Bronx 812 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just in case the whole Watson thing falls off. By the way, Stafford is the safest option but too costly for a short term. I think Zach Wilson will be it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Mike135 4,877 Posted January 24 Popular Post Share Posted January 24 Sam. 9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Irish Jet 236,802 Posted January 24 Popular Post Share Posted January 24 Obviously the rookie. Stafford would obviously be better than Simple Sam, but he's not worth the investment as we're not set up to win now. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post pointman 4,959 Posted January 24 Popular Post Share Posted January 24 NO ONE WANTS DARNOLD. no one that matters* 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K_O_Brien 815 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Rookie, by a distance. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slimjasi 10,324 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Rookie. The other two options don't make any sense. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScarletKnight89 3,519 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 A rookie with pick #2. But if the Jets didn't want to go with a rookie, I'd trade for Matt Stafford instead of sticking with Sam. Stafford won't be interested in coming here though and I doubt the Jets would be interested in him. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronx 812 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: A rookie with pick #2. But if the Jets didn't want to go with a rookie, I'd trade for Matt Stafford instead of sticking with Sam. Stafford won't be interested in coming here though and I doubt the Jets would be interested in him. 99.9% Zach Wilson will be our next QB. Start building up kid! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreenFish 4,261 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The thing with Stafford is that he likely only has 4 or 5 years left of top end play. We are not a QB away. So at best we are contenders for 2 or 3 years before we need another reset. He should go to a team like the Colts or the 49ers. I’ve become indifferent between a rookie or Darnold. But both are preferred over Stafford. But it’s all about Watson until we get a definitive no he is not available. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beerfish 33,498 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Depends on the cost to obtain. Stafford would be my first choice, then darnold. But stafford would have to come cheap. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beerfish 33,498 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Green bay is setting up the hitch and pitch from davanta adams to jamal williams or aaron jones some time this game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dunnie 2,490 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Stafford and Darnold .. that is all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Warfish 29,065 Posted January 24 Popular Post Share Posted January 24 26 minutes ago, Bronx said: Just in case the whole Watson thing falls off. By the way, Stafford is the safest option but too costly for a short term. I think Zach Wilson will be it. Personally? Stafford > Rookie > Darnold Stafford is a known, solid veteran who would help the Jets compete instantly. Not win the Division or playoff games, but compete, week in, week out, and not embarrass ourselves at QB or Offense. A rookie is a 70/30 shot. 30% maybe great. 70% bust. All depends on the GM and the scouting and the pool of rookies available. Darnold is already a bust, with major, serious flaws that likely cannot at this point be fixed. If we want to win 8 or more games and play games in Dec. that matter in 2021, Stafford is the best choice of the three. If we want to take a chance at greatness, and don't care if we're a 4 win team in 2021, then the rookie is the right choice. Darnold is only the right choice if no other option exists. 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Icer 3,216 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 In order of preference: Zach Wilson / Justin Fields Matt Stafford Sam Darnold In order of likelihood Sam Darnold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnysd 7,432 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Wilson then Sam then , no dnt want Stafford regardless Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QB1 1,350 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Rookie or Darnold GTfO with stafford Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mo Lew 678 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Watson Sam Wilson Fields Stafford Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronx 812 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 17 minutes ago, QB1 said: Rookie or Darnold GTfO with stafford He is a decent QB top 10 in the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sperm Edwards 346,974 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 28 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Depends on the cost to obtain. Stafford would be my first choice, then darnold. But stafford would have to come cheap. Cheap is a relative term, but with less than half the career remaining, and less than half the contract remaining, Stafford wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) cost nearly as much as Watson. Depending on the price it takes to get him, hell yes I’d take him over Darnold (no-brainer) and probably over an unknown rookie who may cost this franchise another 2-3 years before they agree to go back to the drawing board yet again (after wasting still more rookies’ cheap seasons and new FA acquisitions around him). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodigal Syndicate 758 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Rookie QB by a long shot. It's not even a discussion. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 121,146 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Watson. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sperm Edwards 346,974 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Rookie QB by a long shot. It's not even a discussion. The only thing that’s not in the discussion is Darnold. If we could flip just next year’s Seattle pick - or even better, just the pick(s) we could get for Darnold, or just Darnold himself - for Stafford? Yeah I’m making that trade and throwing a kitchen sink worth of talent around an excellent QB instead of yet another guess. I’m at a disadvantage not knowing enough of these QB prospects to believe in any of them, but that’s me. