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We all know he entered this too inexperienced and completely messed up in 2018.  Set this franchise back and maybe even ruined Sam.  We've beat that horse to death now.

But I'll give the guy credit, because he heard the criticism, evolved, and got it right this time.

Joe Douglas was allowed to run the HC search and he made the right hire.  The reporting structure is now fixed too.  It's Douglas's show with GM and HC on the same page.

Even if it is a bit late, thanks Chris.  I feel better about the future leadership of this organization than any time Woody has owned this team.  Of course, this being the Jets, now that Woody is back Chris is no longer in charge, just when he seemed to be moving up the Johnson bros power rankings.

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jetscrazey
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We all know he entered this too inexperienced and completely messed up in 2018.  Set this franchise back and maybe even ruined Sam.  We've beat that horse to death now. But I'll give the guy cred

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He gets no credit for doing something a bunch of neanderthal jets fans like us on here knew for 5 years. Better late than never?  I suppose.

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Demoting himself is the smartest thing CJ has done.

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1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

He gets no credit for doing something a bunch of neanderthal jets fans like us on here knew for 5 years.

Better late than never?  I suppose.

Right. better late than never is the name of the day. 

OP is correct. At least CJ wasn't too proud to admit his mistakes and corrected them. Most guys at that financial level have no ability to do that.  I'll buy into giving the guy some cred. 

But yes. Any one of us could have done this job much much better than we've seen this past decade. 40 years really if you take out a handful of years. ?

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46 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said:

Credit? To finally shut the f*ck up and get out of the way? I don’t know about that. 

I think he deserved credit for doing what it took to convince Joe Douglas to come and giving him a 6 year contract. He recognized a good gm after Woody hired Idzik and Mac. He deserves further credit for letting Joe head the search and pick the right guy without interference. I hope Woody does what you say and shuts up and stays out of the way. 

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Chris has proved himself multiple times over to be the significantly dumber of the Johnsons, which is no easy task.  The retention of Maccagnan and hiring of Gase were two of the most blatantly obvious of idiotic moves in team history from the very moment they were made, and are directly responsible for the dumpster fire this team was up until the past few weeks.  His incompetency to contribute anything of value is not some great strength, as it is literally the same exact reason he kept Maccagnan last time around, and also had him heavily involved in the HC hiring then.  The only thing that has really changed since then is our reason for hope that the guy they did the same exact thing with 2 years later isn't nearly as incompetent.

Woody is by no measure a great owner, but the team at least saw a few stretches of moderate success throughout his years, while the entire time with Chris was the biggest cluster**** this team has been since the Kotite years.

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3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Christopher Johnson has proven nothing but failure.

No doubt Woody Johnson was in on the Robert Saleh  hiring. 

No doubt?

How was that?  CJ kept him in the loop?  Woody never talked to Woody, hasnt met him.  

Saleh said the reason he wanted to come to the Jets was CJ, JD & Hymie

CJ hired JD.  

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

No doubt?

How was that?  CJ kept him in the loop?  Woody never talked to Woody, hasnt met him.  

Saleh said the reason he wanted to come to the Jets was CJ, JD & Hymie

CJ hired JD.  

 

 

Woody Johnson was involved in the hiring in some way shape or form. 

He didn't allow CJ to choose the next HC on his own. 

JD probably had the most say and recommended RS to WJ

CJ hired him with WJ approval. 

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18 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Christopher Johnson has proven nothing but failure.

No doubt Woody Johnson was in on the Robert Saleh  hiring. 

Saleh said he has never spoken to Woody. You should listen to the Saleh interview on Michael Kay. He credits CJ, Joe and Hymie. Hopes to one day meet Woody.

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On 1/22/2021 at 8:08 AM, joewilly12 said:

Woody Johnson was involved in the hiring in some way shape or form. 

He didn't allow CJ to choose the next HC on his own. 

