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49ers injuries and conditioning program: should Saleh trust Galac?


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It's amazing how the D kept teams in check even after losing 8 starters at some point. Here is a list of all the injuries sustained on both sides of the ball.

Did the 49ers had conditioning issues? 

 QB Jimmy Garoppolo

    • Injury: Ankle
    • 2020 cap hit: $26,600,000
    • Potential return: Week 14
       
  • CB Richard Sherman
    • Injury: Calf
    • 2020 cap hit: $13,987,500
    • Potential return: Week 11
       
  • DT Solomon Thomas
    • Injury: ACL
    • 2020 cap hit: $8,739,388
    • Potential return: 2021
       
  • DE Nick Bosa
    • Injury: ACL
    • 2020 cap hit: $7,494,836
    • Potential return: 2021
       
  • DE Dee Ford
    • Injury: Back
    • 2020 cap hit: $6,404,375
    • Potential return: Week 12
       
  • TE George Kittle
    • Injury: Foot
    • 2020 cap hit: $5,807,574
    • Potential return: Week 16
       
  • RB Raheem Mostert
    • Injury: Ankle
    • 2020 cap hit: $3,333,333
    • Potential return: Week 10
       
  • C Ben Garland
    • Injury: Calf
    • 2020 cap hit: $2,000,000
    • Potential return: Week 10
       
  • LB Mark Nzeocha
    • Injury: Quad
    • 2020 cap hit: $1,500,000
    • Potential return: Week 10
       
  • DE Ezekiel Ansah
    • Injury: Biceps
    • 2020 cap hit: $1,450,000
    • Potential return: 2021
       
  • TE Jordan Reed
    • Injury: Ankle
    • 2020 cap hit: $1,050,000
    • Potential return: Week 9/10
       
  • WR Jalen Hurd
    • Injury: ACL
    • 2020 cap hit: $972,654
    • Potential return: 2021
       
  • RB Jeff Wilson Jr.
    • Injury: Ankle
    • 2020 cap hit: $573,531
    • Potential return: Week 12
       
  • WR Chris Thompson
    • Injury: Undisclosed
    • 2020 cap hit: $425,000
    • Potential return: Unknown
       
  • WR Jauan Jennings
    • Injury: Undisclosed
    • 2020 cap hit: $142,800
    • Potential return: Unknown

We had our own streak of injuries last year and the conditioning program was suspect. We need to be physically prepared for a high energy, hard hitting atmosphere the entire game. Hopefully, we won't have face another bad streak of ham strings issues. Keeping fingers crossed for an effective conditioning program.

We currently have Justus Galac listed. How comfortable are you with this crew? It looks like he is staying, thoughts?

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I hate these strength and conditioning coaches who dont train players into their ACLs staying in one piece.  Or ankles to not break.  All training issues.  

Why does someone always need to be blamed.  Injuries happen, strength and conditioning isnt to stop bones or ligaments, its to keep player in the best shape 

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1 minute ago, Sammybighead said:

Yeah i don’t get this. We now blaming the trainers for random on field injuries?

There was a growing concern on this board this year about the program. I wasn't sure if Saleh was going to hire his own crew, especially after the amount of injuries sustained ny the Jets.

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7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

I hate these strength and conditioning coaches who dont train players into their ACLs staying in one piece.  Or ankles to not break.  All training issues.  

Why does someone always need to be blamed.  Injuries happen, strength and conditioning isnt to stop bones or ligaments, its to keep player in the best shape 

It is a legitimate question to ask if it is something he's doing or not doing.

I tend to agree that it's mostly luck or brining in players that are not injury prone - but it's a worthy question.

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2 minutes ago, DetroitRed said:

They went to the SB in 2019. End thread


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That's really the thing. If this was routine every year for 3+ years in a row, it warrants asking if this is a cause & effect with the strength & conditioning program. If it's just isolated to 2020 with its unprecedented offseason/TC (and to a degree, into the reg season)? Meh.

He may be a great asset in this dept & he may not, but excessive injuries in 2020 alone isn't enough evidence. 

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25 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

It is a legitimate question to ask if it is something he's doing or not doing.

I tend to agree that it's mostly luck or brining in players that are not injury prone - but it's a worthy question.

No, ACLs and ankles have nothing to do with strength and conditioning.  Or broken bones. 

Bosa's ACL wasnt going stay intact through magic training.  

Think a better argument was the absence of training camps had more to do with a lot of the injuries we saw a year ago.  Were the 49rs a injury riddled team before or did it all go wrong in a quick time frame, early in the season?

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Bronx said:

It's amazing how the D kept teams in check even after losing 8 starters at some point. Here is a list of all the injuries sustained on both sides of the ball.

Did the 49ers had conditioning issues? 

 QB Jimmy Garoppolo

    • Injury: Ankle
    • 2020 cap hit: $26,600,000
    • Potential return: Week 14
       
  • CB Richard Sherman
    • Injury: Calf
    • 2020 cap hit: $13,987,500
    • Potential return: Week 11
       
  • DT Solomon Thomas
    • Injury: ACL
    • 2020 cap hit: $8,739,388
    • Potential return: 2021
       
  • DE Nick Bosa
    • Injury: ACL
    • 2020 cap hit: $7,494,836
    • Potential return: 2021
       
  • DE Dee Ford
    • Injury: Back
    • 2020 cap hit: $6,404,375
    • Potential return: Week 12
       
  • TE George Kittle
    • Injury: Foot
    • 2020 cap hit: $5,807,574
    • Potential return: Week 16
       
  • RB Raheem Mostert
    • Injury: Ankle
    • 2020 cap hit: $3,333,333
    • Potential return: Week 10
       
