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22 minutes ago, football guy said:

This is going to make some fans sick, but *apparently* the 49ers had genuine interest in trading for Darnold, but the Jets weren't ready to negotiate. Credit to Douglas for sticking to his process with conviction, but that stance is likely to come back to bite them in the rear compensation-wise.

Albert Breer has said over and over again including in today's MMQB that the Jets were willing to trade him earlier if the price was right.

Albert Breer "I do think there’s a price point at which Douglas would’ve already moved Darnold (maybe a second-round pick, plus a player or lower-round pick), and obviously that price hasn’t been met."

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/04/05/mmqb-sean-payton-drew-brees-taysom-hill-jameis-winston-competition

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Stage I [Jets fail to spend $200 million in the first six hours of free agency; JN blows out its collective diaper]: COMPLETE Stage II [Jets sign a bunch of second- and third-tier FAs; JN begins

Joe Thuney and Corey Linsley is *not* a one or the other proposition for the Jets. If Thuney were to accept the Jets offer, they would still be interested in Linsley 👀 

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2 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

With the cap saving on Darnold, can we sign that corner from the Steelers already? 

Would love that, take the pressure off needing a cornerback at 23 or 34.

Sam only saves $4.8m this year though

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Predicting Landing Spots for Top 2021 NFL Free Agents Left on the Market

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CB Steven Nelson: New York Jets

 

 

Almost a week into free agency, the Pittsburgh Steelers cut Steven Nelson, who initially requested a trade, per ESPN's Adam Schefter. Coming off a solid year, he allowed a 58.2 percent completion rate while recording nine pass breakups and two interceptions in coverage.

Two years ago, Nelson allowed a 50 percent completion rate, giving a new definition to the phrase 50-50 ball when targeted downfield. He doesn't have a Pro Bowl or All-Pro nod on his resume, but the 5'11", 194-pound cover man should land a starting job because of his performances on the boundary.

Since ESPN's Rich Cimini doesn't see cornerback Richard Sherman as a likely match for the New York Jets, Nelson could gain traction as immediate help for a pass defense that ranked 28th in 2020.

Cimini says the Jets need a starting cornerback and that general manager Joe Douglas will assess prospects in the draft. Nelson could fill that void.

The Jets don't have any surefire starting cornerbacks who are consistent high-end playmakers. If they sign Nelson, Douglas can still look for a rookie to line up on the opposite side to address the position.

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5 minutes ago, choon328 said:

Looks like Mullens will go elsewhere

Sounds like teams will wait to sign him pending his rehab from elbow surgery

 

The backup quarterback is currently rehabbing his throwing-arm elbow. Initial reports suggest Mullens will be cleared by training camp, however. Teams will likely wait until Mullens is closer to 100-percent health before signing him on as a backup.

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8 minutes ago, adobolo2 said:

 

Just the type of veteran backup I was expecting - experienced, will have no expectation of being a starter, will come cheap.

Don't love it, don't hate it. Hoyer can hold a clipboard as well as anyone.

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19 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Just the type of veteran backup I was expecting - experienced, will have no expectation of being a starter, will come cheap.

Don't love it, don't hate it. Hoyer can hold a clipboard as well as anyone.

Plus can pass along a tremendous amount of experience as far as preparation goes to a young guy after being there with Brady so long.

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New York Jets

Rondale Moore

Purdue · WR

Moore is a beast and a nightmare to tackle after the catch. He's neither a burner nor a huge physical specimen, but he fits everything the Jets are looking to be. Think Deebo Samuel, with his ability to carry the ball, catch the ball and generally be a DC's headache week in and week out.

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49 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

Peter Schragers first mock draft has the Jets taking Wilson at 2 and rondale Moore at 23. 

From these breakdowns Rondale Moore sounds like a "Tyreek Hill type" with
hopefully no off field issues:
        
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/rondale-moore/32004d4f-4f67-2093-7b5b-808e901606a0

https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/purdue-wide-receiver-rondale-moore-pro-day-reaction

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The Jets’ “veteran back up” should be prepared to start more than a few games, particularly at the start of the season.  The data is pretty compelling.  Virtually every Super Bowl/MVP QB has had the chance to start observe and acclimate as a rookie, rather than start right away.

I don’t know which way JD is going to go in the draft.   I expect to be surprised.  But last year we thought he could draft better OL help, and we were right.  I hope I don’t the same thing this September.  

