite personality wise of the guy who came/failed before.

99% of the planet is the polar opposite of Gase.

[FidelioJet 9,722]

It’s not any different.  
Flavor of the Month coordinator - that’s looks and feels the opposite of the last one we hired.

Same thing....Gotta give the coaches good players.  That’s what’s going to matter..

 

[SAR I 14,992]

The Jets make history by hiring the first Muslim head coach ever in the NFL at the very moment Manish Mehta isn't allowed to cover him.

SAR I

[Skeet Ulrich 2,051]

4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

It’s not any different.  
Flavor of the Month coordinator - that’s looks and feels the opposite of the last one we hired.

Same thing....Gotta give the coaches good players.  That’s what’s going to matter..

 

Exactly. None of it matters unless they fix the roster in general, the QB spot in particular. Whether or not that means replacing Darnold or bringing in someone to make him a usable part - I don't care. Just fix QB1. 

[playtowinthegame 6,666]

Heads it's different, tails it's not. 

[section314 9,848]

16 minutes ago, jgb said:

Woody has always tended to over-correct with HC hires. Seems like the key qualification in each was being the polar opposite personality-wise of the guy who came/failed before. 

This seems like a very sober, careful selection.

Not many of us on this site can relate to that word. Especially where the Jets are concerned.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN 3,400]

1 hour ago, BettyBoop said:

We’ve all been down this road before.  Old coach out/new coach in.  Not sure which one of those actually made us happier.  Let’s face it, with the exception of Gaze all of the new head coaches in the past had us all giddy at their introduction presser.  Bowles looked like the no-nonsense polar opposite of Rex.  Rex brought life into the program after Mangini, who appeared to be on his own little island for two years. Mangini was going to turn us into the Patriots after Herm lost his appeal.  And then there was Gaze.  Let’s admit it, we all looked at that introduction press conference and were wondering what the hell was happening.

So why is this hiring different from all other hirings.  It’s because all of the previous coaches were selected by the gut of the Johnson brothers.  While there were a few folks whispering in their ear(s), the final decision was what Fredo and Woody thought was best.  They were borne out of Fredo or Woody’s “vision” of the team.  And once the decision was made, the ear whisperers were like cockroaches when the light turned on.  Nowhere to be found.  The vision was left to Fredo to carry out.  As a result, 2-14 and a laughing stock.

This time we have a football guy making the call.  A seasoned NFLer who indeed has a plausible plan and will be here to see it through.  Thanks for your help Fredo, now you can go back to sea and leave the rest to the guy.

Because it's been 52 years since we were in the Super Bowl . Our patience is getting VERRRRRRY THIN .

[section314 9,848]

1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said:

Heads it's different, tails it's not. 

"It's the best I can do."

[MS jets Fan 675]

Ok what makes this hire different absolutely nothing!  Until the wins come and this team shows it can sustain winning seasons, that's when you know! Until then this is all speculation!  Results determine how great you are not imagination!   So until then ENJOY THE SHOW

[rangerous 4,301]

2 hours ago, BettyBoop said:

We’ve all been down this road before.  Old coach out/new coach in.  Not sure which one of those actually made us happier.  Let’s face it, with the exception of Gaze all of the new head coaches in the past had us all giddy at their introduction presser.  Bowles looked like the no-nonsense polar opposite of Rex.  Rex brought life into the program after Mangini, who appeared to be on his own little island for two years. Mangini was going to turn us into the Patriots after Herm lost his appeal.  And then there was Gaze.  Let’s admit it, we all looked at that introduction press conference and were wondering what the hell was happening.

So why is this hiring different from all other hirings.  It’s because all of the previous coaches were selected by the gut of the Johnson brothers.  While there were a few folks whispering in their ear(s), the final decision was what Fredo and Woody thought was best.  They were borne out of Fredo or Woody’s “vision” of the team.  And once the decision was made, the ear whisperers were like cockroaches when the light turned on.  Nowhere to be found.  The vision was left to Fredo to carry out.  As a result, 2-14 and a laughing stock.

This time we have a football guy making the call.  A seasoned NFLer who indeed has a plausible plan and will be here to see it through.  Thanks for your help Fredo, now you can go back to sea and leave the rest to the guy.

why? primarily because douglas is being perceived as a real football guy.  another thing too is that the coach is being hired after the gm has been in the position for a bit.  unless there's some reason to think douglas and saleh will clash, this should work out.