FidelioJet 9,705 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Wilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spoot-Face 27,012 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 24 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: Even project guys don't sit for 3-4 years. You have to pay them. If you trade for Stafford he's the unquestioned starter for at least 3 years. That's not selling me on Stafford. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaSteve 5,824 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Bronx said: Just in case the whole Watson thing falls off. By the way, Stafford is the safest option but too costly for a short term. I think Zach Wilson will be it. Depends....Moving from 7 to 2 and guaranteeing you a rookie replacement seems to be fair. They are not going to get much for him, because teams know he is due $10 5 days into the start of the new season. They will wait for him to be released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaSteve 5,824 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Spoot-Face said: That's not selling me on Stafford. It should. Top 15 QB who throws 4,000 yards a year and has a career 90.0 QB rating with two years of control left in his contract. Still have enough ammo to get a QB this year and let them sit for a year and learn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sperm Edwards 348,346 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Yes. How dare someone examine how a player played when he made the playoffs on a good team. Brady just threw 3 picks and is going to the SB. Takes more than 1 player, sister. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodigal Syndicate 791 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Brady just threw 3 picks and is going to the SB. Takes more than 1 player, sister. I'm actually rooting for stafford to go to a playoff team just so when he chokes again next season I can see the excuses people come up with for him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,446 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: It should. Top 15 QB who throws 4,000 yards a year and has a career 90.0 QB rating with two years of control left in his contract. Still have enough ammo to get a QB this year and let them sit for a year and learn. How many playoff games has he won? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,446 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: I'm actually rooting for stafford to go to a playoff team just so when he chokes again next season I can see the excuses people come up with for him. That Calvin Johnson guy sucked 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
batman10023 1,776 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Warfish said: Why would someone try and convince you of something that isn't true? Stafford clearly isn't an elite QB, i.e. top 5 or top 10. He's a solid 10-15 type. 2nd tier. That would be several tiers higher than the level of QB play we'd have for the past 20 years or so. I appreciate fans see things as all or nothing, but there are several gradations between G.O.A.T. and a goat. Stafford is upper middle class. He's not upper class (a la Mahomes). He's not middle class or lower class (a la Darnold). Mahomes is jeff bezos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philc1 14,446 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Brady just threw 3 picks and is going to the SB. Takes more than 1 player, sister. It kinda does Quote Link to post Share on other sites
More Cowbell 5,251 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Bronx said: Just in case the whole Watson thing falls off. By the way, Stafford is the safest option but too costly for a short term. I think Zach Wilson will be it. They is no way in Hell Stafford comes to the Jets. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spoot-Face 27,012 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: It should. Top 15 QB who throws 4,000 yards a year and has a career 90.0 QB rating with two years of control left in his contract. Still have enough ammo to get a QB this year and let them sit for a year and learn. Well, that was my initial suggestion, but the point that Skeet was making was that if you trade for Stafford then he's the unquestioned starter for 3 years and you're not drafting a QB just to sit or 3 years. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodigal Syndicate 791 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, Philc1 said: It kinda does Nevermind the fact Tampa bay hasnt made the playoffs in 13 seasons and the first season brady comes they make the SB. Yup, that was definitely a great argument to make for QBs not being the most important aspect in wins and losses. Stafford on the bucs dont even make the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NYC1969 0 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Don't care as long as one of them is throwing to Devonta. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastmover 4,003 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Sam Semper Fi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaSteve 5,824 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Philc1 said: How many playoff games has he won? One less than Deshaun Watson. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaSteve 5,824 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Well, that was my initial suggestion, but the point that Skeet was making was that if you trade for Stafford then he's the unquestioned starter for 3 years and you're not drafting a QB just to sit or 3 years. I don't think that has to be the case. Stafford is under contract for three more years, and cuttable at any time. You can still use a draft pick to have a QB sit behind him for a year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spoot-Face 27,012 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, CanadaSteve said: I don't think that has to be the case. Stafford is under contract for three more years, and cuttable at any time. You can still use a draft pick to have a QB sit behind him for a year. That I'd be okay with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dcJet 1,383 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Rookie QB, sit rookie and roll with Sam to a top ten pick, trade down. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fullblast 2,962 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, dcJet said: Rookie QB, sit rookie and roll with Sam to a top ten pick, trade down. This is the way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riggy001 353 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Regardless of qb options, sam will likely be last for me, he stinks. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lot K Tailgaters 1,007 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 If no Watson I’d keep Darnold and build around him. Unless the Jets draft Lawerence I’m not too excited on the rookie QBs and Stafford isn’t a long term solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgb 28,948 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Darnold is the worst performing QB in this NFL. Was the question rhetorical? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgb 28,948 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, dcJet said: Rookie QB, sit rookie and roll with Sam to a top ten pick, trade down. We starting the tank talk for 2021 mighty early 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodigal Syndicate 791 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 28 minutes ago, jgb said: We starting the tank talk for 2021 mighty early Trust The Process. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82nd Airborne 674 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 hours ago, dcJet said: Rookie QB, sit rookie and roll with Sam to a top ten pick, trade down. He can sit behind Sam for one year and learn from his mistakes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rangerous 4,287 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 stafford has 3 seasons left on his his contract and two of those are for big money. but not really big money like watson would want or mahommes is getting. the jets could trade for stafford and then use a high draft pick for his hare apparent maybe two or three seasons down the road. and if wilson grades out that highly then you can basically keep him on the bench for two seasons. or maybe they trade back and grab mac jones or some other qb. the thing is stafford would give them a solid qb and buy time to develop the next guy. and , in 3 years, it's not likely he'd be shot so maybe re-sign for another 2 or 3 seasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thai Jet 163,717 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Sam Wilson Stafford Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Latinlawyer 2,318 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Wilson Stafford Fields Sam Sorry but what I saw this year from Sam made me think of all the bone head things I saw from him at USC. He has not improved anywhere. I dont see any progression. I get that Gase was a huge idiot but I have not seen anything remotely resembling a franchise QB. We have to move on and let Saleh have his own QB. Watson, Wilson, or Stafford. LL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronx 1,838 Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 On 1/24/2021 at 7:23 PM, FidelioJet said: Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RJIII 180 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Trade Darnold, Stafford is very affordable and durable still for 2 years @ 20M per (steal), draft another QB this year or next and groom under Stafford. - The END Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wonderboy 4,777 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 1/24/2021 at 3:42 PM, Mike135 said: Sam. Yes Sammy Baugh would be an upgrade over Darnold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wonderboy 4,777 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, Latinlawyer said: Wilson Stafford Fields Sam Sorry but what I saw this year from Sam made me think of all the bone head things I saw from him at USC. He has not improved anywhere. I dont see any progression. I get that Gase was a huge idiot but I have not seen anything remotely resembling a franchise QB. We have to move on and let Saleh have his own QB. Watson, Wilson, or Stafford. LL He hasn’t gotten better but has steadily regressed. He looks totally lost, disinterested and disgusted. Give us all a break and trade him. It’s best for all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wonderboy 4,777 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 18 hours ago, 82nd Airborne said: He can sit behind Sam for one year and learn from his mistakes. Great. Learn how to make mistakes. I knew Sam was good for something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pointman 5,439 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 1/24/2021 at 3:34 PM, Bronx said: Just in case the whole Watson thing falls off. By the way, Stafford is the safest option but too costly for a short term. I think Zach Wilson will be it. No, definitely not, yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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