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8 hours ago, Jetlife33 said:

New York Jets

Rondale Moore

Purdue · WR

Moore is a beast and a nightmare to tackle after the catch. He's neither a burner nor a huge physical specimen, but he fits everything the Jets are looking to be. Think Deebo Samuel, with his ability to carry the ball, catch the ball and generally be a DC's headache week in and week out.

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On 4/8/2021 at 1:54 PM, Jetlife33 said:

Peter Schragers first mock draft has the Jets taking Wilson at 2 and rondale Moore at 23. 

Why waste 1 high draft pick when you can throw away two?

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23 hours ago, varjet said:

The Jets’ “veteran back up” should be prepared to start more than a few games, particularly at the start of the season.  The data is pretty compelling.  Virtually every Super Bowl/MVP QB has had the chance to start observe and acclimate as a rookie, rather than start right away.

I don’t know which way JD is going to go in the draft.   I expect to be surprised.  But last year we thought he could draft better OL help, and we were right.  I hope I don’t the same thing this September.  

Brian Hoyer will make us all proud

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25 minutes ago, football guy said:

There will be a wave of FA signings after the draft, and I don't think the Jets are done adding veterans once that completes.

Players that are probably fits for us: 

  • QB Brian Hoyer 
  • QB Alex Smith 
  • QB Nick Mullens  
  • RB Duke Johnson 
  • RB Jerick McKinnon
  • WR Marquise Goodwin
  • TE Trey Burton 
  • TE Richard Rodgers 
  • TE Jordan Reed
  • DE Adrian Clayborn 
  • LB KJ Wright 
  • LB Kwon Alexander
  • LB De'Vondre Campbell
  • LB B.J. Goodson
  • LB Alex Anzalone
  • LB Patrick Owuasor 
  • CB Richard Sherman 
  • CB Brian Poole 
  • CB Steven Nelson 
  • CB Rasul Douglas 
  • CB Darqueze Dennard 
  • CB Cre'Von LeBlanc

Realize this isn’t exactly a response but can you make sense of the linebacker depth chart for me?

Obviously Davis will play, Mosley doesn’t seem like a fit, Cashman kind of does but is made of glass, I can’t imagine they’re relying on Phillips to start, and I’m not sure anybody else is a roster lock.

I assume they’re not remotely done adding there, I’d think two more significant pieces and maybe a third for depth? Feel like it’ll be 1-2 draft picks and a FA?

The other tricky thing is I know SF didn’t invest a ton - third round pick on Warner in 2018 I think and then a 2019 fifth round pick and UDFA. Can we expect similar? It seems odd to let a big hole hand to say three of the draft but off ball LB’s aren’t a super premium position. Could see trying to get the inside guy say two or using a third on someone who really fits outside but they need to help the QB more IMO. 

I really hope this is more a Saleh has an eye for what he wants at linebacker and can find day 3 gems situation more than a Ryan does a great job with the DL let’s use all our first round picks there.

I guess the shorter follow up there is Guidry is the only nickel - is that a draft/Poole situation with Williams off the board or do they definitely need a vet?

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10 minutes ago, derp said:

Realize this isn’t exactly a response but can you make sense of the linebacker depth chart for me?

Obviously Davis will play, Mosley doesn’t seem like a fit, Cashman kind of does but is made of glass, I can’t imagine they’re relying on Phillips to start, and I’m not sure anybody else is a roster lock.

I assume they’re not remotely done adding there, I’d think two more significant pieces and maybe a third for depth? Feel like it’ll be 1-2 draft picks and a FA?

The other tricky thing is I know SF didn’t invest a ton - third round pick on Warner in 2018 I think and then a 2019 fifth round pick and UDFA. Can we expect similar? It seems odd to let a big hole hand to say three of the draft but off ball LB’s aren’t a super premium position. Could see trying to get the inside guy say two or using a third on someone who really fits outside but they need to help the QB more IMO. 

I really hope this is more a Saleh has an eye for what he wants at linebacker and can find day 3 gems situation more than a Ryan does a great job with the DL let’s use all our first round picks there.

I guess the shorter follow up there is Guidry is the only nickel - is that a draft/Poole situation with Williams off the board or do they definitely need a vet?

I think they'll try it out with Mosley in training camp and reevaluate from there. Maybe they move him prior to the season, maybe they trade him in-season, maybe they cut him after the season, or he returns to form and ends up a fit. I think it's unfair to say "he doesn't fit"... he can as a MLB. But we haven't seen him play in this style of defense in a full-time role (he has played this style of MLB for a percentage of his snaps) so it's "TBD". 

