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1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

I know it sounds like a valid complaint but really list all the teams that win SBs without a "stacked" lineup.  You need a team to win a SB, no matter how well you play QB.  

But Garoppolo is a 7 year pro, 67.5 comp%, 51 TDs, 26 INTs.  

I'd sign up for this.  His team pissed away a SB and fans blame the QB I get it.  Its just not entirely fair

The point im making is Jimmy G needs support around him, obviously every QB does to varying degrees, but Jimmy G is not the answer here.

This team needs talent, build thru the draft and build a team. I love Watson as a QB for example, but trading draft capital and signing him would also be a mistake. And he is 10x better than Jimmy G.

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When healthy imo Garoppolo is a better Qb than Darnold. But the reason SF might be willing to let him go is money due him plus injuries. A trade Sam for Jimmy is intriguing but my concern is his health. And with better weapons Sam might improve there is not that much difference between them but Jimmy prob the better player,. 

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3 hours ago, Marshmello said:

With Sf having only 38 million in cap space and having to resign Trent Williams.  They have 40 free agents.  Sets up pretty well for us to raid their roster. I think when we hired Gase, we didn't get sign anyone from Miami. Or there was there any talk of changing the culture. 

that's because Gase was fired, didn't get along with players and had a losing culture.  so I guess he did bring that

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2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

I know it sounds like a valid complaint but really list all the teams that win SBs without a "stacked" lineup.  You need a team to win a SB, no matter how well you play QB.  

But Garoppolo is a 7 year pro, 67.5 comp%, 51 TDs, 26 INTs.  

I'd sign up for this.  His team pissed away a SB and fans blame the QB I get it.  Its just not entirely fair

Agree with this although I always think that success creates a mirage, it’s always assumed that teams are stacked if they get to the SB and obviously they will have a lot more talent than a 2-14 team like us, but so many factors go into winning that sometimes players are overrated because of that success....we see it every year and have been victimised by it time and again in Free agency....the player that looked great in a winning team that comes to us and is a crushing disappointment.

Success in the NFL is about more than just being stacked at every position, there are good or average players in successful teams who are put in favourable positions and both enabled to perform at their optimum AND elevated by the play of better players around them. When they then move to a team that’s less well coached, doesn’t run a favourable system or is just not as talented in key positions they fail and show up as just not very good......there are many examples from Neil O’Donnell to Trumaine Johnson.

As you say, it’s a team game and that team also includes coaching, system, circumstances and even good fortune. There is no one player or position that is going to magic up a winning formula

just my opinion 

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A new head coach means the Jets are going to be targeting a new type of player in free agency and the NFL draft.

With Robert Saleh on board and Mike LaFleur likely to follow him to the Big Apple as his offensive coordinator, New York’s offensive and defensive schemes are in for a massive overhaul. Saleh prefers a base 4-3 defense and zone coverage, while LaFleur favors a west coast offense predicated on establishing the run and dialing up high-percentage passes. Both schemes differ dramatically from what Adam Gase and Gregg Williams had in place the last two seasons.

The Jets already have personnel in place to fit what Saleh and LaFleur want to accomplish, but additions still have to be made this offseason. What better place to turn for an influx of talent than Saleh and LaFleur’s former stomping ground? Here are seven 49ers of free agents that could be of interest to New York in the coming months.

 

RB Jeff Wilson Jr.

 

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Ty Johnson and La'Mical Perine give the Jets a decent running back duo heading into next season, but New York still needs a back who can shoulder a heavy workload by himself. Jeff Wilson Jr. could be that guy. Wilson Jr. came on strong for the 49ers in 2020, rushing for 600 yards and seven touchdowns on 126 carries (4.8 yards per carry) to go along with 13 receptions for 133 yards and three touchdowns through the air. The 25-year-old mostly played second fiddle to Raheem Mostert when Mostert was healthy, but when Wilson Jr. was given the opportunity to work as San Francisco's feature back, he shined. There is one problem the Jets face in any potential pursuit of Wilson Jr. -- he is a restricted free agent. New York would have to offer a lump sum that John Lynch deems unworthy of matching to pry Wilson Jr. away from the 49ers and even that might not be enough to seal the deal. Actually landing Wilson Jr. is a tough proposition, but that should not stop the Jets from trying.

DL Ronald Blair III

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Saleh is out to change the culture at One Jets Drive, and Ronald Blair III could be an underrated piece in his quest to accomplish that. Blair III has not played since 2019 because of a torn ACL, but as Saleh once said, per The Athletic's David Lombardi, "if you like winning, you like Ronnie Blair." The 27-year-old situational pass rusher thrived under Saleh's watch in 2018, recording 36 tackles, 14 quarterback hits, 10 TFLs and 5.5 sacks. He registered three more sacks in 2019 before his season was cut short after just nine games. Blair III is the kind of grinder the Jets would benefit greatly from having in the locker room. It doesn't hurt that he has a knack for making plays in the backfield when healthy, either.

