Beerfish Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think even giving McCown an interview is such an affront to the hiring process that Watson should demand a trade tonight. Houston should demand an extra 1st rounder from the jets just due to this outrage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think even giving McCown an interview is such an affront to the hiring process that Watson should demand a trade tonight. I have to imagine he’s the one suggesting it. Like Lebron with Ty Lue and Kd with Nash. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morny Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Well, it actually could be exactly what Watson wants. A former QB, recognized as a good guy by all. Smart, long career. Understands players etc.n. Does Watson know him? We really don't know the motivations of even bringing him in. True. But if we take at face value the fact that Watson is concerned about the discrimination factor in terms of the Texans, AND he is upset they didn’t bring in Bienemy originally based on personal recommendations that Watson had received about his coaching ability, and his history of success. If the Texans then hire a white HC with zero coaching experience, over the black HC with buckets of coaching experience and personal recommendations, who Watson supports... ....it isn’t too big of a jump to think Watson might not be happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Caldwell's 36-28 record with 2 wildcard berths in Detroit are now commonly referred to as the Golden Age of Lion Football. Hmmm....isn’t that a better w- l record than any jets coach including weeb? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: I have to imagine he’s the one suggesting it. Like Lebron with Ty Lue and Kd with Nash. Maybe? But given what we know about his *alleged* demands for the process to include minority candidates, hard to imagine that he’d be cool with this clear slight of Bieniemy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 Pretty succinct. Even outside of the race issue, there are a looooot of dudes who have been grinding for decades for a shot at a coaching job, and for a guy like McCown to get interviewed for the big chair? Yikes. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Pretty succinct. Even outside of the race issue, there are a looooot of dudes who have been grinding for decades for a shot at a coaching job, and for a guy like McCown to get interviewed for the big chair? Yikes. Maybe he’s being thrown a bone to get interviewing experience. He’s obviously well liked. Kind of like the silver lining of the Rooney Rule for coaching candidates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 He's no Steve Nash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Josh? For HC? I think they called him in to see if he wanted to continue playing in 2021 and news broke out he wants to be the HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Wow talk about a quick jump. Qb to hc almost. but yea it only adds to the deshawn watson thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: Maybe he’s being thrown a bone to get interviewing experience. He’s obviously well liked. Kind of like the silver lining of the Rooney Rule for coaching candidates. That would be a massive bone, and on a team whose front office is already supposed to a dumpster fire. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 53 minutes ago, dbatesman said: A pastor named Jack Easterby has set himself up as Rasputin: Lone Star, and is generally thought to be leading the franchise right now. Caldwell and--in particular, McCown--are both strongly and vocally religious. You can connect the dots. 100% hail mary conversion rate. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: The faith part. Maybe my reading comprehension isn’t up to par with you NYers, but I’m not understanding what faith has to do with this. Faith in what? McCown as an HC? Faith religiously speaking? It was weirdly worded for me. Clearly he was talking about religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 No way lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ghost420 said: Clearly he was talking about religion. Clearly not clearly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: The white folk Yup it’s not...... never mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 36 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Pretty succinct. Even outside of the race issue, there are a looooot of dudes who have been grinding for decades for a shot at a coaching job, and for a guy like McCown to get interviewed for the big chair? Yikes. Yeah but isn’t this what we are trying to change here? He isn’t part of the “club” yet because he hasn’t put in his dues? There is no line it’s either qualified or not, no more giving jobs to guys because they grinder for years and get the gig undeserving just because he is known commodity to the good old boys club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: The faith part. Maybe my reading comprehension isn’t up to par with you NYers, but I’m not understanding what faith has to do with this. Faith in what? McCown as an HC? Faith religiously speaking? It was weirdly worded for me. My guy, don't look too deep into it. He's clearly talking about religion lol. As a follower of Christ, the foundation of our spirituality is faith. And Josh McCown is a follower in Christ as well. So both the Texans owner and McCown are big in faith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Can’t feel bad for millionaires interviewing millionaires. Open your eyes and focus on real problems people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I mean, I get it. Everyone wants to find the hot young new head coach and everyone raves about McCown but to go from the QBs coach at your son's high school to the head coach of a NFL franchise....... I understand why Watson wants outta there. Run by complete buffoons. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, morny said: True. But if we take at face value the fact that Watson is concerned about the discrimination factor in terms of the Texans, AND he is upset they didn’t bring in Bienemy originally based on personal recommendations that Watson had received about his coaching ability, and his history of success. If the Texans then hire a white HC with zero coaching experience, over the black HC with buckets of coaching experience and personal recommendations, who Watson supports... ....it isn’t too big of a jump to think Watson might not be happy. If this is the case it would almost have to be out of spite at this point. Saleh was on Watsons list. It’s not all about race. if you’re correct - and you very well might be - Watsons is getting traded for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 Jets get: Deshaun Watson Texans get: Sam Darnold, # 2 pick in 2021 draft, 1st round pick in 2022 draft, 2022 2nd rounder It would be a haul for the Texans because if they believe in Sam they could trade the # 2 this year for two first rounders EASY. That would be the boldest of the bold moves. Hire a player as a head coach and let him ride with Sam. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Clearly not clearly enough. I thought it was pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morny Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: If this is the case it would almost have to be out of spite at this point. Saleh was on Watsons list. It’s not all about race. if you’re correct - and you very well might be - Watsons is getting traded for sure. I wouldn’t say it’s spite. Saleh is a minority hire anyway, and Watson probably isn’t insisting that a black guy has to be HC. But to ignore a very decorated black candidate who Watson fought for until the last second, but to then happily bring in a completely inexperienced white guy. If Watson already has concerns about the views of those high up in the organisation, it doesn’t exactly help does it? Black OC wins everything and gets all the praise from the best player on Earth = Texans forced to interview White guy has zero coaching experience = interview for HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Maxman said: Jets get: Deshaun Watson Texans get: Sam Darnold, # 2 pick in 2021 draft, 1st round pick in 2022 draft, 2022 2nd rounder It would be a haul for the Texans because if they believe in Sam they could trade the # 2 this year for two first rounders EASY. That would be the boldest of the bold moves. Hire a player as a head coach and let him ride with Sam. Josh McCown and Sam Darnold would be the most suave HC/QB duo in the entire NFL. They're already so in sync! Do it, Houston! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 As much as McCown might like Darnold you’d think he likes Watson more 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post KRL Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2021 That organization is beyond a clown show right now. McCown at best could be a QB coach at this time in his career. The fact that HOU interviewed him for the HC spot shows how dysfunctional they are 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Maxman said: Jets get: Deshaun Watson Texans get: Sam Darnold, # 2 pick in 2021 draft, 1st round pick in 2022 draft, 2022 2nd rounder It would be a haul for the Texans because if they believe in Sam they could trade the # 2 this year for two first rounders EASY. That would be the boldest of the bold moves. Hire a player as a head coach and let him ride with Sam. You know I don’t think many are taking into account how valuable out #2 overall pick is. Awesome point max, that pick is more like 2 maybe even 3 1st rounders if Fields and Wilson are considered too 5 QB’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, morny said: I wouldn’t say it’s spite. Saleh is a minority hire anyway, and Watson probably isn’t insisting that a black guy has to be HC. But to ignore a very decorated black candidate who Watson fought for until the last second, but to then happily bring in a completely inexperienced white guy. If Watson already has concerns about the views of those high up in the organisation, it doesn’t exactly help does it? Black OC wins everything and gets all the praise from the best player on Earth = Texans forced to interview White guy has zero coaching experience = interview for HC. Bienemy is on the list though - he’s getting an interview. Ultimately I do think he ends up getting hired and Watson stays where he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, choon328 said: This is really interesting. This would make a trade involving Darnold much much more likely. Well, he meant a lot to Sam. What if? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, morny said: But to ignore a very decorated black candidate who Watson fought for until the last second, but to then happily bring in a completely inexperienced white guy. If Watson already has concerns about the views of those high up in the organisation, it doesn’t exactly help does it? Yeah, it's pretty awesome actually. I hope Houston hires McCown, and pushes DW over the line if they haven't done so already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, KRL said: That organization is beyond a clown show right now. McCown at best could be a QB coach at this time in his career. The fact that HOU interviewed him for the HC spot shows how dysfunctional they are How do you know that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: How do you know that? Anything is possible, but experience running a team or even one side of the ball probably helps. Has he ever been more than the old journeyman mentor qb player/coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: Anything is possible, but experience running a team or even one side of the ball probably helps. Has he ever been more than the old journeyman mentor qb player/coach? He was the QB coach for his son's HS in Texas, that's all the coaching experience he has AFAIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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