JD probably had the most say and recommended RS to WJ

CJ hired him with WJ approval. 

He at best was told about Saleh and that he was being hired.  

CJ chose the coach on his own

Like he chose the GM on his own.

Like he fired Gase on his own after hiring Gase on his own.  

How would Woody have the ability to like or dislike the hire when Saleh wasnt even a DC when WJ left, would have no basis to like or dislike the hire.  

 

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1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

He at best was told about Saleh and that he was being hired.  

CJ chose the coach on his own

Like he chose the GM on his own.

Like he fired Gase on his own after hiring Gase on his own.  

You can make it up to back up your point though

Not making anything up. 

Im offering my opinion just like you are. 

Truthfully I think JD had more to say in the hire than CJ. 

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49 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said:

Chris has proved himself multiple times over to be the significantly dumber of the Johnsons, which is no easy task.  The retention of Maccagnan and hiring of Gase were two of the most blatantly obvious of idiotic moves in team history from the very moment they were made, and are directly responsible for the dumpster fire this team was up until the past few weeks.  His incompetency to contribute anything of value is not some great strength, as it is literally the same exact reason he kept Maccagnan last time around, and also had him heavily involved in the HC hiring then.  The only thing that has really changed since then is our reason for hope that the guy they did the same exact thing with 2 years later isn't nearly as incompetent.

Woody is by no measure a great owner, but the team at least saw a few stretches of moderate success throughout his years, while the entire time with Chris was the biggest cluster**** this team has been since the Kotite years.

If Woody wasn't a bozo he wouldn't have scared away Belichick when Hess died.  Woody hired Mac, as well as Idzik, so let's call the brothers equally intellectually limited.

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26 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Not making anything up. 

Im offering my opinion just like you are. 

Truthfully I think JD had more to say in the hire than CJ. 

Joe, its a little more than an opinion, its kind of common sense.  You dont leave control to your bother and then while having no knowledge of a person approve or disapprove of his hire.  WJ has no real opinion of JD for that matter. 

I 100% agree that JD was the driving force to hire Saleh, that makes sense, his career is tied to it, he has to work with every day.  He wanted Saleh and as long as CJ didnt hate the pick, he was signing off.  

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22 minutes ago, Bronx said:

Thank you CJ for giving us a 10 year drought and having this awesome coach fall into your lap (should also thank Urban Meyer).  

We got lucky, very lucky.

No. We didn't get lucky. Joe Douglas and Chris Johnson had to convince the hottest ticket in the NFL to come to a disaster of an organization. 

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1 minute ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

You have to have Chris Johnson Derangement Syndrome to not acknowledge that he is 2-0 with his last two big decisions. Chris Johnson had the final say on hiring JD and Coach Saleh. Even if we believe that these two decisions were no-brainers, he was still the one making the final decision. 

Especially after happily predicting that CJ would F it up.  Like he would F up the GM hire.  Whatever Saleh turns into we know he was a prime target of all but one team.  Was the only coach to interview with 6 of the 7 teams.  And where he wanted to go was the Jets.  

Have to give him credit for realizing the Gase hire was a mistake and dumping him.  Wasnt too proud and admitted the mistake by firing as some predicted he wouldnt.  

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In the last two years, Chris/Woody Johnson and Jim Dolan have both appeared to learn how to 'not do it wrong' for the first time in decades.  The Wilpons were never going to learn that, but they finally were forced to sell the team to someone who seems to get it as well.

What the actual hell is going on with NY sports?  I don't recognize this.

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35 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

You have to have Chris Johnson Derangement Syndrome to not acknowledge that he is 2-0 with his last two big decisions. Chris Johnson had the final say on hiring JD and Coach Saleh. Even if we believe that these two decisions were no-brainers, he was still the one making the final decision. 

Im a JD fan but what's he done that's so exemplary???   Coach?  Hasn't even put on a Jets hat yet.  Let's not anoint them just yet,

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