ToonforPrez Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: *months 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Not a fan of this mock trade. https://www.pff.com/news/draft-five-2021-nfl-draft-trades-new-england-patriots-new-york-jets NEW YORK JETS MOVE FROM NO. 23 TO NO. 16 (ARIZONA CARDINALS) TO DRAFT MICHIGAN EDGE KWITY PAYE Full trade details: Jets receive: No. 16, No. 160 Cardinals receive: No. 23, No. 66 Comparison Trade: 2018 Tremaine Edmunds (Bills receive No. 16, No. 154 for No. 22, No. 65) The Jets' two starting edge rushers from 2020 signed contracts in free agency for two years, $6 million and two years, $5.5 million, respectively. The position was the opposite of a strength, and new head coach Robert Saleh comes from a San Francisco 49ers defense that was absolutely loaded across the defensive line. The catalyst that propelled the 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2019 was No. 2 overall pick edge defender Nick Bosa. Just one month before selecting Bosa, the 49ers traded a second-round pick to the Kansas City Chiefs for edge defender Dee Ford and made him one of the highest-paid edge rushers in the NFL, inking a five-year, $85 million contract. The Jets signed Carl Lawson to a three-year, $45 million deal in free agency to dramatically improve their edge rush unit, and now they get the top edge rusher in the 2021 draft class to pair with him. Paye is a physical specimen with freakish change-of-direction skills, as evidenced by his now-infamous three-cone video: Paye had 22 pressures in 2020 on just 138 pass-rush snaps, and with some time for Saleh and company to hone his skills, he could be a disruptive force off the edge for years to come. From the Cardinals' perspective, they move down just seven spots in the first round and also recoup the third-round pick they traded to Las Vegas for center Rodney Hudson — and it’s the second pick in the entire third round, at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: Not a fan of this mock trade. https://www.pff.com/news/draft-five-2021-nfl-draft-trades-new-england-patriots-new-york-jets NEW YORK JETS MOVE FROM NO. 23 TO NO. 16 (ARIZONA CARDINALS) TO DRAFT MICHIGAN EDGE KWITY PAYE Full trade details: Jets receive: No. 16, No. 160 Cardinals receive: No. 23, No. 66 Comparison Trade: 2018 Tremaine Edmunds (Bills receive No. 16, No. 154 for No. 22, No. 65) The Jets' two starting edge rushers from 2020 signed contracts in free agency for two years, $6 million and two years, $5.5 million, respectively. The position was the opposite of a strength, and new head coach Robert Saleh comes from a San Francisco 49ers defense that was absolutely loaded across the defensive line. The catalyst that propelled the 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2019 was No. 2 overall pick edge defender Nick Bosa. Just one month before selecting Bosa, the 49ers traded a second-round pick to the Kansas City Chiefs for edge defender Dee Ford and made him one of the highest-paid edge rushers in the NFL, inking a five-year, $85 million contract. The Jets signed Carl Lawson to a three-year, $45 million deal in free agency to dramatically improve their edge rush unit, and now they get the top edge rusher in the 2021 draft class to pair with him. Paye is a physical specimen with freakish change-of-direction skills, as evidenced by his now-infamous three-cone video: Paye had 22 pressures in 2020 on just 138 pass-rush snaps, and with some time for Saleh and company to hone his skills, he could be a disruptive force off the edge for years to come. From the Cardinals' perspective, they move down just seven spots in the first round and also recoup the third-round pick they traded to Las Vegas for center Rodney Hudson — and it’s the second pick in the entire third round, at that. I don't mind the trade. I'm not sure I like the pick with it. If it's for Vera-Tucker or Waddle or someone like that who is clearly worth a top-15 pick then I'm good but there are almost a dozen edge rushers who seem roughly equivalent in value so moving up for one doesn't really sing to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/4/2021 at 7:28 AM, K_O_Brien said: Wow this guy was an actual GM. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Wow this guy was an actual GM. Emphasis on "was". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joewilly12 Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 Sam Darnold Trade Rumors: Jets 'Haven’t Aggressively Tried to Move' QB TYLER CONWAYAPRIL 5, 202157 Kathryn Riley/Getty Images The New York Jets reportedly "haven’t aggressively tried to move" quarterback Sam Darnold ahead of the 2021 NFL draft. Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated reported Jets general manager Joe Douglas has wanted to be patient in the process as he gathers information about Zach Wilson, Justin Fields and Trey Lance. However, Breer also noted that the Jets' patience has come in part because no team has been willing to meet their asking price. The Jets are widely expected to select Wilson with the second pick in this month's draft. Darnold has been one of the NFL's worst quarterbacks since being taken with the fifth overall pick in the 2018 draft. The USC product has failed to finish better than 30th in Football Outsiders' metrics in any of his first three seasons, and only Carson Wentz ranked worse in DYAR in 2020. Jets management bears some of the responsibility in Darnold's struggles, particularly with their coaching and roster choices. Adam Gase was perhaps the NFL's worst coach over the last two seasons before being fired after the 2020 campaign, and the Jets have not produced an offensive Pro Bowler during Darnold's career. Kimberley A. Martin of ESPN reported two general managers said they would be willing to give up a third-round pick to trade for Darnold. While that may be a fair price, some within the Jets building still likely view him as a prospect who can be saved with some competent management and coaching. Darnold doesn't turn 24 until June; he's a full seven months younger than Joe Burrow, last year's No. 1 overall pick. Even if Darnold improves elsewhere, his new team won't have much time to decide if he's a long-term option. The Jets or Darnold's next team will have to decide whether they will exercise his $18.9 million fifth-year option this offseason. It seems almost certain that they will decline, giving Darnold just a one-year window in his new city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Sam Darnold Trade Rumors: Jets 'Haven’t Aggressively Tried to Move' QB TYLER CONWAYAPRIL 5, 202157 Kathryn Riley/Getty Images The New York Jets reportedly "haven’t aggressively tried to move" quarterback Sam Darnold ahead of the 2021 NFL draft. Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated reported Jets general manager Joe Douglas has wanted to be patient in the process as he gathers information about Zach Wilson, Justin Fields and Trey Lance. However, Breer also noted that the Jets' patience has come in part because no team has been willing to meet their asking price. The Jets are widely expected to select Wilson with the second pick in this month's draft. Darnold has been one of the NFL's worst quarterbacks since being taken with the fifth overall pick in the 2018 draft. The USC product has failed to finish better than 30th in Football Outsiders' metrics in any of his first three seasons, and only Carson Wentz ranked worse in DYAR in 2020. Jets management bears some of the responsibility in Darnold's struggles, particularly with their coaching and roster choices. Adam Gase was perhaps the NFL's worst coach over the last two seasons before being fired after the 2020 campaign, and the Jets have not produced an offensive Pro Bowler during Darnold's career. Kimberley A. Martin of ESPN reported two general managers said they would be willing to give up a third-round pick to trade for Darnold. While that may be a fair price, some within the Jets building still likely view him as a prospect who can be saved with some competent management and coaching. Darnold doesn't turn 24 until June; he's a full seven months younger than Joe Burrow, last year's No. 1 overall pick. Even if Darnold improves elsewhere, his new team won't have much time to decide if he's a long-term option. The Jets or Darnold's next team will have to decide whether they will exercise his $18.9 million fifth-year option this offseason. It seems almost certain that they will decline, giving Darnold just a one-year window in his new city. Selected with the fifth pick in the 2018 draft? This dope do any research? Edited April 5, 2021 by 32EBoozer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 This is going to make some fans sick, but *apparently* the 49ers had genuine interest in trading for Darnold, but the Jets weren't ready to negotiate. Credit to Douglas for sticking to his process with conviction, but that stance is likely to come back to bite them in the rear compensation-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, football guy said: This is going to make some fans sick, but *apparently* the 49ers had genuine interest in trading for Darnold, but the Jets weren't ready to negotiate. Credit to Douglas for sticking to his process with conviction, but that stance is likely to come back to bite them in the rear compensation-wise. Are they ready to negotiate now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbucco19 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, football guy said: This is going to make some fans sick, but *apparently* the 49ers had genuine interest in trading for Darnold, but the Jets weren't ready to negotiate. Credit to Douglas for sticking to his process with conviction, but that stance is likely to come back to bite them in the rear compensation-wise. I respect they are waiting for the Medicals but if u fear the Medicals aren’t going to be a big issue then why wait lol This makes me sad , u r right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, football guy said: This is going to make some fans sick, but *apparently* the 49ers had genuine interest in trading for