Rhg1084 5,125 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 here’s tomorrows back page along with the article in the tweet below. Seems like Costello has taken over for Manish as the biggest dumbass on the beat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard King 3,351 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Hit piece? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post dbatesman 48,533 Posted January 28 Popular Post Share Posted January 28 Costello is indeed a dumbass, but I’m not sure what’s wrong with any of this 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhg1084 5,125 Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, Lizard King said: Hit piece? What’s confusing you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhg1084 5,125 Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Costello is indeed a dumbass, but I’m not sure what’s wrong with any of this This article was way out of line to even question Douglas. The guy was given the worst situation in the league and has done a great job 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lupz27 12,543 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Media gonna media 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dbatesman 48,533 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 7 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: This article was way out of line to even question Douglas. The guy was given the worst situation in the league and has done a great job I would argue that the best thing you can say about Douglas is that we don’t yet know how good a job he’s done, but YMMV I guess Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard King 3,351 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard King 3,351 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 15 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: What’s confusing you 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jets Voice of Reason 22,931 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: I would argue that the best thing you can say about Douglas is that we don’t yet know how good a job he’s done, but YMMV I guess There is a lot of value in not being an abject moron, so he’s got that going for him at least. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ID. 347 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 This is kinda scary: ”One curious decision Douglas has made is not changing the scouting staff. He largely has the same scouts who worked under Maccagnan when the Jets drafted terribly. Douglas has hired one scout.” 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard King 3,351 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, ID. said: This is kinda scary: ”One curious decision Douglas has made is not changing the scouting staff. He largely has the same scouts who worked under Maccagnan when the Jets drafted terribly. Douglas has hired one scout.” Neither did billy beane Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prodigal Syndicate 788 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Douglas is a complete question mark at this point and doesnt deserve blind faith. He has made plenty of mistakes, hes been here since 2019 and we are no closer to being a good team as of right now. Nothing wrong with the article. We will see what happens in the next few months and how the draft goes. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Charlie Brown 9,710 Posted January 28 Popular Post Share Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, ID. said: This is kinda scary: ”One curious decision Douglas has made is not changing the scouting staff. He largely has the same scouts who worked under Maccagnan when the Jets drafted terribly. Douglas has hired one scout.” No JD felt that there was nothing wrong with the scouts but he did totally revamp what scouts were looking at and how prospects were graded.... nothing scary about it.. Here is the article: https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-joe-douglas-draft-scouts-evaluating-roster-grading-20200407-lo6l56dqjnesndljbhvs6wlani-story.html 6 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post #27TheDominator 211,188 Posted January 28 Popular Post Share Posted January 28 Yes, another 100% factually accurate hit piece. 3 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beerfish 35,080 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Some good some bad so far. The day after the draft I'll hail him as a hero or condemn him mas a zero. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greenbloodblitz 3,208 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said: No JD felt that there was nothing wrong with the scouts but he did totally revamp what scouts were looking at and how prospects were graded.... nothing scary about it.. Here is the article: https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-joe-douglas-draft-scouts-evaluating-roster-grading-20200407-lo6l56dqjnesndljbhvs6wlani-story.html From the time Gase and Douglas got here they've completely flipped everything in the front office. So much turnover it's ridiculous and it's definitely going to take time to come to fruition. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BornJetsFan1983 6,530 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said: No JD felt that there was nothing wrong with the scouts but he did totally revamp what scouts were looking at and how prospects were graded.... nothing scary about it.. Here is the article: https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-joe-douglas-draft-scouts-evaluating-roster-grading-20200407-lo6l56dqjnesndljbhvs6wlani-story.html Yeah and he also knows how to translate what they report into who he should draft, nothing wrong with reports before, scouts gave what they were asked for. Our previous gms picked the wrong players but I imagine the reports were exactly what they asked for. As stated the reports changed tongive actual relevant data and the GM now knows what to pick. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BornJetsFan1983 6,530 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Greenbloodblitz said: From the time Gase and Douglas got here they've completely flipped everything in the front office. So much turnover it's ridiculous and it's definitely going to take time to come to fruition. I bet alot comes sooner than you think like this off season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post GREENBEAN 13,237 Posted January 28 Popular Post Share Posted January 28 This is kinda scary: ”One curious decision Douglas has made is not changing the scouting staff. He largely has the same scouts who worked under Maccagnan when the Jets drafted terribly. Douglas has hired one scout.”Scouts are scouts in large part. He changed the entire upper management team. That’s what’s most important. Scouts are basically told what to do and where. They gather info to hand over to the bosses. JD has 3 men around him that are totally different than before he got here. I wouldn’t worry. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irish Jet 237,375 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Douglas has largely been terrible. He’s made a few good moves but it’s been mostly a disaster. He overseen the worst Jets team I have ever seen. The idea that we should have blind faith in him because he worked for Baltimore is f*cking asinine. This off-season will make or break him. 3 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doitny 405 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 14 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Douglas has largely been terrible. He’s made a few good moves but it’s been mostly a disaster. He overseen the worst Jets team I have ever seen. The idea that we should have blind faith in him because he worked for Baltimore is f*cking asinine. This off-season will make or break him. that what i said about Watson coming here. oh we have all that FA money......yeah well JD has to hit on some, and his track record isnt so good so far but what about all those picks we have.....70% of draft picks are Busts. JD has to hit on them too. no guarantee he will. