2021 NY JETS/NFL FREE AGENCY DRAFT TRADES RUMORS HAPPENINGS ***

[C Mart]

16 hours ago, CanadaSteve said:

I really don't see the point in getting Thuney if you get Linsley.  He is the better option because you move McGovern to RG and resign Elflein.  He was QUITE effective.  Cameron Clark might be ready to battle for a spot as well.

Something to consider...Almost 2 yrs younger

Pre-draft.

Scarnecchia said Monday the 2016 third-round draft pick was selected to play inside, at either guard or center, but could potentially fill in at offensive tackle in a pinch.

The Patriots have plenty of depth at guard and center, but they’re shallow at offensive tackle. Thuney played guard and tackle and practiced at center during his time at N.C. State, so despite his short 32 1/4-inch arms, many, including me, assumed he would play offensive tackle for the Patriots.

 

Matt Verderame @MattVerderame

Jul 29, 2019

Fun story from Stacking The Box today. #Patriots guard Joe Thuney is one of the league's smartest. So smart, he was advised pre-draft to only answer 39 of 50 Wonderlic questions because he might score too high and scare teams off. He listened and scored... a 39.

[Jetlife33]

Wouldn’t mind John Brown at all, won’t be killer money either. Nice depth. 

[kdels62]

This is a guy worth targeting if we don’t want to break the bank for Thuney. Also Elflein is awful.

[K_O_Brien]

 

[Jetlife33]

Just now, kdels62 said:

This is a guy worth targeting if we don’t want to break the bank for Thuney.

That’s huge, the more quality IOL on the market the better for us. 

[Rhg1084]

Wow another big name IOL hits the market!

[BornJetsFan1983]

15 hours ago, TokyoJetsFan said:

 

 

Here's a pretty cool chart

 

it seems liek there are alot of guys that would help us out. can we get like 2 or 3 of these guys or would all the contracts for them be insane? are some of these guys cheap? I wonder where on the list the players stop being upgrades for us?

[Jetlife33]

Pretty sure Zietler graded out better than Thuney last year I’ll have to double check

[RutgersJetFan]

3 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

Pretty sure Zietler graded out better than Thuney last year I’ll have to double check

If only you had some sort of device that you could have confirmed this on beforehand. 

[Team archer]

11 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

 

Joe D go get himmmmmmmmm

[kdels62]

4 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

Pretty sure Zietler graded out better than Thuney last year I’ll have to double check

PFF grades (amongst guards that played at least 50% of snaps)

Thuney: 74.2, 10th among guards

Zeitler: 65.9, 28th among guards

 

[32EBoozer]

2 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

PFF grades (amongst guards that played at least 50% of snaps)

Thuney: 74.2, 10th among guards

Zeitler: 65.9, 28th among guards

 

Still.... will be cheaper than Thuney by $10-20 mil over the life of the contract.

[kdels62]

2 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

Still.... will be cheaper than Thuney by $10-20 mil over the life of the contract.

I like Zeitler, unless he has a huge drop off he’s an improvement for our line. His grade is probably lower than past years since he played with rookies Andrew Thomas and Matt Peart. Put him on our line and build that pipeline behind him.

[Defense Wins Championships]

I want JuJu and Thuney along with an offensive youth movement. 

QB: Justin Fields (#2 overall).

WR: Denzel Mims. 

WR: Terrace Marshall Jr (2nd rounder).

WR: JuJu Smith-Schuster. 

WR: Jamison Crowder. 

LT: Mekhi Becton. 

LG: Joe Thuney. 

RB: Najee Harris (Seattle's 1st rounder).

• Explosive WRs everywhere. 

• An exciting and dominant work horse RB. 

• An offensive line with a lot of promise. 

• A young potential Franchise caliber QB with weapons surrounding him. 

✓ An offense Jet fans can look forward to watching come gameday. 

 

[nycdan]

Not sure Zeitler is where we want to go.  I'd rather get someone a bit younger and a bit better.  Nothing about their OL seemed particularly enticing.

Giants had to cut him to clear cap to have any room to chase FAs.  They still have work to do in that regard.  Solder, Engram and Peppers are really their only other options to shave any substantial cap at this point.  This is why I still don't see them as a player for ARob or any other big name this year.  

[Marshmello]

 

[section314]

How old is Zeitler?

[Lith]

35 minutes ago, Marshmello said:

 

Mr Clay obviously does not know what it is like to have eyes that are nearly 60 years old, espcially 8 hours into a work day spent sitting in front of a computer screen.

[joewilly12]

31 minutes ago, Marshmello said:

 

[joewilly12]

1 hour ago, nycdan said:

Not sure Zeitler is where we want to go.  I'd rather get someone a bit younger and a bit better.  Nothing about their OL seemed particularly enticing.

Giants had to cut him to clear cap to have any room to chase FAs.  They still have work to do in that regard.  Solder, Engram and Peppers are really their only other options to shave any substantial cap at this point.  This is why I still don't see them as a player for ARob or any other big name this year.  

Might be worth a look. May also give us a discount to stay in the area and not have to uproot his life and family. 

[Jetlife33]

1 hour ago, kdels62 said:

PFF grades (amongst guards that played at least 50% of snaps)

Thuney: 74.2, 10th among guards

Zeitler: 65.9, 28th among guards

 

Yes I was off, not sure where I heard he was the 7th ranked Guard (Thuney ranked 10th) but I obviously misunderstood it. 