Darnold, but the Jets weren't ready to negotiate. Credit to Douglas for sticking to his process with conviction, but that stance is likely to come back to bite them in the rear compensation-wise. ...that sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, football guy said: This is going to make some fans sick, but *apparently* the 49ers had genuine interest in trading for Darnold, but the Jets weren't ready to negotiate. Credit to Douglas for sticking to his process with conviction, but that stance is likely to come back to bite them in the rear compensation-wise. Albert Breer has said over and over again including in today's MMQB that the Jets were willing to trade him earlier if the price was right. Albert Breer "I do think there’s a price point at which Douglas would’ve already moved Darnold (maybe a second-round pick, plus a player or lower-round pick), and obviously that price hasn’t been met." https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/04/05/mmqb-sean-payton-drew-brees-taysom-hill-jameis-winston-competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post K_O_Brien Posted April 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2021 With the cap saving on Darnold, can we sign that corner from the Steelers already? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adobolo2 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: With the cap saving on Darnold, can we sign that corner from the Steelers already? Would love that, take the pressure off needing a cornerback at 23 or 34. Sam only saves $4.8m this year though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joewilly12 Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 Predicting Landing Spots for Top 2021 NFL Free Agents Left on the Market MAURICE MOTONAPRIL 6, 202125 CB Steven Nelson: New York Jets Almost a week into free agency, the Pittsburgh Steelers cut Steven Nelson, who initially requested a trade, per ESPN's Adam Schefter. Coming off a solid year, he allowed a 58.2 percent completion rate while recording nine pass breakups and two interceptions in coverage. Two years ago, Nelson allowed a 50 percent completion rate, giving a new definition to the phrase 50-50 ball when targeted downfield. He doesn't have a Pro Bowl or All-Pro nod on his resume, but the 5'11", 194-pound cover man should land a starting job because of his performances on the boundary. Since ESPN's Rich Cimini doesn't see cornerback Richard Sherman as a likely match for the New York Jets, Nelson could gain traction as immediate help for a pass defense that ranked 28th in 2020. Cimini says the Jets need a starting cornerback and that general manager Joe Douglas will assess prospects in the draft. Nelson could fill that void. The Jets don't have any surefire starting cornerbacks who are consistent high-end playmakers. If they sign Nelson, Douglas can still look for a rookie to line up on the opposite side to address the position. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averagejetsfan1421 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I say sign Nelson to a 2 year 24m contract, would allow more flexibility in this years draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Looks like Mullens will go elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, choon328 said: Looks like Mullens will go elsewhere I honestly forgot all about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, choon328 said: Looks like Mullens will go elsewhere Sounds like teams will wait to sign him pending his rehab from elbow surgery The backup quarterback is currently rehabbing his throwing-arm elbow. Initial reports suggest Mullens will be cleared by training camp, however. Teams will likely wait until Mullens is closer to 100-percent health before signing him on as a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mrcoops Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, adobolo2 said: Just the type of veteran backup I was expecting - experienced, will have no expectation of being a starter, will come cheap. Don't love it, don't hate it. Hoyer can hold a clipboard as well as anyone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, mrcoops said: Just the type of veteran backup I was expecting - experienced, will have no expectation of being a starter, will come cheap. Don't love it, don't hate it. Hoyer can hold a clipboard as well as anyone. Plus can pass along a tremendous amount of experience as far as preparation goes to a young guy after being there with Brady so long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Peter Schragers first mock draft has the Jets taking Wilson at 2 and rondale Moore at 23. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 New York Jets Rondale Moore Purdue · WR Moore is a beast and a nightmare to tackle after the catch. He's neither a burner nor a huge physical specimen, but he fits everything the Jets are looking to be. Think Deebo Samuel, with his ability to carry the ball, catch the ball and generally be a DC's headache week in and week out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 49 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: Peter Schragers first mock draft has the Jets taking Wilson at 2 and rondale Moore at 23. From these breakdowns Rondale Moore sounds like a "Tyreek Hill type" with hopefully no off field issues: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/rondale-moore/32004d4f-4f67-2093-7b5b-808e901606a0 https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/purdue-wide-receiver-rondale-moore-pro-day-reaction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 The Jets’ “veteran back up” should be prepared to start more than a few games, particularly at the start of the season. The data is pretty compelling. Virtually every Super Bowl/MVP QB has had the chance to start observe and acclimate as a rookie, rather than start right away. I don’t know which way JD is going to go in the draft. I expect to be surprised. But last year we thought he could draft better OL help, and we were right. I hope I don’t the same thing this September. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Jets bring back Bennett Jackson. This guy just keeps trying...I hope be actually gets a chance to play some on D this year: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Jetlife33 said: New York Jets Rondale Moore Purdue · WR Moore is a beast and a nightmare to tackle after the catch. He's neither a burner nor a huge physical specimen, but he fits everything the Jets are looking to be. Think Deebo Samuel, with his ability to carry the ball, catch the ball and generally be a DC's headache week in and week out. #34 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Philc1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 1:54 PM, Jetlife33 said: Peter Schragers first mock draft has the Jets taking Wilson at 2 and rondale Moore at 23. Why waste 1 high draft pick when you can throw away two? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 23 hours ago, varjet said: The Jets’ “veteran back up” should be prepared to start more than a few games, particularly at the start of the season. The data is pretty compelling. Virtually every Super Bowl/MVP QB has had the chance to start observe and acclimate as a rookie, rather than start right away. I don’t know which way JD is going to go in the draft. I expect to be surprised. But last year we thought he could draft better OL help, and we were right. I hope I don’t the same thing this September. Brian Hoyer will make us all proud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post football guy Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 There will be a wave of FA signings after the draft, and I don't think the Jets are done adding veterans once that completes. Players that are probably fits for us: QB Brian Hoyer QB Alex Smith QB Nick Mullens RB Duke Johnson RB Jerick McKinnon WR Marquise Goodwin TE Trey Burton TE Richard Rodgers TE Jordan Reed DE Adrian Clayborn LB KJ Wright LB Kwon Alexander LB De'Vondre Campbell LB B.J. Goodson LB Alex Anzalone LB Patrick Owuasor CB Richard Sherman CB Brian Poole CB Steven Nelson CB Rasul Douglas CB Darqueze Dennard CB Cre'Von LeBlanc 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, football guy said: There will be a wave of FA signings after the draft, and I don't think the Jets are done adding veterans once that completes. Players that are probably fits for us: QB Brian Hoyer QB Alex Smith QB Nick Mullens RB Duke Johnson RB Jerick McKinnon WR Marquise Goodwin TE Trey Burton TE Richard Rodgers TE Jordan Reed DE Adrian Clayborn LB KJ Wright LB Kwon Alexander LB De'Vondre Campbell LB B.J. Goodson LB Alex Anzalone LB Patrick Owuasor CB Richard Sherman CB Brian Poole CB Steven Nelson CB Rasul Douglas CB Darqueze Dennard CB Cre'Von LeBlanc Realize this isn’t exactly a response but can you make sense of the linebacker depth chart for me? Obviously Davis will play, Mosley doesn’t seem like a fit, Cashman kind of does but is made of glass, I can’t imagine they’re relying on Phillips to start, and I’m not sure anybody else is a roster lock. I assume they’re not remotely done adding there, I’d think two more significant pieces and maybe a third for depth? Feel like it’ll be 1-2 draft picks and a FA? The other tricky thing is I know SF didn’t invest a ton - third round pick on Warner in 2018 I think and then a 2019 fifth round pick and UDFA. Can we expect similar? It seems odd to let a big hole hand to say three of the draft but off ball LB’s aren’t a super premium position. Could see trying to get the inside guy say two or using a third on someone who really fits outside but they need to help the QB more IMO. I really hope this is more a Saleh has an eye for what he wants at linebacker and can find day 3 gems situation more than a Ryan does a great job with the DL let’s use all our first round picks there. I guess the shorter follow up there is Guidry is the only nickel - is that a draft/Poole situation with Williams off the board or do they definitely need a vet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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