2021 NY JETS/NFL FREE AGENCY DRAFT TRADES RUMORS HAPPENINGS ***

[RVAJet815]

 

Ok. Same dude also said:

I wouldn't knock them for taking either prospect in the crapshoot that is Round 1, but Wilson's ceiling is higher. He has a far better arm than Fields and does a lot that resembles Patrick Mahomes and Kyler Murray's games.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2932648-2021-nfl-mock-draft-updated-picks-entering-combine-pro-days

It’s a calculated risk that is not that cut and dried. If Saleh and LaFleur got to pick their guy and this is who they want, then that is that.

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, nycdan said:

I would think that is a trade the teams have set up if a certain player falls and perhaps, the Chargers screwed up and posted it as a 'done deal'.  It feels weird to make that trade before the draft starts.

Mean to press "save as draft", actually pressed "send".

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, RVAJet815 said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2932648-2021-nfl-mock-draft-updated-picks-entering-combine-pro-days

It’s a calculated risk that is not that cut and dried.

 BRAD GAGNON  Dated FEBRUARY 22, 2021

[RVAJet815]

Just now, joewilly12 said:

 BRAD GAGNON  Dated FEBRUARY 22, 2021

And? Is it not the same guy? Did something happen between then and now that I missed? 

[joewilly12]

Just now, RVAJet815 said:

And? Is it not the same guy? Did something happen between then and now that I missed? 

Yes Pro Days for all QB's have taken place and there have been trades in the 1st round. 

[RVAJet815]

Just now, joewilly12 said:

Yes Pro Days for all QB's have taken place and there have been trades in the 1st round. 

Meaningless. Pro days are choreographed dog and pony shows. And the trades are happening behind us. Unless the jags are off TL, it doesn’t matter. 

[Jetsbb]

15 minutes ago, section314 said:

I actually believe this.

 

14 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

So do I and the 49ers moved up to get Wilson. 

EEK! You think Schefter texted Zach that he is going to the Jets officially because he was guessing? Someone in the organization told him that. Saleh didn't even bother going to Fields 2nd pro day after missing the first one. The 49ers aren't organizing these 2nd pro days flying around the country for their health thinking they will take Wilson. Douglas said there was a clear 2 QB's with all the rest not worth trading Darnold for. He had a great offer for Darnold but held up because he was worried about a physical. Hmm I wonder if that was for Zachs shoulder. Report today 49ers pick down to Lance and Mac Jones. Mcshay and Daniel Jeremiah are very good friends with Douglas, he offered them jobs here. Both very assertive that Zach is the clear 2nd QB with a huge gap to the next one. You need any more evidence to convince you?

[joewilly12]

2 minutes ago, RVAJet815 said:

Meaningless. Pro days are choreographed dog and pony shows. And the trades are happening behind us. Unless the jags are off TL, it doesn’t matter. 

So not true especially after the NCAA season we just had. 

[section314]

The reason that I believe that Wilson is not the slam dunk pick is that it flies in the face of everything the Jets have done since JD has been here. The organization is tighter than a clams ass as far as information being leaked, and yet for the last 3 weeks they are flying planes around with signs on them telling the world who we are picking? Doesn't add up,and I smell a rat.

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, Jetsbb said:

 

EEK! You think Schefter texted Zach that he is going to the Jets officially because he was guessing? Someone in the organization told him that. Saleh didn't even bother going to Fields 2nd pro day after missing the first one. The 49ers aren't organizing these 2nd pro days flying around the country for their health thinking they will take Wilson. Douglas said there was a clear 2 QB's with all the rest not worth trading Darnold for. He had a great offer for Darnold but held up because he was worried about a physical. Hmm I wonder of that was for Zachs shoulder. Report today 49ers pick down to Lance and Mac Jones. Mcshay and Daniel Jeremiah are very good friends with Douglas, he offered them jobs here. Both very assertive that Zach is the clear 2nd QB with a huge gap to the next one. You need any more evidence to convince you?

Schefter hasn't been all that accurate as of late. 

Wilson or Fields both better than Sam Darnold either works for me. 

[section314]

3 minutes ago, Jetsbb said:

 

EEK! You think Schefter texted Zach that he is going to the Jets officially because he was guessing? Someone in the organization told him that. Saleh didn't even bother going to Fields 2nd pro day after missing the first one. The 49ers aren't organizing these 2nd pro days flying around the country for their health thinking they will take Wilson. Douglas said there was a clear 2 QB's with all the rest not worth trading Darnold for. He had a great offer for Darnold but held up because he was worried about a physical. Hmm I wonder if that was for Zachs shoulder. Report today 49ers pick down to Lance and Mac Jones. Mcshay and Daniel Jeremiah are very good friends with Douglas, he offered them jobs here. Both very assertive that Zach is the clear 2nd QB with a huge gap to the next one. You need any more evidence to convince you?