[Jetlife33]

1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said:

If only you had some sort of device that you could have confirmed this on beforehand. 

Haha, got me there. I only have X amount of time at work where I can take my phone out and end up usually just staying put on this website and profootballrumors.com

[kdels62]

If he’s willing to move to guard or RT he’ll be worth a look.

[Philc1]

2 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

If he’s willing to move to guard or RT he’ll be worth a look.

He will just show him the $

[joewilly12]

Plenty of OL to pick from with all the cuts the last few days. 

[BigRy56]

Free agency is ripe with our biggest needs - EDGE, OL, WR

[C Mart]

3 hours ago, kdels62 said:

This is a guy worth targeting if we don’t want to break the bank for Thuney. Also Elflein is awful.

I could be wrong but doesn’t the Shanahan system prefer OL that are athletic/can move?

 

this is from pre-Giants 

Cons:

Range in the run game. This is something that was not a problem in his Bengals days but declined in Cleveland. He’s not immobile by any means, but others are quicker to get out to the second level on a more consistent basis.

[Tranquilo]

19 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Free agency is ripe with our biggest needs - EDGE, OL, WR

[Beerfish]

2 hours ago, Lith said:

Mr Clay obviously does not know what it is like to have eyes that are nearly 60 years old, espcially 8 hours into a work day spent sitting in front of a computer screen.

Reminds me of printed instructions these days.  Just brutal impossible to read

 

[JetPotato]

4 hours ago, C Mart said:

Something to consider...Almost 2 yrs younger

Pre-draft.

Scarnecchia said Monday the 2016 third-round draft pick was selected to play inside, at either guard or center, but could potentially fill in at offensive tackle in a pinch.

The Patriots have plenty of depth at guard and center, but they’re shallow at offensive tackle. Thuney played guard and tackle and practiced at center during his time at N.C. State, so despite his short 32 1/4-inch arms, many, including me, assumed he would play offensive tackle for the Patriots.

 

Matt Verderame @MattVerderame

Jul 29, 2019

Fun story from Stacking The Box today. #Patriots guard Joe Thuney is one of the league's smartest. So smart, he was advised pre-draft to only answer 39 of 50 Wonderlic questions because he might score too high and scare teams off. He listened and scored... a 39.

First I have heard of it, but absolutely unshocked that we now live in a world where being "too smart" is a flaw.

[joewilly12]

Connor Hughes

 

@Connor_J_Hughes

The #Jets will not be tendering versatile linebacker Harvey Langi, per source. He’ll have suitors on open market. Langi had 49 tackles Weeks 11-15. Good on special teams, too.

4:49 PM · Mar 10, 2021 from Lawrence, NJ

 

 

[kdels62]

14 minutes ago, C Mart said:

I could be wrong but doesn’t the Shanahan system prefer OL that are athletic/can move?

 

this is from pre-Giants 

Cons:

Range in the run game. This is something that was not a problem in his Bengals days but declined in Cleveland. He’s not immobile by any means, but others are quicker to get out to the second level on a more consistent basis.

Possibly true but it depends on how limited he is

 

[football guy]

Some change in tune on Curtis Samuel... more optimistic today than yesterday that the Jets will land him. His reps are pushing him in our direction. Personally, I would much rather have him than any other FA that is available ??

Still think we get beat out on Thuney by Cincinnati, but we can hope.

Don't think many other splash moves. Maybe DE? I think Jets will trade for Derek Barnett before the start of the league year, potentially this weekend, rather than pay big money for a guy on the market. Phillip Lindsay, John Brown are some under-the-radar names who Jets will show interest in. 

Kwon Alexander is an interesting name to keep an eye on. I doubt he plays much at all this year, and will assuredly start the season on the PUP. However, there's a chance the market for the Jets' LB targets (Matt Milano) just explodes, and they won't look to overpay anyone. Kwon is only 26, has a good relationship with Saleh, and the Jets may be able to swing a 2-for-1 by signing a cheap veteran plus Kwon rather than spend big on a LB. The other possibility is expressing interest in signing KA to a "long-term" deal- think Kevin Durant- a year ahead of time while stashing him on IR this year, but it would have very little guarantees, if any. 

[Tranquilo]

3 minutes ago, football guy said:

Some change in tune on Curtis Samuel... more optimistic today than yesterday that the Jets will land him. His reps are pushing him in our direction. Personally, I would much rather have him than any other FA that is available ??

Still think we get beat out on Thuney by Cincinnati, but we can hope.

Don't think many other splash moves. Maybe DE? I think Jets will trade for Derek Barnett before the start of the league year, potentially this weekend, rather than pay big money for a guy on the market. Phillip Lindsay, John Brown are some under-the-radar names who Jets will show interest in. 

Kwon Alexander is an interesting name to keep an eye on. I doubt he plays much at all this year, and will assuredly start the season on the PUP. However, there's a chance the market for the Jets' LB targets (Matt Milano) just explodes, and they won't look to overpay anyone. Kwon is only 26, has a good relationship with Saleh, and the Jets may be able to swing a 2-for-1 by signing a cheap veteran plus Kwon rather than spend big on a LB. The other possibility is expressing interest in signing KA to a "long-term" deal- think Kevin Durant- a year ahead of time while stashing him on IR this year, but it would have very little guarantees, if any. 

Curtis Samuel might be the best fit for the offense

[chad2coles]

Is there any actual evidence that McGovern is a better guard than center? My impression is that a McGovern/Thuney combo is better than a Linsley/McGovern combo.