DeShaun Watson's Texans departure seems inevitable

[Lupz27 12,685]

8 minutes ago, jgb said:

Well if I was GM I’d trade for Mahomes for a 2038 6th rounder. That’s how you GM.

No I’m not blind to ALL the circumstances around Watson, you fans are just salivating at his fantasy production the kid hasn’t won a ******* thing in the NFL and you will all say well he had no help blah blah blah, well yeah so let’s trade every ******* pick to pay this guy 40 million a year with the worst roster by far in football and expect him to be our savior.

SHUT THE **** UP you GM worse then ******* Macc if you want to give up the farm for this problem.

[ljr 2,839]

Just an example of my opinion of Watson.
This year my fantasy league decided to play with 2 QBs.  
I had Mahomes and Watson.
I named the team after Watson.
The guy is really freakin good.

I haven’t played fantasy football in a long *$$ time ... but how the h*ll could you get both those guys?

Is there just 2 people in your league?


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[jgb 30,704]

Just now, Lupz27 said:

No I’m not blind to ALL the circumstances around Watson, you fans are just salivating at his fantasy production the kid hasn’t won a ******* thing in the NFL and you will all say well he had no help blah blah blah, well yeah so let’s trade every ******* pick to pay this guy 40 million a year with the worst roster by far in football and expect him to be our savior.

SHUT THE **** UP you GM worse then ******* Macc if you want to give up the farm for this problem.

Yikes

[Spoot-Face 27,707]

5 minutes ago, Cp561 said:

Watson made Chad Hansen seem like an actual decent NFL receiver... what more proof do we need??

So, what you're saying is, Deshaun Watson woulda made Mike Maccagnan seem like a decent NFL GM?

[Mike135 5,715]

2 minutes ago, ljr said:

 

I haven’t played fantasy football in a long *$$ time ... but how the h*ll could you get both those guys?

Is there just 2 people in your league?


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Watson was a "keeper" from previous year.  And used my 1st rounder on Mahomes. 

[JiFapono 152,766]

18 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Some of us actually watched the games

 

Watson loaded up on garbage time stats.  Fuller was phenomenal before getting popped for PEDs

I watched and this is not true and the splits back me up.  He threw for more yards in the 1st half of games then he did in the 2nd, he had 15 TDs in the first half vs 21 in the 2nd.  He had 700 more yards and 7 more TDs within 1-8 points then down 8-16. He actually ran for more yards in the 2nd half then he did it the 1st half.   They just were trailing all the time because they were terrible and even so 10 games were decided by 8 points or less.  He was incredible this year.  
 
And the last 2 years when they had an actual team, they won double digit games, and they won the division.  It’s not like we’re going off 1 season.  Kid was amazing on a terrible team in total disarray. 

[RedBeardedSavage 3,332]

3 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

You cannot evaluate every negotiation based on the Adams trade.  JD robbed Seattle

That’s fine, but I’m asking you what’s the most you’re willing to trade for Watson and feel good about it? 

[Cp561 258]

3 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

No I’m not blind to ALL the circumstances around Watson, you fans are just salivating at his fantasy production the kid hasn’t won a ******* thing in the NFL and you will all say well he had no help blah blah blah, well yeah so let’s trade every ******* pick to pay this guy 40 million a year with the worst roster by far in football and expect him to be our savior.

SHUT THE **** UP you GM worse then ******* Macc if you want to give up the farm for this problem.

Damn dude you may want to log off and go take a walk if this is making you that angry 

[Spoot-Face 27,707]

3 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

No I’m not blind to ALL the circumstances around Watson, you fans are just salivating at his fantasy production the kid hasn’t won a ******* thing in the NFL and you will all say well he had no help blah blah blah, well yeah so let’s trade every ******* pick to pay this guy 40 million a year with the worst roster by far in football and expect him to be our savior.

SHUT THE **** UP you GM worse then ******* Macc if you want to give up the farm for this problem.

[Irish Jet 238,060]

18 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Some of us actually watched the games

 

Watson loaded up on garbage time stats. 

Yeah this isn’t what happened.

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[kdels62 9,279]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

I watched and this is not true and the splits back me up.  He threw for more yards in the 1st half of games then he did in the 2nd, he had 15 TDs in the first half vs 21 in the 2nd.  He had 700 more yards and 7 more TDs within 1-8 points then down 8-16. He actually ran for more yards in the 2nd half then he did it the 1st half.   They just were trailing all the time because they were terrible and even so 10 games were decided by 8 points or less.  He was incredible this year.  
 
