Pac Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Spoot-Face said: Yeah, and how many Super Bowls did that give us? I want a QB. Watson has two 1 and dones in the playoffs and is coming off a 4 win season. If the Texans will take Seattle's pick and Darnold then do it. If they want the 2nd, 23rd, and Darnold they can F off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Because it is much tougher to build a team with no high picks. Watson comes where just swap the jets with houston, the team we are laughing at for being lousy and having no picks. Like every single move, it all depends on the price asked. In any case, i doubt very much if he i going anywhere. We have two firsts and two 3rds in this draft and two firsts in the next draft. Plus if we add Watson we'd likely trade Darnold for more pick(s), unless of course he'd be included in the trade to Houston. There's plenty of capital available to build around Watson, regardless of the package of picks we give up to get him. And as I mentioned in a previous post, it becomes a lot easier to attract free agent WR's if you have a real QB. Guys like Allen Robinson and Chris Godwin would be much more likely to come to a Jets roster with Watson on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 The best QB we've had in the Genold era is Fitz. Think about that. Do it. I don't care if it's 3 first rounders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: <br /> faaaaaak that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Samtorobby47 said: Cmon old man! I gotchu.. Thanks. It's not that I don't know Tech, I just loathe social media. But it can be useful to read it when other repost it, lol. So that deal, maybe. Still guts the rebuild for a number of years. But honestly, I don't think the Texans accept it. If I'm them, trading the league leader in passing, my starting point is "both 2021 #1's, both 2022 #1 and your 2023 #1". We could negotiate that down of course, but I don't see any way we walk away with a #1 in 2021 or our higher pick in 2022 by the end of such a deal. I like Watson. Would love to have him. But I love having an O-line and WR's and RB's too. Dear lord if we trade the farm for Watson, and in November 2021 someone on JN is posting "Watson just needs time, and weapons"..... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post dcJet Posted January 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2021 If JD pulls this off, I'll pull him off. This would be top shelf, gangsta, GMing. I'll go to his house with the Kleenex. 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, peekskill68 said: I'd be SHOCKED if this plays out. This is not how JD rolls. Putting Watson on this team as currently constructed is like paying for premium unleaded to run your lawnmower.... That was hysterical LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachtomims47 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Thanks. It's not that I don't know Tech, I just loathe social media. But it can be useful to read it when other repost it, lol. So that deal, maybe. Still guts the rebuild for a number of years. But honestly, I don't think the Texans accept it. If I'm then, trading the league leader in passing, my starting point is "both 2021 #1's, both 2022 #1 and your 2023 #1". We could negotiate that down of course, but I don't see any way we walk away with a #1 in 2021 or our higher pick in 2022 by the end of such a deal. Well yes, then you don’t do it. Not for 5 1’s lol. I don’t think it would take that though. If Watson wants out and leaving them no choice, then they have to take the best offer. But for something close to Jeremiahs proposal, I’m all for. It doesn’t gut the rebuild at all. You have plenty of picks left. to make things happen. Plus free agency to fill out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morny Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 This thread is just building me full of hope, so that when he gets traded elsewhere (Dolphins probably) it will be *extra* painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I wouldn’t give up more than the Seattle pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Is Watson really that good? Without Hopkins? F*ck yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: With matt ryan atlanta won 4 games with deshaun watson houston won 4 games with herbert the chargers won 7 games Cousins and stafford both decent QBs losing records. If watson came to the jets and we had to give up rebuilding draft picks the jets would win.....4 games Atlanta fired their coach. Texans fired their coach. Chargers fired their coach. Lions fired their coach. The problem with those teams wasn't the QB, it was coaching. If Watson comes to the Jets under Saleh/LaFleur, we will win a lot more than 4 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, morny said: This thread is just building me full of hope, so that when he gets traded elsewhere (Dolphins probably) it will be *extra* painful. He has veto over the trade partner. Maybe Saleh helps the possibility of him coming here but he wants to go to Miami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Pac said: Watson has two 1 and dones in the playoffs and is coming off a 4 win season. If the Texans will take Seattle's pick and Darnold then do it. If they want the 2nd, 23rd, and Darnold they can F off. With nothing else attached? I'm doing this in a second. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Is Watson really that good? Without Hopkins? 4,823 passing yards, 70.2 completion percentage, 33 TD's, 7 INT's, without Hopkins in 2020. Yes, he is that good, admittedly. He is a legitimate franchise QB. He's instantly the best QB we've had in a very long time. The issue isn't Watson, it's the cost, and how we build a team around Watson with what we have left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Icer Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Trading for Watson is not a 'win now' move, its a 'win for the next 10+ years' move. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zachtomims47 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Pac said: Watson has two 1 and dones in the playoffs and is coming off a 4 win season. If the Texans will take Seattle's pick and Darnold then do it. If they want the 2nd, 23rd, and Darnold they can F off. Lol of course you think Watson is overrated. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Warfish said: 4,823 passing yards, 70.2 completion percentage, 33 TD's, 7 INT's, without Hopkins in 2020. Yes, he is that good, admittedly. He is a legitimate franchise QB. He'd easily be the best QB, and arguably the best offensive player to ever don green and white. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Icer said: Trading for Watson is not a 'win now' move, its a 'win for the next 10+ years' move. Exactly. People are treating it like we're going after Matthew Stafford. Now THAT would be a questionable "win now" move. Watson is a win now AND win later move. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Grandy said: He'd easily be the best QB, and arguably the best offensive player to ever don green and white. I didn't want to piss off the Namath guys, lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Last time I checked our starting QB was ranked at the bottom of all NFL statistics. We finished the season 2-14 To win in the NFL you need a decent QB. But here at JN...PICKS are like the Lombardi trophy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Lol of course you think Watson is overrated. Whatever Pac thinks of a QB, pick the other side of the argument. Always a safe bet. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 If you take Watson's worst statistical game this year, and average it out over 16 games it would be the best season in Darnold's career thus far. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Exactly. People are treating it like we're going after Matthew Stafford. Now THAT would be a questionable "win now" move. Watson is a win now AND win later move. No doubt. Kid is 25 years old. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: With matt ryan atlanta won 4 games with deshaun watson houston won 4 games with herbert the chargers won 7 games Cousins and stafford both decent QBs losing records. If watson came to the jets and we had to give up rebuilding draft picks the jets would win.....4 games With no cap room or near future high picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 32 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yes, adding an elite, 25-year old QB would most certainly unravel all of Douglas' plans for this team. The horror. Every GM out there craves finding the next Mahomes. Barring that, they crave finding the next Watson. A potential shortcut to that is something a competent GM has to explore. Sure they want to find him in the draft. I think you kissed the point. You don't spend all the picks we attained to build the team correctly, then spend them to get a FA. That would be silly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 first rounders plus Sam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Pac said: Watson has two 1 and dones in the playoffs and is coming off a 4 win season. If the Texans will take Seattle's pick and Darnold then do it. If they want the 2nd, 23rd, and Darnold they can F off. Vintage Pac Has undying love and patience for failed QBs like Sanchez, Geno, and Darnold, relentlessly defends Jamal Adams with his All-pro status, but scoffs at the idea of giving up 2 1st round picks and one aforementioned failed QB for a 3x Pro-Bowl QB coming off a season in which he set career high numbers in yards (~4800) TDs (33), both which would be Jets franchise records, while throwing only 7 INTs and doing so on an imploding 4-12 team. You gotta at least respect the consistency. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Exactly. People are treating it like we're going after Matthew Stafford. Now THAT would be a questionable "win now" move. Watson is a win now AND win later move. He's a 25 year old with a career 104 QB rating. Anything other than multiple first round picks for him would find JD in prison for grand theft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Lol of course you think Watson is overrated. If Watson played for the Jets, I promise you Pac would be making arguments about GOAT. He’s not credible. He decided to hate him when people complained on passing on him for Jamal. He’s so jaded, he doesn’t even remember Watson making one of the greatest plays in the history of the playoffs to beat the Bills just last year. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Why did houston win 4 games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I want to win winnn winnnnn!! just do what it takes and put every single other resource into building around him. Watson is worth making due with what you have left to use 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Vintage Pac Has undying love and patience for failed QBs like Sanchez, Geno, and Darnold, relentlessly defends Jamal Adams with his All-pro status, but scoffs at the idea of giving up 2 1st round picks and one aforementioned failed QB for a 3x Pro-Bowl QB coming off a season in which he set career high numbers in yards (~4800) TDs (33), both which would be Jets franchise records, while throwing only 7 INTs and doing so on an imploding 4-12 team. You gotta at least respect the consistency. Watson put up one of the best statistical seasons in history with a corpse of a team around him, and Romeo Crennel. If you can get him, get him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, Pac said: faaaaaak that. I wouldn’t give more than the #2 pick and a middle round pick straight up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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