Who better to feed the chum to the sharks?

[T0mShane]

21 minutes ago, RVAJet815 said:

Ok. Same dude also said:



https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2932648-2021-nfl-mock-draft-updated-picks-entering-combine-pro-days

It’s a calculated risk that is not that cut and dried. If Saleh and LaFleur got to pick their guy and this is who they want, then that is that.

Horrid article. That guy sucks.

[flgreen]

49 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

Because if the guy (Fields) he passes on, who just 4 months ago was a lock to the Jets with the 2nd overall pick after he outplayed TL, goes on to be successful on the Patriots (of all teams) while his one year wonder quarterback (Wilson)  flames out of the league, then Joe Douglas' seat is gonna be ? hot with the Jets. 

 

And if Fields busts out?

Doulglas is the GM of the Jets.  If he thinks Wilson is a much better QB then Fields, I'm going with Douglas over internet fears.   If he's worrying about what Lil Bill is doing the Jets need another GM.

I don't think he cares, nor should he.

[playtowinthegame]

2 minutes ago, flgreen said:

And if Fields busts out?

Doulglas is the GM of the Jets.  If he thinks Wilson is a much better QB then Fields, I'm going with Douglas over internet fears.   If he's worrying about what Lil Bill is doing the Jets need another GM.

I don't think he cares, nor should he.

It's more likely Zach Wilson will bust than Justin Fields. Especially if the Jets are drafting Wilson, who are a challenging situation for any young quarterback, let alone a one year wonder out of BYU with multiple surgeries on his shoulders.

[Beerfish]

7 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

It's more likely Zach Wilson will bust than Justin Fields. Especially if the Jets are drafting Wilson, who are a challenging situation for any young quarterback, let alone a one year wonder out of BYU with multiple surgeries on his shoulders.

So wilson will bust on the sorry no talent jets but fields won;t?

In the end with many QB's their success will be very much tied to how the GM builds around them.  Douglas has to hope a few more of his picks from last year take it up a notch, that his non QB picks do well this year and that he nails it next year.

What Joe Douglas does with picks 23 and 34 will tell me almost every thing I need to know about him going forward.

[Icer]

Trust JD, if he is convinced Wilson is the guy then so be it. The teams hopes are riding on JD picking the right guys in more than just this singular moment 

I like Wilson & Fields, but they both have question marks. It's easy to ignore Fields issues because they haven't been dissected over and over like Wilson's on here for the past two months

[playtowinthegame]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

So wilson will bust on the sorry no talent jets but fields won;t?

I like my chances much better with Fields as my quarterback. I'm much more confident he's built for the abuse that comes with playing quarterback at the NFL level. 

[flgreen]

14 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

It's more likely Zach Wilson will bust than Justin Fields. Especially if the Jets are drafting Wilson, who are a challenging situation for any young quarterback, let alone a one year wonder out of BYU with multiple surgeries on his shoulders.

Well in your mind it's Wilson who is more likely to bust.  In my mind Fields is more likely to bust, and that's fine. 

We'll find out who Joe thinks is more likely to bust on Thursday.  

 

[Warfish]

26 minutes ago, flgreen said:

Doulglas is the GM of the Jets.  If he thinks Wilson is a much better QB then Fields, I'm going with Douglas

i.e. "I think whatever our current GM does is the best decision!" 

 

 

 

[Tranquilo]

6 minutes ago, Warfish said:

i.e. "I think whatever our current GM does is the best decision!" 

 

 

 

Tbh it's a better thought than "I think what JoeSchmo941 on JetsNation says about QBs is gospel!"

[Tranquilo]

13 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

I like my chances much better with Fields as my quarterback. I'm much more confident he's built for the abuse that comes with playing quarterback at the NFL level. 

In the past 5-10 years, what QBs flamed out due to injuries and abuse of playing QB at the NFL level?

[Warfish]

3 minutes ago, Tranquilo said:

Tbh it's a better thought than "I think what JoeSchmo941 on JetsNation says about QBs is gospel!"

Tell that to Macc, Idzik, Tanny and Bradway. 

I have no doubt a few of our "JoeSchmo"'s here at JN could have done better than THAT rogues gallery.