I think they view Davis as an interchangeable piece. Could be a MLB, could also be an OLB. He'll be a starter, and if he breaks out they'll look to sign him long-term. 

I don't think they're relying on Cashman. He's talented and will compete, but as you pointed out the injury stuff is damning for him. 

 

You mentioned the 49ers LBs and how they didn't make high draft investments. I think you're onto something. Will they take a guy early if they think he's special? Sure. Otherwise, I think they'll look more 3rd-5th rounds for guys to bring in, they'll sign a veteran, and they'll look into trading for someone. Then everything else will fall into place. But I think they feel the most important position - MLB - is at least settled for 2021 whether it be Mosley or Davis. 

 

As far as Guidry, I don't think they need a vet nickel. Saleh's scheme uses less slot cornerbacks anyway. I'm sure they'll add someone to compete but I don't think it's something they're losing sleep over. 

 

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It's going to be really interesting to see who Mosely 2.0 is.

The range is enormous - from pro bowl caliber leader of young and hungry bunch to LevBell redux.

I am optimistic.

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2021 NFL draft: Jets add surprise wide receiver in new NFL Network mock

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April 10, 2021 11:30 am

Peter Schrager is out with his first mock draft less than a month before the real thing.

The Good Morning Football host and NFL Network personality has the Jets going the expected route at No. 2, but they take the road less traveled with a surprise selection at No. 23.

Schrager pairs the Jets with BYU QB Zach Wilson to start things off, something that seems to be more than a foregone conclusion at this point.

Here’s his explanation for the selection:

In the end, I think Wilson will be the guy. His 2020 campaign numbers were eye-popping, but it’s his toughness and fearlessness over the course of his entire college career that really impresses folks around the league.

The Jets have already moved on from Sam Darnold and Joe Douglas didn’t deny Steve Young’s comments that New York has “committed” to Wilson and his family. Douglas didn’t have much of a rebuttal, adding that the legendary quarterback is “pretty tapped in” to the BYU football program.

The only box likely left to check is Wilson’s medicals, but the Jets aren’t concerned with Wilson’s shoulder injury history, according to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport.

As for New York’s second first-round pick, Schrager has them rolling the dice on Purdue wideout Rondale Moore.

Here’s his explanation for the pick:

Moore is a beast and a nightmare to tackle after the catch. He’s neither a burner nor a huge physical specimen, but he fits everything the Jets are looking to be. Think Deebo Samuel, with his ability to carry the ball, catch the ball and generally be a DC’s headache week in and week out.

While Moore is only 5-foot-7, his testing has been off the charts. Moore ran a 4.29 40-yard dash and had a 42.5-inch vertical at his pro day. The Purdue product has exceptional traits and is an explosive playmaker even though he’s an undersized slot receiver.

Where Moore may draw criticism beyond his size is his ability to stay on the field. He hasn’t played a full season in two years. He did, however, haul in 114 receptions for 1,258 yards with 12 touchdowns in 2018.

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On 4/5/2021 at 5:37 PM, K_O_Brien said:

With the cap saving on Darnold, can we sign that corner from the Steelers already? 

I'd like that.  It could free up the necessity of using a 1-3 rounds pick on a corner.  And instead use that draft slot for OL-RB-TE.  Then...if necessary...just get a more developmental corner in the later 5th-6 rounds.   

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On 4/8/2021 at 4:55 AM, Jetlife33 said:

New York Jets

Rondale Moore

Purdue · WR

Moore is a beast and a nightmare to tackle after the catch. He's neither a burner nor a huge physical specimen, but he fits everything the Jets are looking to be. Think Deebo Samuel, with his ability to carry the ball, catch the ball and generally be a DC's headache week in and week out.

5 7 180lbs

Deebo is 6 foot 220. Also no one really thinks deebo is this all impressive WR that is some crazy number 1 guy. He is hurt, cant get separation consistently etc..

TO be clear I think ROndale would be terrible pick. Absolutely terrible you dont take a 5 7 WR in the first second or 3rd rounds. Hell you dont draft a 5 7 WR at all. Maybe give him a shot as a UDFA. 

How can anyone think this is a good idea.

Football basics - WR should be big and tall you know bigger and taller that the CD covering them. Just saying. 

 

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1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

2021 NFL draft: Jets add surprise wide receiver in new NFL Network mock

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April 10, 2021 11:30 am

Peter Schrager is out with his first mock draft less than a month before the real thing.

The Good Morning Football host and NFL Network personality has the Jets going the expected route at No. 2, but they take the road less traveled with a surprise selection at No. 23.

