Icer Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Still waiting for those Trevor should dodge the Jags takes, and these FA moves arent helping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: Overpay for a WR#2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: What about Peter LaFleur? Or this guy... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: Overpay for a WR#2 Number 1 WRs are gonna make 16 mill+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Jet Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Butterfield said: I disagree. Yuck, I don’t really like those guys in the draft either. Of course you don't like a consensus top-5 OL rookie and a consensus top-2 center rookie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, British Jet said: Of course you don't like a consensus top-5 IOL rookie and a consensus top-2 center rookie. Yes, because those consensus rankings are always correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: Overpay for a WR#2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: I’m pretty sure we have about 50 million available, draft class is what 12 million? Knocks it down to 38? Somewhere in that range. Basic breakdown I'm looking at: 51.8 million after Maye, Davis1 and Davis2 according to overthecap. 15 million Lawson 12.5 million rookies = 24.3 million 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Butterfield said: Yes, because those consensus rankings are always correct. So why don't you like them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Badom Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Butterfield said: Yes, because those consensus rankings are always correct. Don't forget you have a job... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bungaman said: For the folks complaining that we didn't even sniff around Linsley, consider that our new OC Lafleur was around him in GB, and saw him up close over time. Perhaps he had some input as to whether Linsley was a guy worth burning a lot of money on, and the conclusion reached was that he was not. wrong lafleur, but perhaps he has talked with his brother (the GB HC) and had some insight into the type of player he is, which impacted the valuation the jets set on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Butterfield said: Well, its not just past stats. Its projection of future production. Besides that, Bourne got 7 mil/year (which is really pushing what I would pay) and Davis who got 12.5/year. Of course Bourne only got $7 million a year. Ideally, he’s the #4 receiver on your depth chart. He’s quality depth. You don’t want him starting on the outside or as your primary slot. He’s depth. Corey Davis is a legitimate starting outside receiver. Not a #1 but certainly a quality #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Philc1 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: Overpay for a WR#2 Which we didn’t have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Jetlife33 said: We also need a new beat writer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Davis is a solid number 2 wr. Not a bad signing but I would have preferred golloday because I think hes a legit #1. he would cost more but would have been worth it IMO Golloday as the 1 with Mims as the 2 would have been exciting. looks like JD views Mims as the 1 with Davis as the 2. Davis is just not a #1 WR IMO. And I Still think jets need to draft a wr early As far as lawson goes seems like a bit of an overpay to me. Yannick signed for less and was definitely more productive. Seems like he's paying for potential and not production. Let's see where jd goes from here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: Overpay for a WR#2 "Supplemental" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Which we didn’t have Dont have a competent G or C either . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, section314 said: Creed Humprhey, Landon Dickerson and Josh Meyers will all start from day #1. And what will they have to offer a rookie QB as far as recognizing NFL defenses? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Greenseed4 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: I saw them getting praised for “admitting, and quickly fixing their mistake.” Thought that was a cute spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: Manhertz? Sounds like a huge injury risk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mogglez said: So you would have signed a WR who graded out worse than Davis, a WR who is still on the market, a pass rusher who graded out worse than Lawson, with only one good contract year under his belt while playing opposite Cameron Jordan, a TE who is still available, a guy who never hit FA, and a LB who is still available, while completely ignoring that we still have an expensive CJ Mosley. Alllllllrighty then. Yeah, I’m gonna have to vehemently disagree with you. Can go on and on but citing grades, I’m assuming PFF, is silly. PFF had Jamal as a good pass defender for the Jets in his last season here. I’ll admit, I known nothing about Lawson. Looking at his stats I’m not overly impressed and then watching a tape of his pass rushes, it doesn’t jump out to me, regardless of “pressure numbers” or “qb hits”. As for Davis, I’m just not a fan. If you’re gonna downplay Hendrickson for playing across from Jordan, then I can downplay him for playing with Smith, Henry and Brown. He didn’t have a good year until last year. Point being, no one knows how these guys will be. I’m remaining pessimistic until I see improvements on the field next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, JetPotato said: And what will they have to offer a rookie QB as far as recognizing NFL defenses? Good offensive lineman learn quick. I wouldn't worry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Davis is a solid number 2 wr. Not a bad signing but I would have preferred golloday because I think hes a legit #1. he would cost more but would have been worth it IMO Golloday as the 1 with Mims as the 2 would have been exciting. looks like JD views Mims as the 1 with Davis as the 2. Davis is just not a #1 WR IMO. And I Still think jets need to draft a wr early As far as lawson goes seems like a bit of an overpay to me. Yannick signed for less and was definitely more productive. Seems like he's paying for potential and not production. Let's see where jd goes from here. Fair points. But last year we had Crowder and (for most of the season) nobody. A smattering of Perriman and Mims and a healthy dose of Berrios. Now we have, Mims, Davis and Crowder, assuming health is good. That's already a substantial improvement even if nothing changes, which it almost certainly will. I'm all for drafting a WR early if the value is there, but our needs at OG and CB right now might nudge us that way if value is close. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, heymangold said: Can go on and on but citing grades, I’m assuming PFF, is silly. PFF had Jamal as a good pass defender for the Jets in his last season here. I’ll admit, I known nothing about Lawson. Looking at his stats I’m not overly impressed and then watching a tape of his pass rushes, it doesn’t jump out to me, regardless of “pressure numbers” or “qb hits”. As for Davis, I’m just not a fan. If you’re gonna downplay Hendrickson for playing across from Jordan, then I can downplay him for playing with Smith, Henry and Brown. He didn’t have a good year until last year. Point being, no one knows how these guys will be. I’m remaining pessimistic until I see improvements on the field next year. Nothing to do with PFF. I have made it known how much I hate that website. I’m talking more about advanced stats and things of that nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: I'm willing to bet the Houston Texans didn't even give a second of consideration to Jihad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: Dammit...now BB is going after another fins record...lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Nothing to do with PFF. I have made it known how much I hate that website. I’m talking more about advanced stats and things of that nature. Carl Lawson put up 8 sacks in 2017 and 5.5 last year btw. He consistently grades out well in pressures and QB hits, along with other promising pass rushing advanced stats. He is not a one year wonder. Corey Davis played well when he had a QB who could throw the ball under center. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Davis is a solid number 2 wr. Not a bad signing but I would have preferred golloday because I think hes a legit #1. he would cost more but would have been worth it IMO Golloday as the 1 with Mims as the 2 would have been exciting. looks like JD views Mims as the 1 with Davis as the 2. Davis is just not a #1 WR IMO. And I Still think jets need to draft a wr early As far as lawson goes seems like a bit of an overpay to me. Yannick signed for less and was definitely more productive. Seems like he's paying for potential and not production. Let's see where jd goes from here. Was Yannick more productive though? I don't know the stats, but I'm guessing you're saying he had more sacks. Meanwhile Lawson had like 32 QB hits. Flying off the edge. That sort of production next to Q getting pressure inside is something I'm really looking forward to seeing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, JetPotato said: And what will they have to offer a rookie QB as far as recognizing NFL defenses? I agree. It is one of the reasons Linsley was so attractive. Not only is he one of the best but he has experience in a very similar system. That is a huge help when you are relying on other young offensive linemen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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