And the last 2 years when they had an actual team, they won double digit games, and they won the division.  It’s not like we’re going off 1 season.  Kid was amazing on a terrible team.

But did you watch the game? Or have him on your fantasy team?

[Grandy 3,948]

The opinion that Watson is some trouble maker is way overblown, his team loves him and not one single bad thing about his character has ever surfaced. I mean, just look at the guys charitability, and community efforts and tell me he's a "problem" player.

He doesn't want to play for a dumpster fire team which traded away his guys, lied to him, excluded him, and is led by a behind the times owner who believes his players are "inmates" in prison.

The era of "Shut up and play" is over, and it's not coming back.

[jgb 30,704]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

I watched and this is not true and the splits back me up.  He threw for more yards in the 1st half of games then he did in the 2nd, he had 15 TDs in the first half vs 21 in the 2nd.  He had 700 more yards and 7 more TDs within 1-8 points then down 8-16. He actually ran for more yards in the 2nd half then he did it the 1st half.   They just were trailing all the time because they were terrible and even so 10 games were decided by 8 points or less.  He was incredible this year.  
 
And the last 2 years when they had an actual team, they won double digit games, and they won the division.  It’s not like we’re going off 1 season.  Kid was amazing on a terrible team.

Good QBs are secretly bad and bad ones are secretly good. This place is freaky Friday yo.

[T0mShane 143,375]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

I watched and this is not true and the splits back me up.  He threw for more yards in the 1st half of games then he did in the 2nd, he had 15 TDs in the first half vs 21 in the 2nd.  He had 700 more yards and 7 more TDs within 1-8 points then down 8-16. He actually ran for more yards in the 2nd half then he did it the 1st half.   They just were trailing all the time because they were terrible and even so 10 games were decided by 8 points or less.  He was incredible this year.  
 
And the last 2 years when they had an actual team, they won double digit games, and they won the division.  It’s not like we’re going off 1 season.  Kid was amazing on a terrible team.

[Irish Jet 238,060]

4 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

No I’m not blind to ALL the circumstances around Watson, you fans are just salivating at his fantasy production the kid hasn’t won a ******* thing in the NFL and you will all say well he had no help blah blah blah, well yeah so let’s trade every ******* pick to pay this guy 40 million a year with the worst roster by far in football and expect him to be our savior.

SHUT THE **** UP you GM worse then ******* Macc if you want to give up the farm for this problem.

Sounds pretty personal. Jesus.

[dbatesman 49,184]

5 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

you fans are just salivating at his fantasy production the kid hasn’t won a ******* thing in the NFL

He’s won two division titles, which sure seems like something

[kdels62 9,279]

5 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

No I’m not blind to ALL the circumstances around Watson, you fans are just salivating at his fantasy production the kid hasn’t won a ******* thing in the NFL and you will all say well he had no help blah blah blah, well yeah so let’s trade every ******* pick to pay this guy 40 million a year with the worst roster by far in football and expect him to be our savior.

SHUT THE **** UP you GM worse then ******* Macc if you want to give up the farm for this problem.

[Irish Jet 238,060]

1 minute ago, Grandy said:

The opinion that Watson is some trouble maker is way overblown, his team loves him and not one single bad thing about his character has ever surfaced. I mean, just look at the guys charitability, and community efforts and tell me he's a "problem" player.

He doesn't want to play for a dumpster fire team which traded away his guys, lied to him, excluded him, and is led by a behind the times owner who believes his players are "inmates" in prison.

The era of "Shut up and play" is over, and it's not coming back.

It’s because he’s black.

[GQMartin 53]

15 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Sam won 2 less games than Watson with the worst roster and head coach

Sam didn’t win the Jets any games in 2020. 
 

 

[Grandy 3,948]

2 minutes ago, JiF said:

I watched and this is not true and the splits back me up.  He threw for more yards in the 1st half of games then he did in the 2nd, he had 15 TDs in the first half vs 21 in the 2nd.  He had 700 more yards and 7 more TDs within 1-8 points then down 8-16. He actually ran for more yards in the 2nd half then he did it the 1st half.   They just were trailing all the time because they were terrible and even so 10 games were decided by 8 points or less.  He was incredible this year.  
 
