Paradis Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Is that real or just a rumor? And I think he was saying Shanahan needs an elite QB to win (just like any coach/system needs in today's NFL). Not that he would pass on an elite QB because he can win with an average QB. I think some wanna be story breakers are gambling on reporting it’s going down without actually knowing - hoping to hit the piñata but, Stafford is likely heading there. Both sides are talking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted January 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mike135 said: So Watson asked for the trade weeks ago? If true, that puts everything that has happened lately in a new light. Did the Jets and Saleh know this when they both decided to work together? Were all the tweets of Watson in the NY area his way of confirming he's coming here? There's just way too much smoke here for there not to be a fire. Watson was not hanging in Miami, Chicago, SF, or Carolina. At this point you've gotta figure 70% or better chance Watson is our QB soon. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, heymangold said: Michael Kay said he got a DM from a Houston media guy, saying that Watson’s “media manager” pushing him toward it due to the idea he can be the face of the franchise and the endorsement opportunities that NYC has. Not for nothing but he can that anywhere. That whole NYC argument is stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Paradis said: It’s called bait, big guy. and it worked. So when you are and @T0mShane meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 42 minutes ago, pointman said: Nah. Expectations will be high if we have Watson. Saleh comes in with high expectations, big salary space, a GM who is believed to know what he is doing, and his own coaching staff. If he falls on his face out the gate, people will form a mob to demand his head. 10 years? Not even close. Firing Saleh at any point would lead to Watson shooting his way outta here. Thats what we are signing up for 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Samtorobby47 said: Not for nothing but he can that anywhere. That whole NYC argument is stupid. Success here is better if you like city life. People like Chris Canty singing about what it means to be a champion here over somewhere else, is telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: So when you are and @T0mShane meeting. Count me in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, DetroitRed said: Firing Saleh at any point would lead to Watson shooting his way outta here. Thats what we are signing up for Nah. Watson isn't dating Saleh, or the father of his child. Plus, if Saleh gets canned.. it probably means we got a whole lot more issues. Watson wants out of Houston for their continued ineptitude and the moron nobody running that franchise. At least our moron running the franchise is kind of liked by the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 51 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I really have no idea why the fear of Darnold succeeding elsewhere exceeds the fear of missing out on a franchise QB for Jets fans. The former (Jets QB failing here but succeeding elsewhere) has never happened. The latter has happened several times. The Jets could have had Peyton Manning, traded up 1 spot for Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Pat Mahomes or Deshaun Watson, but passed on all of these in lieu of the presence of another, usually sh*tty QB already on the roster. It's maddening. Remember when Chip Kelly was going to make Mark Sanchez elite? @T0mShane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, pointman said: Nah. Watson isn't dating Saleh, or the father of his child. Plus, if Saleh gets canned.. it probably means we got a whole lot more issues. Watson wants out of Houston for their continued ineptitude and the moron nobody running that franchise. At least our moron running the franchise is kind of liked by the players. WHy does he want to come here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 To get Watson, they'd have to send all FOUR of their first-round picks and both seconds over the next two years PLUS Sam Darnold. i read this just now and if true i'd pass. getting watson would be great, but whats the point if you take away all your ability to build a strong team around him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Firing Saleh at any point would lead to Watson shooting his way outta here. Thats what we are signing up for To be fair though. If Saleh is getting fired is almost certain to be because Watson hasn't been all that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, pointman said: Count me in! me 2 ! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 This is a pretty good video guess at what could happen BUT it ends up with the Jets having to be the team Houston needs to trade with . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Hypothetical Jets trade for Watson the package whatever it is includes the #2 pick. Draft day Jaguars drop a bomb and pass on Lawrence. Are you pissed, or nah Watson all the way? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, JiF said: Remember when Chip Kelly was going to make Mark Sanchez elite? @T0mShane 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, FidelioJet said: To be fair though. If Saleh is getting fired is almost certain to be because Watson hasn't been all that good. I guess. He was great and 4-12 last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said: Not for nothing but he can that anywhere. That whole NYC argument is stupid. You’re right. But his media manager is pushing NY. He instantly becomes the best player in the NY market for football teams. He becomes the best QB the Jets have ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, DetroitRed said: WHy does he want to come here? Location location location. Might not mean anything to you, but New York City means a hell of a lot to a ton of people. Many not jaded by being here are clamoring to get here. Plus, we have