Schrager pairs the Jets with BYU QB Zach Wilson to start things off, something that seems to be more than a foregone conclusion at this point.

Here’s his explanation for the selection:

In the end, I think Wilson will be the guy. His 2020 campaign numbers were eye-popping, but it’s his toughness and fearlessness over the course of his entire college career that really impresses folks around the league.

The Jets have already moved on from Sam Darnold and Joe Douglas didn’t deny Steve Young’s comments that New York has “committed” to Wilson and his family. Douglas didn’t have much of a rebuttal, adding that the legendary quarterback is “pretty tapped in” to the BYU football program.

The only box likely left to check is Wilson’s medicals, but the Jets aren’t concerned with Wilson’s shoulder injury history, according to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport.

As for New York’s second first-round pick, Schrager has them rolling the dice on Purdue wideout Rondale Moore.

Here’s his explanation for the pick:

Moore is a beast and a nightmare to tackle after the catch. He’s neither a burner nor a huge physical specimen, but he fits everything the Jets are looking to be. Think Deebo Samuel, with his ability to carry the ball, catch the ball and generally be a DC’s headache week in and week out.

While Moore is only 5-foot-7, his testing has been off the charts. Moore ran a 4.29 40-yard dash and had a 42.5-inch vertical at his pro day. The Purdue product has exceptional traits and is an explosive playmaker even though he’s an undersized slot receiver.

Where Moore may draw criticism beyond his size is his ability to stay on the field. He hasn’t played a full season in two years. He did, however, haul in 114 receptions for 1,258 yards with 12 touchdowns in 2018.

@Joewillie12 I didn't see you post this I made a thread about how terrible this pick would be, what do you think about it? Would you be for taking a small WR with our premium pick over actually good WR's for an NFL offense?

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Just now, BornJetsFan1983 said:

@Joewillie12 I didn't see you post this I made a thread about how terrible this pick would be, what do you think about it? Would you be for taking a small WR with our premium pick over actually good WR's for an NFL offense?

Im @joewilly12  and I copied and pasted off of Bleacher Report I didn't say I supported this move. 

I didn't see your thread. 

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2 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

5 7 180lbs

Deebo is 6 foot 220. Also no one really thinks deebo is this all impressive WR that is some crazy number 1 guy. He is hurt, cant get separation consistently etc..

TO be clear I think ROndale would be terrible pick. Absolutely terrible you dont take a 5 7 WR in the first second or 3rd rounds. Hell you dont draft a 5 7 WR at all. Maybe give him a shot as a UDFA. 

How can anyone think this is a good idea.

Football basics - WR should be big and tall you know bigger and taller that the CD covering them. Just saying. 

 

He's not just small in height.  But very small arms...28.25".  Smallish hands for a receiver too at 8.75".  With a multiple injury history.  None of this translates to a 1st round pick. 

I think these pundits just like to troll the Jets and us fans.

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1 hour ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

5 7 180lbs

How can anyone think this is a good idea.

Football basics - WR should be big and tall you know bigger and taller that the CD covering them. Just saying. 

 

That’s just because you just don’t know what you’re talking about. I mean that in a literal, not adversarial way. A playmaker is a playmaker... bet on talent. You have to assess each player individually/independently. Chasing outliers is as bad as ignoring them. He’s the WR version of MJD.

 

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3 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

5 7 180lbs

Deebo is 6 foot 220. Also no one really thinks deebo is this all impressive WR that is some crazy number 1 guy. He is hurt, cant get separation consistently etc..

TO be clear I think ROndale would be terrible pick. Absolutely terrible you dont take a 5 7 WR in the first second or 3rd rounds. Hell you dont draft a 5 7 WR at all. Maybe give him a shot as a UDFA. 

How can anyone think this is a good idea.

Football basics - WR should be big and tall you know bigger and taller that the CD covering them. Just saying. 

 

I agree terrible in the first. I'm think they'll be more impactful players at 23 and 34. After that, I'd be ok with him in the third.

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2 hours ago, Paradis said:

That’s just because you just don’t know what you’re talking about. I mean that in a literal, not adversarial way. A playmaker is a playmaker... bet on talent. You have to assess each player individually/independently. Chasing outliers is as bad as ignoring them. He’s the WR version of MJD.

 

Maurice jones drew would also have been a bad WR pick at #23 overall.  What kind of a route tree is this guy going to run?  Weapon?  Oh sure, he will be but can he do it all in the NFL?  I doubt it.

It's funny that you 100% hate Kadarius Toney and call him a gadget player and yet you love this guy.

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