T0mShane Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Savage69 said: We got a 1st for Abe which got us Mangold but we never replaced what Abe brought to the team.. Wasn’t too upset by that one. Abe was a dog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Wasn’t too upset by that one. Abe was a dog 133.5 sacks says that dog had teeth.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 27, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Savage69 said: 133.5 sacks says that dog had teeth.. Compiler 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Anti-Watson bros: an exercise for you. Here is the 2021 #23 pick, the 2022 #15 pick, along with $10 mil in cap space this year, and $30 mil in 2022. Please demonstrate how Joe Douglas can best use those resources to make Zack Wilson=Deshaun Watson. Please show your work. For the record, I’m not anti-Watson at all. For the right comp I’d love to have him. but I’ll play along. first off, I’m not taking Wilson, too “pasty” for me. I’ll trade back and take fields who is not “pasty” at all and I think the better player. with those picks I accumulate, plus the ones you mention, I take OL, WR, Edge. Best prospects I can. In addition, I use FA money saved on corner. I believe fields will be a better east coast qb thank Watson. So for me this is easy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sourceworx Posted February 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2021 32 minutes ago, Savage69 said: 133.5 sacks says that dog had teeth.. He took himself out of the 2004 Divisional round game against Pittsburgh because he was worried about getting injured and missing out on a big contact. He abandoned his team when they needed him most. Sh!t on Curtis Martin all you want, but he never would have done that. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 To those saying shut up and dribble... I agree Watson is no saint. NFL players are catching up to MLB and NBA attitudes. This is the new normal. Accept that, and take advantage of that, or suck. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, sourceworx said: He took himself out of the 2004 Divisional round game against Pittsburgh because he was worried about getting injured and missing out on a big contact. He abandoned his team when they needed him most. Sh!t on Curtis Martin all you want, but he never would have done that. No he entered into a contract with the Tuna that his team couldn't match which the league ruled illegal after that.. I know if he didn't do it to the Jets it don't matter, it's like knowing someone whose a car thief but since he don't steal your car he's a class dude..LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 McClains latest ridiculous offer from Jets. 3 1st round picks 1 2nd round pick Sam Quinnen yeah I don’t see that happening lmao. that’s like 6 or 7 1st round picks worth of value right there. Considering number 2 overall could get at least 1 or 2 1st round picks on its own. Sam might fetch a 1. Quinnen would def be worth a 1. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: McClains latest ridiculous offer from Jets. 3 1st round picks 1 2nd round pick Sam Quinnen yeah I don’t see that happening lmao. that’s like 6 or 7 1st round picks worth of value right there. Considering number 2 overall could get at least 1 or 2 1st round picks on its own. Sam might fetch a 1. Quinnen would def be worth a 1. The “perhaps [...] Quinnen Williams” is a giveaway that it’s not in consideration by the Texans to even ask for Quinnen Williams. It’s simply pointing out how high the Jets could go if they had to. The crux of the return is 2, 23, and the Jets first next year, plus some gift wrap. The Texans don’t want or need Darnold if they get 2 anyway. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 He says all of our firsts and 2nds the next two years, gotta be on drugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Texans start there, Douglas says what’s your next best offer... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: He says all of our firsts and 2nds the next two years, gotta be on drugs He (McClain) says it’s “three ones, a two, Darnold...” He either doesn’t know that the Jets have an extra one next year or he mispoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 23 hours ago, nycdan said: Hopkins piling on Damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinamite Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 29 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: McClains latest ridiculous offer from Jets. 3 1st round picks 1 2nd round pick Sam Quinnen yeah I don’t see that happening lmao. that’s like 6 or 7 1st round picks worth of value right there. Considering number 2 overall could get at least 1 or 2 1st round picks on its own. Sam might fetch a 1. Quinnen would def be worth a 1. Absurd. He is the mouthpiece of the Texans, so if that is what they want, good luck. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganggreen305 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dinamite said: Absurd. He is the mouthpiece of the Texans, so if that is what they want, good luck. No fkn way! F them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sourceworx Posted February 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, Dinamite said: Absurd. He is the mouthpiece of the Texans, so if that is what they want, good luck. Houston isn't negotiating from a position of strength, and everyone knows it. If Watson sits this year they're screwed. They have no cap space to sign a QB, and no picks to draft one. Also adding Sam to a trade package that includes the #2 pick is redundant. McClain is throwing sh!t at a wall to see what sticks. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 2, 23, 2022 first, 2022 second - That would probably be my top offer. If they want Sam they can lose one of those picks. I ultimately think it gets done for three firsts. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag928 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 2, 23, 2022 first, 2022 second - That would probably be my top offer. If they want Sam they can lose one of those picks. I ultimately think it gets done for three firsts.If this is what it takes it is absolutely palatable. Get it done Trader JoeSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag928 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 2, 23, 2022 first, 2022 second - That would probably be my top offer. If they want Sam they can lose one of those picks. I ultimately think it gets done for three firsts.AKA Jamal Adams, Sam Darnold & #2 overall. **** Yes. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 hours ago, bla bla bla said: 2, 23, 2022 first, 2022 second - That would probably be my top offer. If they want Sam they can lose one of those picks. I ultimately think it gets done for three firsts. I could still swallow this pill ... barely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 [/url] McClains latest ridiculous offer from Jets. 3 1st round picks 1 2nd round pick Sam Quinnen yeah I don’t see that happening lmao. that’s like 6 or 7 1st round picks worth of value right there. Considering number 2 overall could get at least 1 or 2 1st round picks on its own. Sam might fetch a 1. Quinnen would def be worth a 1.When will it end ??? The amount if time wasted on this nightmarish fantasy is comical and depressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Jetlag928 said: If this is what it takes it is absolutely palatable. Get it done Trader Joe Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app The Jets would be getting buttraped in that trade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigRy56 Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 Reminiscent of when Manish came out and put the final nail in Jamal's 'trade me' coffin... Does anybody see a way that Watson ever plays for the Texans again? This one is over - just a matter of time and JD better be there to pull that trigger 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Dunnie said: When will it end ??? The amount if time wasted on this nightmarish fantasy is comical and depressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Does anybody see a way that Watson ever plays for the Texans again? This one is over - just a matter of time and JD better be there to pull that trigger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 20 hours ago, Dinamite said: Absurd. He is the mouthpiece of the Texans, so if that is what they want, good luck. Was just about to post this.. mcclain is a clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Reminiscent of when Manish came out and put the final nail in Jamal's 'trade me' coffin... Does anybody see a way that Watson ever plays for the Texans again? This one is over - just a matter of time and JD better be there to pull that trigger Organizations do this to prep the fanbase and lessen the blowback before the trade gets made. Juicy, juicy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Organizations do this to prep the fanbase and lessen the blowback before the trade gets made. Juicy, juicy. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Organizations do this to prep the fanbase and lessen the blowback before the trade gets made. Juicy, juicy. If the Texans deserve credit for anything in this fiasco, it's how they have handled the situation publicly since it started getting out that Watson wants out. Have made many public and leaked sentiments about how they absolutely do not want to trade him under any circumstance. This will get some of their fan base to turn on Watson. Hell some of our fan base has turned on Watson because of it. Now, as you said this is the next step. This is the first of many reports I expect we will now see where media types say the Texans should just move on, and blame it all in Watson. Then multiple reports will come regarding what it would take to get a trade done because as much as they've tried, Watson is just being too stubborn. Then finally a trade will be completed and most Houston fans will blame Watson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Every day that goes by and the Texans have a malcontent on their hands, they lose leverage. The league can wait them out and then they'll either have to let him sit out, or puke him for next to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: If the Texans deserve credit for anything in this fiasco, it's how they have handled the situation publicly since it started getting out that Watson wants out. Have made many public and leaked sentiments about how they absolutely do not want to trade him under any circumstance. This will get some of their fan base to turn on Watson. Hell some of our fan base has turned on Watson because of it. Now, as you said this is the next step. This is the first of many reports I expect we will now see where media types say the Texans should just move on, and blame it all in Watson. Then multiple reports will come regarding what it would take to get a trade done because as much as they've tried, Watson is just being too stubborn. Then finally a trade will be completed and most Houston fans will blame Watson. Were I given to conspiracies, I’d guess that there’s division inside the Texans management team over how to deal with Watson, and that’s why we’re getting “no way are the Texans trading him” and “actually, the Texans want this, this, and this for Watson.” I’d guess that Caserio wants to make a deal and lock up some picks, but McNair and Jim Jones think they can make Watson suffer long enough to break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Were I given to conspiracies, I’d guess that there’s division inside the Texans management team over how to deal with Watson, and that’s why we’re getting “no way are the Texans trading him” and “actually, the Texans want this, this, and this for Watson.” I’d guess that Caserio wants to make a deal and lock up some picks, but McNair and Jim Jones think they can make Watson suffer long enough to break. Or basically waive the no trade and let them try to get the best deal for the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 20 hours ago, sourceworx said: Houston isn't negotiating from a position of strength, and everyone knows it. If Watson sits this year they're screwed. They have no cap space to sign a QB, and no picks to draft one. Also adding Sam to a trade package that includes the #2 pick is redundant. McClain is throwing sh!t at a wall to see what sticks. 12 minutes ago, section314 said: Every day that goes by and the Texans have a malcontent on their hands, they lose leverage. The league can wait them out and then they'll either have to let him sit out, or puke him for next to nothing. If Watson is as good as everyone thinks he is, and multiple teams want him and are willing to trade huge hauls for him, Texans have plenty of leverage. Lets not act like Houston has to trade him, and the Jets are the only possible suitors. Thats not the case at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, section314 said: Or basically waive the no trade and let them try to get the best deal for the team. Even in that scenario, I don’t see who else can give them a better deal than the Jets, except for the Dolphins if they sell the farm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 He wants us in a bidding war with the Fins and a shot at Tua . From PFT: McClain also makes a point locally that some have made nationally: The Texans should try to pit the Jets against the Dolphins for Watson, which could spark a bidding war that will get the Texans even more for Watson. There are conflicting reports on whether Watson actually wants to play for the Jets, however. The challenge for Watson becomes finding a new team that, in giving up whatever it must to get Watson, won’t plunge into a perpetual 6-10 cycle during Watson’s prime years. The Dolphins, with the third overall pick (from Houston) and second-year quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, seem to have the ammunition to make the deal without compromising the current trajectory of the team.The Dolphins also would be well-suited to admit that, as short-list franchise quarterbacks go, Tagovailoa likely won’t become one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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