  • C Ben Garland
    • Injury: Calf
    • 2020 cap hit: $2,000,000
    • Potential return: Week 10
       
  • LB Mark Nzeocha
    • Injury: Quad
    • 2020 cap hit: $1,500,000
    • Potential return: Week 10
       
  • DE Ezekiel Ansah
    • Injury: Biceps
    • 2020 cap hit: $1,450,000
    • Potential return: 2021
       
  • TE Jordan Reed
    • Injury: Ankle
    • 2020 cap hit: $1,050,000
    • Potential return: Week 9/10
       
  • WR Jalen Hurd
    • Injury: ACL
    • 2020 cap hit: $972,654
    • Potential return: 2021
       
  • RB Jeff Wilson Jr.
    • Injury: Ankle
    • 2020 cap hit: $573,531
    • Potential return: Week 12
       
  • WR Chris Thompson
    • Injury: Undisclosed
    • 2020 cap hit: $425,000
    • Potential return: Unknown
       
  • WR Jauan Jennings
    • Injury: Undisclosed
    • 2020 cap hit: $142,800
    • Potential return: Unknown

We had our own streak of injuries last year and the conditioning program was suspect. We need to be physically prepared for a high energy, hard hitting atmosphere the entire game. Hopefully, we won't have face another bad streak of ham strings issues. Keeping fingers crossed for an effective conditioning program.

We currently have Justus Galac listed. How comfortable are you with this crew? It looks like he is staying, thoughts?

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Idk why this needs to keep getting repeated. Every team in the NFL has a rash of soft tissue injuries due to the lack of off season conditioning programs and no pre-season. It wasn't just the Jets. 

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4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Tendons arent ligaments.  ACLs and I would guess most ankle injuries are ligament injuries

The article talks about weakened muscles as a possible cause, football players dont fit that bill 

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2 minutes ago, NYJ37/12 said:

I see four soft tissue injuries that could be from either a lack of conditioning or too much conditioning.

The entire league has injury issues since the new guidelines for lack of contact and practice time

My point was whether Saleh should consider bringing his own crew. The thread wasn't clear enough.

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4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Tendons arent ligaments.  ACLs and I would guess most ankle injuries are ligament injuries

The article talks about weakened muscles as a possible cause, football players dont fit that bill 

How about this one then?

https://www.upmc.com/services/sports-medicine/services/acl-program/prevention

OMG...not everything needs to be an argument.  It's okay to be wrong on things some times.  Of course conditioning and training matters.

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3 minutes ago, NYJ37/12 said:

I see four soft tissue injuries that could be from either a lack of conditioning or too much conditioning.

The entire league has injury issues since the new guidelines for lack of contact and practice time

The league had 100+ years of the same routine, camps to build up towards the regular season.  COVID changed the 100+ year routine and it sure seemed like soft tissue injuries, like hamstrings, quads, muscle tears were up, league wide, not just 49r's.  

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5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

How about this one then?

https://www.upmc.com/services/sports-medicine/services/acl-program/prevention

OMG...not everything needs to be an argument.  It's okay to be wrong on things some times.  Of course conditioning and training matters.

All designed to lower the risks.  Not one that prevents injury.  Thats a huge difference.  Without training there would be a lot more injuries, we get that. Doesnt mean if a handful of the 53 blow a ligament that it happened because of training.  Did Garoppolos ankle blow up because of training or because his foot planted and his leg went the other way?  Like 99.9% of ankle injuries.  When a lineman plants a cleat and lower leg with all his weight going the other way or when another player puts 300 lbs on a joint is it training? 

Even the poorest PT has a team of finely tuned athletes, thats not what the article is talking about.

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15 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

No, ACLs and ankles have nothing to do with strength and conditioning.  Or broken bones. 

Bosa's ACL wasnt going stay intact through magic training.  

Think a better argument was the absence of training camps had more to do with a lot of the injuries we saw a year ago.  Were the 49rs a injury riddled team before or did it all go wrong in a quick time frame, early in the season?

 

 

Exactly, the soft tissue type injuries like hamstring,  quad , calf and groin pulls/strains are the things that can be mitigated to some point with proper conditioning . These were the things most impacted by the reduction of in person practice and training.  

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2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

All designed to lower the risks.  Not one that prevents injury.  Thats a huge difference.  Without training there would be a lot more injuries, we get that. Doesnt mean if a handful of the 53 blow a ligament that it happened because of training.  Did Garoppolos ankle blow up because of training or because his foot planted and his leg went the other way?  Like 99.9% of ankle injuries.  When a lineman plants a cleat and lower leg with all his weight going the other way or when another player puts 300 lbs on a joint is it training? 

Even the poorest PT has a team of finely tuned athletes, thats not what the article is talking about.

Stop man.  It's okay, you're still a good guy.  No one thinks any less of you for being wrong about something.

The whole point was it's reasonable to question if he's doing the right things.  You're saying the trainer has nothing to do with it.  The FACT is - he does.

 

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4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Stop man.  It's okay, you're still a good guy.  No one thinks any less of you for being wrong about something.

OK, you're right, thanks for telling me that I'm not right here, that you are and I shouldn't be unaccepting 

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The care and preventive treatment for soft tissue injuries actually occurs on the training table or during flexibility and mobility work. Strength and conditioning are two important factors,  but do they have someone on staff that specializes in mobility? Tight hamstrings, bad hip mobility and tight Achilles tendons would lead to injuries and I would blame that more on those factors. If they don't have a mobility coach doing drills and setting up a regimen, they should get one. 

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