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irish Jet 237,375 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: This article was way out of line to even question Douglas. Literal cult sh*t. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyJoe67 38 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I think most of the moves Joe D has made were just band aids until he could shed the crappy contracts ... my only bitch with him has been letting Robbie walk. I don't think he's proven himself yet by any stretch but I feel pretty good about having him at the helm of the ship . 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DetroitRed 1,675 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Nothing wrong with the piece. Douglas had a very solid draft. I’d estimate that at a minimum, 6 of the players he drafted will make the roster next season. That’s how we will build a team. Everyone has misses, but he certainly has a clue. And I applaud that he was calculated in FA last offseason 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redlichtie 1,351 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: This article was way out of line to even question Douglas. The guy was given the worst situation in the league and has done a great job LOL....not sure if this is sarcasm, he took a 7-9 team and DECIMATED it!!......turning it INTO the worst in the league....Adam Gase, as crap as he was, has a legit reason to feel aggrieved that the rug was pulled from under him....Douglas has serious questions to answer and major blemishes on the report card already. all that said he’s a young first time GM, he tried something and it spectacularly failed, but give him time, let him learn from the early disasters and hope....hope....he has what it takes to be better. He’s shown he can manoeuvre the draft and maximise draft capital, he’s shown that he can get back a fair return on a player(Adams) which should be the springboard to adding talent, he didn’t allow himself to be fleeced and made the best of a poor situation(a situation he was at least 50% responsible for but at least he came out of it with future resources). Those draft picks are only any good though, if we hit on them. There have been a couple of successes for sure but the wider body of work is currently a massive question mark, his first draft remains sketchy but there’s promise there and no draft should be dismissed or hailed based off year 1(a very difficult and unusual year 1 at that). More significantly, while we have no idea if Robert Saleh is the guy to lead us back to the playoffs, I think almost the entire fanbase is united behind the hire and energised by our new coach and staff(not hard mind you, after what we endured under the last two coaches)....the entire Jets fanbase united behind something, however fleetingly that lasts for, is pretty unusual and worthy of credit!!....we got the guy that it’s not stretching it to say, was considered the No 1 coaching prospect across the board and the most ready to be a HC. It’s accepted that Joe Douglas was leading that search, and while Chris Johnson deserves credit too, not least for stepping back and letting Douglas take the process on and bask in the immediate glow, there’s no question that Douglas is tied to Saleh, for good or bad(at the moment it’s all good, I’m sure it will change about 30 seconds into our first pre-season game). Anyway, that’s the good, but that’s it....none of that is a guarantee, it’s all potential right now. the idea he’s doing a great job and is beyond criticism has to be a massive joke that has gone completely over my head, so I’ll assume that post was not serious in any way. He’s by no means a catastrophe....yet.....but there’s plenty of reason to be critical, and to doubt, at this point. 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Harper 4,083 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I like Douglas but I don’t think it was unfair. I think he deserves more credit for the Adams trade when you consider that Adams was doing everything he could to decrease his market value. Also it didn’t mention his trading down on draft day, which was adept. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
32EBoozer 6,823 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I’m glad Saleh: 1. Has already signed his contract (no getting out now) 2. Knows what to expect from the NY media this time next year.... his bald head on the back page. Was this article really worth the back page? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Matt39 43,051 Posted January 28 Popular Post Share Posted January 28 Article was fair. It’s nice to actual see some accountability from the press. His first draft class to date looks poor. He needs to do better. Nothing wrong with pointing that out. It’s not like he doesn’t know the team went 2-14 with little production from the rookies. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post sec101row23 8,414 Posted January 28 Popular Post Share Posted January 28 So because Costello didn’t say that JD can walk on water and is the savior that all Jet fans have been praying for, it’s a hit piece? Costello is right, the honeymoon is over, JD stripped down the team, now it’s time to make it better, a lot better. This is the pivotal year, tons of cap, tons of draft capital, now do something worthwhile with it. 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Werblin 5,010 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Mostly s factual article that has the hit you over the head obvious conclusion ... Now that Douglas has everything in place and an enormous amount of cap room results on the field should be expected. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riggy001 333 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 There is nothing in this article that I disagree with. You call it ‘ hit piece’ , that bs.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68JET11 1,091 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, redlichtie said: LOL....not sure if this is sarcasm, he took a 7-9 team and DECIMATED it!!......turning it INTO the worst in the league....Adam Gase, as crap as he was, has a legit reason to feel aggrieved that the rug was pulled from under him....Douglas has serious questions to answer and major blemishes on the report card already. How do you know that GASE didn't approve of what he was doing ? My bet is that JD knew that AG had Chris's ear and probably went along with some of the things they discussed, and maybe some they didn't agree on, but who knows really... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 43,051 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 As far as Becton goes, it looks like he should be a good player. But if he's missing games and taking himself out again next year, it's going to be a problem. Mims is an unknown coming off a disappointing rookie year. Davis struggled. Zuniga will probably be on the roster bubble. Perine looked sluggish. Powell stunk as a rookie so you hope it was just acclimation, but a 4.6+ 40 is what it is. Davis- wasted pick most likely Clarke- Roster bubble most likely Punter- great 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetophile 73,191 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 hours ago, Greenbloodblitz said: From the time Gase and Douglas got here they've completely flipped everything in the front office. So much turnover it's ridiculous and it's definitely going to take time to come to fruition. I flip tables over this team, does that count? 'So much turnover', I'll give them turnover. They should see what happens when I walk into my livingroom after HT most Sundays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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