But hey, no stress, "I like whatever the GM does" is certainly the easy, lazy way to be a fan.  It literally requires no thought of any kind.  

You be you, I like thinking for myself.

[Tranquilo]

Just now, Warfish said:

Tell that to Macc, Idzik, Tanny and Bradway. 

I have no doubt a few of our "JoeSchmo"'s here at JN could have done better than THAT rogues gallery.

But hey, no stress, "I like whatever the GM does' is certainly the easy, lazy way to be a fan.  It literally requires no thought of any kind.  

You be you, I like thinking for myself.

Tanny and Bradway had some success. I'm not saying blindly follow everything Joe Douglas does, but there's nothing in his process or past history that suggests he's making a rushed and uninformed decision. So I'll trust him until he proves otherwise.

[BoogSportsGuy]

15 minutes ago, Tranquilo said:

In the past 5-10 years, what QBs flamed out due to injuries and abuse of playing QB at the NFL level?

Jake Locker? Besides that can maybe throw Bradford in that bucket 

[Tranquilo]

1 minute ago, BoogSportsGuy said:

Jake Locker? Besides that can maybe throw Bradford in that bucket 

Good calls. And both dudes were solid 6'3 to 6'4 guys over 220. 

[Warfish]

11 minutes ago, Tranquilo said:

I'm not saying blindly follow everything Joe Douglas does, but there's nothing in his process or past history that suggests he's making a rushed and uninformed decision.

You know people can make a patient, informed decision, and still make the wrong decision, right?

11 minutes ago, Tranquilo said:

So I'll trust him until he proves otherwise.

Fair enough, but there is a more than fair argument that he's already started to prove otherwise with his draft picks and free agent choices to-date. He's been great at trading away players for picks, unquestionably, but his resume to-date on player selection, obvious Becton pick being obvious aside, hasn't been terribly good. 

Of course, if his 2020 draft picks picks start producing in 2021, and his 2021 picks have some impact in 2021, and his shiny new 2021 free agent edge and WR produce like #1's at their respective spots, that will certainly change some perceptions of him. 

It's all in his hands right now.

[Tranquilo]

Just now, Warfish said:

You know people can make a patient, informed decision, and still make the wrong decision, right?

Come on man, I know. But we can't predict the future, so we gotta look at the process.

I agree with the rest of your post.

[T0mShane]

Really enjoying the anti-Zach momentum in the Jets fan universe today. Really feels like we’re on the cusp of finally burning it all down. Gase’s vision will be complete.

[Biggs]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Really enjoying the anti-Zach momentum in the Jets fan universe today. Really feels like we’re on the cusp of finally burning it all down. Gase’s vision will be complete.

It's very Jetsy.  

[jetblue95]

37 minutes ago, Warfish said:

 

You be you, I like thinking for myself.

 

who do you think the jets should take at #2?

how do you rank the QBs in this draft class?

you're a bright guy who is certainly capable of thinking for himself.  would you like to share how you see this draft and this QB class stack up?

[Philc1]

1 hour ago, playtowinthegame said:

It's more likely Zach Wilson will bust than Justin Fields. Especially if the Jets are drafting Wilson, who are a challenging situation for any young quarterback, let alone a one year wonder out of BYU with multiple surgeries on his shoulders.

Both of them are going to suck

[joewilly12]

20 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Really enjoying the anti-Zach momentum in the Jets fan universe today. Really feels like we’re on the cusp of finally burning it all down. Gase’s vision will be complete.

[joewilly12]

19 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Really enjoying the anti-Zach momentum in the Jets fan universe today. Really feels like we’re on the cusp of finally burning it all down. Gase’s vision will be complete.

[flgreen]

53 minutes ago, Warfish said:

i.e. "I think whatever our current GM does is the best decision!" 

 

 

 

LOL

I know, you know much more about these college players, and the draft then any of the GM's.  I'm not insane so I know I don't

And no, I don't always think a GM makes the right decision.  I thought Darnold was the 3rd QB in that class.  Thought Geno was an out right punk, and a bust, thought Sanchize was way over hyped.

But I'm not an idiot, I know these guys have MUCH more resources available to them, and Football is truly their life work.  For me it's a hobby.  So yes, in the end I will accept what a much more informed man thinks of a situation.  Or move on to another team, or sport. 

[long time suffering Jets f]

WFAN’s Maggie Gray thinks that JD will be very aggressive on draft night. She said to look for a trade up scenario where the Jets moves back into the 1st round which would give them three 1st rounders overall. I’d be all in on that.