DL Solomon Thomas

 

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Solomon Thomas' 2020 season ended with a torn ACL against the Jets in Week 2. Is there a chance he begins the next chapter of his NFL career calling MetLife Stadium home? Thomas has not quite lived up to the hype that followed him into the NFL as the No. 3 pick in the 2017 NFL draft. He has registered only six career sacks and has not recorded more than five TFLs since his rookie year. However, with the Jets moving to a four-man defensive front, Saleh could opt to give Thomas a chance to jump-start his career in New York.

CB Richard Sherman

 

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It's no secret that the Jets need help at cornerback this offseason. Richard Sherman is on the back-nine of his career at 32 years old, but his affinity for Saleh is well-known. Even if he is not the superstar he used to be, New York could benefit from adding him to the mix considering the personnel it ran out at the position throughout 2020. If Sherman is more interested in reuniting with Saleh than chasing another Super Bowl ring in 2021, One Jets Drive becomes a realistic destination for the five-time All-Pro. It would certainly be surreal to see him don the Gotham green after his years of beefing with Darrelle Revis.

CB K'Waun Williams

 

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The Jets already have a solid nickel cornerback in Brian Poole, but with the 28-year-old set to hit free agency, Saleh could opt for a familiar face to fill his shoes. K'Waun Williams spent 2020 establishing himself as an ideal fit in Saleh's defense. He is also a New Jersey native, which could give him another reason to consider making the move from San Francisco to New York. Williams should be near the top of Gang Green's free agent wishlist if Saleh and Joe Douglas opt to let Poole walk. He has already proven he can get the job done for New York's new head man.

CB Jason Verrett

 

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It was not too long ago that it looked like Jason Verrett's career might be over because of injuries. A former first-round pick, Verrett has battled an assortment of serious injuries since entering the NFL in 2014. That all changed in 2020, though, as the TCU product played in his most games (13) since 2015, which coincidentally happens to be the year he made his lone Pro Bowl appearance to date. Considering the impact Verrett made when healthy for the 49ers last season, he could be worth the Jets' while on a short-term contract.

S Jaquiski Tartt

 

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Even if the Jets re-sign Marcus Maye this offseason, they still have work to do to address the safety position. That's where Jaqiski Tartt comes into play. The 28-year-old played in only seven games in 2020 but performed well for Saleh in 2019, recording 48 tackles, two pass deflections, two fumble recoveries and one TFL in 12 games. Ashtyn Davis is a legitimate option to start at strong safety for New York in 2021, but Tartt would, at the very least, give the Jets some much-needed experience and depth in the secondary.

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On 1/16/2021 at 9:54 AM, Jet Nut said:

I know it sounds like a valid complaint but really list all the teams that win SBs without a "stacked" lineup.  You need a team to win a SB, no matter how well you play QB.  Think Marino etc

Garoppolo is a 7 year pro, 67.5 comp%, 51 TDs, 26 INTs, a QB rating of just about 100

I'd sign up for this.  His team pissed away a SB and fans blame the QB I get it.  Its just not entirely fair

Garoppolo is a play-it-safe QB in the mold of an Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins who puts up good looking numbers with ever actually being impressive. If SF cuts him, I think he'd be an inexpensive insurance policy at the position, though. 

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1 minute ago, slats said:

Garoppolo is a play-it-safe QB in the mold of an Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins who puts up good looking numbers with ever actually being impressive. If SF cuts him, I think he'd be an inexpensive insurance policy at the position, though. 

Hes going to appeal to a lot of teams, if he keeps his contract demands reasonable.  

I'd get a whole lot more excited about developing a kid at QB or even rehabbing Darnold.  

I agree with you, I was just responding to a post saying he sucks.  

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Is QB Nick Mullens a FA? (EDIT: Just checked, he's a RFA)  He seems like he'd be the target to backup Darnold IF the Jets keep Darnold.  In fact, whether we keep Sam or draft a QB, I think someone like Mullens who would be cheap, has some starting experience, and most importantly knows the Shanahan system would be a perfect signing. 

Others on O who might be realistic and would help bring the system here quickly are Juszczyk and Jeff Wilson.

I also think we're going to see the buildout of the rushing game here more immediately than the Jets jumping on a bunch of new, shiny, expensive or high Draft pick WR toys.

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