NYJets8 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 More and more, it looks like the Houston Texans are going to be left with no other recourse than to trade quarterback Deshaun Watson. On Sunday, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that there is “a growing sense” that Watson has played his game for the Texans. The star passer is reportedly unhappy about the general direction of the franchise and the way organizational brass has conducted football business of late. If Watson is available via trade, almost every team in the NFL should want to acquire him. However, not every team has the requisite draft capital to pull off such a blockbuster. The New York Jets are one team that does, and Schefter thinks they are the best positioned to put together a package for Watson. New Jets head coach Robert Saleh is said to be high on incumbent quarterback Sam Darnold, the team’s 2018 first-round pick. That may be the case, but if the Jets have a real shot at getting Watson, they have to jump on it. Darnold may have the potential to be better than what he’s shown through three NFL seasons, but Watson is already a top-5 quarterback in the league. He’s also only 25 years old and seemingly entering his prime. Acquiring a building block like Watson would be an instant franchise-changer for the Jets, or any other interested team. Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter There’s no team out there better positioned than the New York Jets to put together a compelling trade package for Deshaun Watson. Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks If Watson became available via trade, the Jets should call. You could trade 2nd pick this year (they still have 23rd pick), 1st in 2022 (They have 2) & 1st in 2023. That’s 3 first round picks. They could pickup extra pick/picks if they traded Sam. (My gift to sports radio) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 1 1 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 If the Texans trade Watson more people need to get fired. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMikeyG Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Yes please....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 The Dolphins are in a much better position then the jets to get watson. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 All depends on their ask. Right now he is their problem so if they have to deal him the compensation must be reasonable if not a slight discount. I'm all for exploring the cost and I'd love to have him as our QB but not if we are left with him and a few 3rd and 4th rounders for the next few years. 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team archer Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Im bout to nust a but 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gramsci Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: The Dolphins are in a much better position then the jets to get watson. They are not. 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said: The Dolphins are in a much better position then the jets to get watson. Eh, it depends on how much the Texans like Tua because 2 beats 3. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramsci Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: All depends on their ask. Right now he is their problem so if they have to deal him the compensation must be reasonable if not a slight discount. I'm all for exploring the cost and I'd love to have him as our QB but not if we are left with him and a few 3rd and 4th rounders for the next few years. Three firsts woud be pretty fair. 2020, 2021, 2022 and we still would have legitimate draft capital to improve the receiving core and O-Line. 2 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramsci Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, slimjasi said: Eh, it depends on how much the Texans like Tua because 2 beats 3. And the Jets could easily outmatch any offer considering on how much draft capital we are sitting on ATM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Eh, it depends on how much the Texans like Tua because 2 beats 3. I dont think the texans will want tua. They will want picks. And miami is a 10 win team. If watson wants to win, then miami is a far better spot then the jets. Its not close. 4 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, slimjasi said: Eh, it depends on how much the Texans like Tua because 2 beats 3. ...And they would most likely prefer their guaranteed pick of Fields/Wilson to be their guy over castaway Tua. I know it's popular to mock us or Miami trading our castaway QB to them but I think they would prefer to just take their guy and not absorb a large salary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gramsci said: Three firsts woud be pretty fair. 2020, 2021, 2022 and we still would have legitimate draft capital to improve the receiving core and O-Line. I'm assuming you mean '21, '22, and '23. That would be tough to swallow but I can't argue that it's not worth it, especially since we have two 1sts from Seattle. The trade would essentially look like Jamal Adams + 1st round pick for Deshaun Watson. Not too many people would balk at that. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: I dont think the texans will want tua. They will want picks. And miami is a 10 win team. If watson wants to win, then miami is a far better spot then the jets. Its not close. Ahh ok, you mean from Watson’s perspective - as in where would he accept a trade to. I’d imagine he’d prefer Miami, but I could see him accepting a trade to the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: The Dolphins are in a much better position then the jets to get watson. This 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Ahh ok, you mean from Watson’s perspective - as in where would he accept a trade to. I’d imagine he’d prefer Miami, but I could see him accepting a trade to the Jets. He made tweets in the past that show a liking towards us, and his agent was liking things that suggested we pursue him. I think he'd come here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 I still say the Texans figure out how to hang onto him 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Eh, it depends on how much the Texans like Tua because 2 beats 3. Their new GM reportedly loves Tua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 The media really knows how to work a story to keep people engaged. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 Wait, all of a sudden people WANT to come to the Jets?? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: The Dolphins are in a much better position then the jets to get watson. This. The Jags also could offer more than the Jets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Wait, all of a sudden people WANT to come to the Jets?? It helps that we hired Douglas and Saleh, who the entire NFL seems to Love. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 We have to draft our own QB and finally build A+ weapons around him. I love Watson he's top 3 All-Time in QB Rating but our roster is so weak. If we trade away 3 1st round picks for him? We'll never field a good offense around him. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, Beerfish said: All depends on their ask. Right now he is their problem so if they have to deal him the compensation must be reasonable if not a slight discount. I'm all for exploring the cost and I'd love to have him as our QB but not if we are left with him and a few 3rd and 4th rounders for the next few years. Don't see JD giving away more than 2 1st, Darnold and a 3rd rounder. JD is NOT Macc. And that's a lot for a guy who's forcing himself out. There are only so many teams that could justifiably trade for Watson and give the Texans fair value. Fields is there for the taking and has the same acumen as Watson when he came out. And would cost you just the 2nd pick. You take Fields, keep the picks, build the team around him. JD has a better feel for talent than Macc. This is no quick fix and will take a few years and JD must hit on the majority of his prime picks. This team is far far far away from competing for a championship. The Texans. with Watson, didn't fare much better than we did this last year. It wouldn't be much different this coming year for us with Watson or for a number of years. Our roster is crap and young and inexperienced. Do people on here remember we just nearly went 0-16? This is a REBUILD. We'd probably get to 6-10 if lucky and linger around a .500 record for quite awhile. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: This. The Jags also could offer more than the Jets. Yep. The Jags have 2 1st's this year and Minshew just to start with. Wont happen though since Trevor will be a marketing gold mine for the Jax owner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: If the Texans trade Watson more people need to get fired. This isn't 1989 anymore. Players that demand to get traded, get traded. Just look at the NBA or even look at the Jets with Jamal Adams. The Texans are in a horrible cap situation this coming year and have zero first round picks and have a pretty crappy roster. If they really like Fields or Wilson, it's not a horrible move for them to trade Watson and rebuild with another young QB. Meanwhile, for the Jets a trade also makes sense because, while they are also rebuilding, they have cap space to bring in players that seemingly want to play for Saleh and would most definitely want to play with Watson. The Jets can also afford to trade away 2 1st round picks (including #2 overall) AND still have a 1st round pick this year and next while most teams can't offer that. We should also realize that if we don't land Watson, there is a very real chance the Fish would and dealing with Watson and Allen the next 10 years would be rather annoying to say the least. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: This. The Jags also could offer more than the Jets. Why would the Jags ever trade away Trevor Lawrence going into his 1st year on a rookie contract for Watson and his massive contract? The Fish, though, would be the favorite to land Watson ONLY if the Texans have interest in Tua. If they don't want Tua, then the Fish and their stockpile of picks would match pretty equally to the Jets stockpile of picks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: This isn't 1989 anymore. Players that demand to get traded, get traded. Just look at the NBA or even look at the Jets with Jamal Adams. The Texans are in a horrible cap situation this coming year and have zero first round picks and have a pretty crappy roster. If they really like Fields or Wilson, it's not a horrible move for them to trade Watson and rebuild with another young QB. This is still the NFL not the NBA and a Safety isn't in the same universe as a Franchise QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: The Dolphins are in a much better position then the jets to get watson. i dont think so. we have 4 #1s in the next 2 years. Mia has 3. plus ours is higher. if they do it with Mia and they get the 3 pick and we decide to draft a QB at 2 we could screw them if we take someone they want. and if we do it we still have a worst roster and no high draft picks to help. the FA money will take a serious hit with Watsons contract. there is a good chance Mia will be better than us and therefore the 2022 picks will be higher if they trade with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fleming Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 If Watson has a no-trade clause as some here have claimed, then Watson has an ultimate veto over who he gets traded to. If that is the case, then he could compel the Texans to trade with the Jets regardless of who the Texans prefer. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 This is hard to believe. I hope I’m wrong. The thought of having a franchise QB, who is only 25 years old is ridiculous to me. If this is possible, we must get it done. Immediately. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: This isn't 1989 anymore. Players that demand to get traded, get traded. Just look at the NBA or even look at the Jets with Jamal Adams. The Texans are in a horrible cap situation this coming year and have zero first round picks and have a pretty crappy roster. If they really like Fields or Wilson, it's not a horrible move for them to trade Watson and rebuild with another young QB. Meanwhile, for the Jets a trade also makes sense because, while they are also rebuilding, they have cap space to bring in players that seemingly want to play for Saleh and would most definitely want to play with Watson. The Jets can also afford to trade away 2 1st round picks (including #2 overall) AND still have a 1st round pick this year and next while most teams can't offer that. We should also realize that if we don't land Watson, there is a very real chance the Fish would and dealing with Watson and Allen the next 10 years would be rather annoying to say the least. Watsons contract is big. we will has alot less money for FA. and there is no way we keep any of our 1st rd picks the next 2 years. hell maybe even 3 yrs Watson is 25 and great. we will give up a kings ransom for him you need to look at his numbers again. 70% comp 4823 yds 33 TD 7 INT on a 4 win team. this trade if it happens will be bigger than the Hershel Walker trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, doitny said: Watsons contract is big. we will has alot less money for FA. and there is no way we keep any of our 1st rd picks the next 2 years. hell maybe even 3 yrs Watson is 25 and great. we will give up a kings ransom for him you need to look at his numbers again. 70% comp 4823 yds 33 TD 7 INT on a 4 win team. this trade if it happens will be bigger than the Hershel Walker trade. It's not like there is anyone else on the team that needs to be paid a second contract. Marcus Maye might get paid but the other building blocks on the team are on their rookie contracts. Adding Watson to the team immediately makes the Jets attractive to other free agents. I have consistently said that Robinson won't sign with the Jets because he wants to go to a contender after spending his career on struggling teams. Adding Watson to the team means that the Jets could offer Robinson the best quarterback he has ever played with, while Watson gets to throw to a wide receiver who would be the second best wide receiver he has thrown to, behind Nuk. We fleeced the Seahawks for Adams and we have the ammunition to add a bona fide franchise quarterback instead of rolling the dice on the lightbulb switching on for Darnold or a rookie quarterback not named Trevor Lawrence. If Watson has a no trade clause, then he can veto a trade to a team that might offer Texans more than Douglas' best offer which tilts the playing field in favour of the Jets. Look, it does strip the Jets of a few first round picks but the Jets have four first round picks for the next two years. Adding Watson, other free agents and some well chosen rookies catapults this team into contention in the East and means that we don't have to deal with Allen and Watson for the next 10 years. Douglas should be kicking the tyres in a trade, especially as he just hired a head coach that Watson was keen to see get an interview in Houston 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smashmouth Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 54 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: Yep. The Jags have 2 1st's this year and Minshew just to start with. Wont happen though since Trevor will be a marketing gold mine for the Jax owner. 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: This. The Jags also could offer more than the Jets. 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: The Dolphins are in a much better position then the jets to get watson. The Jags are not going to be in this so you guys can forget about it. There is no way in hell The Texans will Trade Watson within the division. When it comes to the Jets and Dolphins the Jets have more draft capital and they have the more desirable pick at #2 so nothing you guys are saying here makes any sense at all. Keep in mind Watson has already said he wanted to play for Bienimy or Saleh he recommended both of them to the Texans and they refused. Last time I looked Saleh does not coach the Dolphins. In respect to our leverage in Landing Watson all Joe Douglas has to do is let this play out and deteriorate further to the point the Texans have to move Watson. It can reach that stage and TBH I would let that play out because as of this moment the price may be too steep, until this begins to unravel, if it does at all. If the Texans trade with the Jets the Texans have the option to pick their QB not named Lawrence so that gives them the option of Landing Fields or Wilson with the Jets pick. If they take Miami's pick they get who falls to them and that is certainly not more valuable than what the Jets have to offer. They can also trade out of the Jets pick and obtain more picks if they like a guy like Mac Jones which would not be a terrible decision for a team that will basically be starting over and if this is the case they would probably be even better off trading Watt as well to grab more picks. The Jets have more leverage here than you think and if things get really bad to the point Watson tells Houston to **** off and wont play for them it gets even better. At that point it would become a reality that the Jets could get him for less than you would think. If I were in Douglas' position and things were getting out of control My first offer would be The #2 and Darnold if that's not enough I would add a second rounder as well and let that float around a bit. If that fails my final offer would be This years #2 plus Pick # 23 (or next years #1) and Sam Darnold that would be my final offer and I would take that to the draft. If Watson gives the Texans the ultimatum they would be crazy to turn that down. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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