great facilities. Ownership is pro player. Joe Douglas isn't a dickhead (yet). Former players sing our praises. We have cap space and most likely will take input from our franchise QB. And the bagels here are incredible. Don't forget the sausage egg and cheese either. Saleh is a piece of the puzzle, not the whole damn board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, neckdemon said: To get Watson, they'd have to send all FOUR of their first-round picks and both seconds over the next two years PLUS Sam Darnold. i read this just now and if true i'd pass I'm still in, and aroused, if that's truly what it takes and the Jets aren't just bidding against themselves. Luckily it wouldn't be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heymangold Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, neckdemon said: To get Watson, they'd have to send all FOUR of their first-round picks and both seconds over the next two years PLUS Sam Darnold. i read this just now and if true i'd pass. getting watson would be great, but whats the point if you take away all your ability to build a strong team around him? That’s just simply not true. I guarantee no team is going to send 4 first and seconds. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZachEY Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, neckdemon said: To get Watson, they'd have to send all FOUR of their first-round picks and both seconds over the next two years PLUS Sam Darnold. i read this just now and if true i'd pass. getting watson would be great, but whats the point if you take away all your ability to build a strong team around him? No one else is going to be able to bid anything close to that, so that's not the price. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, neckdemon said: To get Watson, they'd have to send all FOUR of their first-round picks and both seconds over the next two years PLUS Sam Darnold. i read this just now and if true i'd pass Half of that is probably as high as I would go. Two first and one second. Including #2 overall and #34...and I would even offer the higher of our two 1st next year. Any more than that and I roll with Wilson/Fields/Lance... And sure, they can have Sam too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, heymangold said: Michael Kay said he got a DM from a Houston media guy, saying that Watson’s “media manager” pushing him toward it due to the idea he can be the face of the franchise and the endorsement opportunities that NYC has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, neckdemon said: To get Watson, they'd have to send all FOUR of their first-round picks and both seconds over the next two years PLUS Sam Darnold. Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, neckdemon said: To get Watson, they'd have to send all FOUR of their first-round picks and both seconds over the next two years PLUS Sam Darnold. i read this just now and if true i'd pass. getting watson would be great, but whats the point if you take away all your ability to build a strong team around him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, joewilly12 said: Link? Its what some Houston fan wrote on a forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, neckdemon said: To get Watson, they'd have to send all FOUR of their first-round picks and both seconds over the next two years PLUS Sam Darnold. i read this just now and if true i'd pass. getting watson would be great, but whats the point if you take away all your ability to build a strong team around him? If that's true, then yeah, nope. Douglas would never give that up anyway. But somehow, if Watson does get dealt, I don't think that will be the final price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I'm still in, and aroused, if that's truly what it takes and the Jets aren't just bidding against themselves. Luckily it wouldn't be. I want Watson as well, but I would not close to aroused giving up 4 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: QB's are more volatile than other positions in the draft. 50 % is about right for the bust rate for QB's, even ones taken that high. And even if he doesn't bust, there's at least an 80 % chance that the QB taken there won't come close to being as good as Watson. At # 2, the Jets would be taking a QB, period. If they choose not to, then they will trade down to someone who will. So QB's are all that need to be considered when considering the value of # 2. The value of the #2 pick and the value of Watson are independent of each other. Just because many seem to want Watson desparately does not make it a generic 1st round pic. The reality is that the #2 itself is worth as much as many teams 3 1sts would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Jetsfan4life90 said: I want Watson as well, but I would not close to aroused giving up 4 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, JiF said: Remember when Chip Kelly was going to make Mark Sanchez elite? @T0mShane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, johnnysd said: The value of the #2 pick and the value of Watson are independent of each other. Just because many seem to want Watson desparately does not make it a generic 1st round pic. The reality is that the #2 itself is worth as much as many teams 3 1sts would be Watson's value is priceless, because you can't win a title without one of a short list of elite QB's. Watson would make that list, and he isn't even in his prime yet. So three "standard" 1st rounders still falls well short. Just ask the Chiefs what it would take to get Mahomes right now. 10 first rounders wouldn't be enough. Watson is just a notch below that level in terms of value. He's the 2nd most valuable asset in the entire league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I don’t know how much more of this I can really take 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, T0mShane said: It's ok, if Deshaun Watson comes to NY I will forgive you. I will forgive everyone!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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