And the last 2 years when they had an actual team, they won double digit games, and they won the division.  It’s not like we’re going off 1 season.  Kid was amazing on a terrible team in total disarray. 

He was also great in the playoffs last year, and has led in Game winning drives before. He's great overall, and clutch. Just look at the Buffalo play ffs. People forget It's not his fault that his team crumbled and let up 51 points in 3 quarters against fellow QB Wizard, Patrick Mahomes.

[kdels62 9,279]

Just now, Irish Jet said:

It’s because he’s black.

[jgb 30,704]

Just now, Irish Jet said:

It’s because he’s black.

Darnoids can’t realistically defend him so next best thing is crap all over every other possible option. 

[Philc1 14,450]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

I watched and this is not true and the splits back me up.  He threw for more yards in the 1st half of games then he did in the 2nd, he had 15 TDs in the first half vs 21 in the 2nd.  He had 700 more yards and 7 more TDs within 1-8 points then down 8-16. He actually ran for more yards in the 2nd half then he did it the 1st half.   They just were trailing all the time because they were terrible and even so 10 games were decided by 8 points or less.  He was incredible this year.  
 
And the last 2 years when they had an actual team, they won double digit games, and they won the division.  It’s not like we’re going off 1 season.  Kid was amazing on a terrible team in total disarray. 

They went from double digit wins to 4-12 after losing one player Hopkins

 

Top 5 QBs don’t go 4-12 because they lose one player.  Sam, who is reviled here, went 7-9 with a way worse roster and coach

[Philc1 14,450]

1 minute ago, GQMartin said:

Sam didn’t win the Jets any games in 2020. 
 

 

[Grandy 3,948]

2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

It’s because he’s black.

People have a tendency to lose their minds when a Black player is outspoken. It's sad but frequent. 

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3 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

He’s won two division titles, which sure seems like something

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4 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

It’s because he’s black.

[Cp561 258]

2 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

It’s because he’s black.

Some guys reallyyyy don't like the players having any sort of power at all. Meanwhile owners will mercilessly cut a player the minute they can do so and it benefits them. Deshaun has a lot of leverage right now, and I don't blame him for using it while he is still in his prime and has the ability to do so

[RedBeardedSavage 3,332]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

Darnoids can’t realistically defend him so next best thing is crap all over every other possible option. 

As a Darnold truther myself... we should still dump him for a day 2 pick and give up multiple firsts for Watson.

We can debate price, sure, but I don’t understand debating the player. 

Watson is elite, and I’d rather have a known commodity then a draft pick or a reclamation project.

I don’t even see how that’s a debate. 

[Patriot Killa 24,098]

8 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

No I’m not blind to ALL the circumstances around Watson, you fans are just salivating at his fantasy production the kid hasn’t won a ******* thing in the NFL and you will all say well he had no help blah blah blah, well yeah so let’s trade every ******* pick to pay this guy 40 million a year with the worst roster by far in football and expect him to be our savior.

SHUT THE **** UP you GM worse then ******* Macc if you want to give up the farm for this problem.

Powerful.

[Icer 3,953]

35 minutes ago, jgb said:

#1 QB Rating in AFC. #2 in NFL behind Rodgers. Improved in every significant statistical category. Conclusion: he was amazing this year as the house caved in around him.

Darnold-bros can't fathom the thought of a QB playing well in sh*t circumstances

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3 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

Top 5 QBs don’t go 4-12 because they lose one player.  Sam, who is reviled here, went 7-9 with a way worse roster and coach

I suppose top 5 QBs don't also throw for 4800 yds, 33 TDs, and 7 ints at 70% comp.

[jgb 30,704]

2 minutes ago, Cp561 said:

Some guys reallyyyy don't like the players having any sort of power at all. Meanwhile owners will mercilessly cut a player the minute they can do so and it benefits them. Deshaun has a lot of leverage right now, and I don't blame him for using it while he is still in his prime and has the ability to do so

We see the same thing whenever a Jet player wants to get paid. It’s like some fans have appointed themselves Woody’s personal accountant. I for one am tired of winning the Salary Cap Olympics.

[jgb 30,704]

3 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

As a Darnold truther myself... we should still dump him for a day 2 pick and give up multiple firsts for Watson.

We can debate price, sure, but I don’t understand debating the player. 

Watson is elite, and I’d rather have a known commodity then a draft pick or a reclamation project.

I don’t even see how that’s a debate. 

You are like a cracked window in a house of farts, my level-headed friend.