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spoot-Face 25,332 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Rookie QB, duh. After that, and this may shock some, I'd sooner suck with Sam for another year to grab a QB high in 2022, rather than hitch our wagon to a stop-gap like Matthew Stafford. I guess I'm just skeptical that he's an "elite" QB. Convince me otherwise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeremy2020 5,138 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Rookie. This isn't even a question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jet Life 1,615 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Rookie by a long shot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeet Ulrich 2,000 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1. Rookie QB on a rookie pay scale 2. Stafford Distant 3. Darnold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UntouchableCrew 6,096 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Rookie for sure. Stafford can still play but doesn't make sense for a team like ours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodigal Syndicate 758 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: The only thing that’s not in the discussion is Darnold. If we could flip just next year’s Seattle pick - or even better, just the pick(s) we could get for Darnold, or just Darnold himself - for Stafford? Yeah I’m making that trade and throwing a kitchen sink worth of talent around an excellent QB instead of yet another guess. I’m at a disadvantage not knowing enough of these QB prospects to believe in any of them, but that’s me. What possible reason would you want stafford? This team is barren of talent and you want to give up a pick for an old QB who has shown his entire career he cant elevate a team with his play? 0-3 in the playoffs with not a single good performance between them. Years of losing and coach after coach. Let stafford go to the colts and waste their time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeet Ulrich 2,000 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Rookie QB, duh. After that, and this may shock some, I'd sooner suck with Sam for another year to grab a QB high in 2022, rather than hitch our wagon to a stop-gap like Matthew Stafford. I guess I'm just skeptical that he's an "elite" QB. Convince me otherwise. Stafford is definitely a top 10-12 QB in the league. I hate to compare sports but it's a perfect comparison to a gatekeeper in combat sports - not a championship level QB but definitely a skilled and talented player who is a cut above the average QBs in the league. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BUM-KNEE 15,067 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Sam for sure 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronx 812 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Stafford is definitely a top 10-12 QB in the league. I hate to compare sports but it's a perfect comparison to a gatekeeper in combat sports - not a championship level QB but definitely a skilled and talented player who is a cut above the average QBs in the league. And a durable QB. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sperm Edwards 346,974 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Rookie QB, duh. After that, and this may shock some, I'd sooner suck with Sam for another year to grab a QB high in 2022, rather than hitch our wagon to a stop-gap like Matthew Stafford. I guess I'm just skeptical that he's an "elite" QB. Convince me otherwise. You don’t need elite. You need good enough, and he’s easily good enough. He became an even better QB since losing his impossibly-great WR1. He may not be where he was physically 10 years ago, but that’s what all those years of experience bring, that (statistically) you won’t get from a rookie for a long time, even a deserved #1 overall pick like Stafford. I’d take elite over Stafford, and would ante up at least another high 1st rounder to get it (considering the other flaws such a QB masks). Stafford is a better QB than Eli, who’s got 2 rings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sperm Edwards 346,974 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: What possible reason would you want stafford? This team is barren of talent and you want to give up a pick for an old QB who has shown his entire career he cant elevate a team with his play? 0-3 in the playoffs with not a single good performance between them. Years of losing and coach after coach. Let stafford go to the colts and waste their time. See post above. Also he’s not old; he’s just not young. Everyone who isn’t in his mid-20s isn’t old. I don’t put him in the same silo as the 2 QBs we’re watching right now, but he’s a better QB than others who have rings. The idea that this team - or any team - is 3 years away from competence is simply wrong. Stafford isn’t my first choice, and I wouldn’t throw multiple 1s to get him like I would with Watson, but the Jets would still have more than enough in their quiver for a good GM to build a winner as early as this year or as late as next year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warfish 29,065 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: I guess I'm just skeptical that he's an "elite" QB. Convince me otherwise. Why would someone try and convince you of something that isn't true? Stafford clearly isn't an elite QB, i.e. top 5 or top 10. He's a solid 10-15 type. 2nd tier. That would be several tiers higher than the level of QB play we'd have for the past 20 years or so. I appreciate fans see things as all or nothing, but there are several gradations between G.O.A.T. and a goat. Stafford is upper middle class. He's not upper class (a la Mahomes). He's not middle class or lower class (a la Darnold). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodigal Syndicate 758 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: See post above. Also he’s not old; he’s just not young. Everyone who isn’t in his mid-20s isn’t old. I don’t put him in the same silo as the 2 QBs we’re watching right now, but he’s a better QB than others who have rings. The idea that this team - or any team - is 3 years away from competence is simply wrong. Stafford isn’t my first choice, and I wouldn’t throw multiple 1s to get him like I would with Watson, but the Jets would still have more than enough in their quiver for a good GM to build a winner as early as this year or as late as next year. Point is, he isnt getting better at 32. He wasnt good enough in his prime, he will never be good enough. He lucked out playing on the lions where nobody cared about them. On a big market team he would have been hammered for his play. He has a Jay Cutler type demeanor where he doesnt seem to care even 1 bit about winning. We shouldn't want any part of him. At best he makes us a mediocre to bad treadmill team. Just like his current team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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