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1 minute ago, kevinc855 said:

Hearing rumors from giants land that they are very much in mix. 3 firsts and Daniel Jones. Rumor is Barkley on the table as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/28/espn-breaks-down-hypothetical-new-york-giants-houston-texans-trade-deshaun-watson/amp/

I'm not sure anyone will take them seriously. Barkley is about to get a massive contract, doesn't feel like a move a cap strapped team makes.

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5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Hearing rumors from giants land that they are very much in mix. 3 firsts and Daniel Jones. Rumor is Barkley on the table as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/28/espn-breaks-down-hypothetical-new-york-giants-houston-texans-trade-deshaun-watson/amp/

What in this article made you make this thread? 

A trade of superstar quarterback Deshaun Watson from the Houston Texans to New York Giants is highly unlikely

or

Either way, this scenario is ridiculous even in hypothetical land for both the Giants and Texans. It’s not something that’s going to happen,

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7 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Hearing rumors from giants land that they are very much in mix. 3 firsts and Daniel Jones. Rumor is Barkley on the table as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/28/espn-breaks-down-hypothetical-new-york-giants-houston-texans-trade-deshaun-watson/amp/

Define the word "hypothetical" for me, and then look at your thread title.

I'll wait.

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8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Hearing rumors from giants land that they are very much in mix. 3 firsts and Daniel Jones. Rumor is Barkley on the table as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/28/espn-breaks-down-hypothetical-new-york-giants-houston-texans-trade-deshaun-watson/amp/

You should have your thread starting privileges revoked.  

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18 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Hearing rumors from giants land that they are very much in mix. 3 firsts and Daniel Jones. Rumor is Barkley on the table as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/28/espn-breaks-down-hypothetical-new-york-giants-houston-texans-trade-deshaun-watson/amp/

Because everyone knows the way to rebuild is around a running back coming off an ACL injury about to be due his 2nd contract...

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24 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Hearing rumors from giants land that they are very much in mix. 3 firsts and Daniel Jones. Rumor is Barkley on the table as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/28/espn-breaks-down-hypothetical-new-york-giants-houston-texans-trade-deshaun-watson/amp/

Already posted. @kevinc855

 

Ranking Giants’ top 12 trade assets for possible Texans’ Deshaun Watson deal

Updated 7:15 AM; Today 7:15 AM 
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New York Giants running back Saquon Barkley (26) missed most of the 2020 season with a torn ACL.AP

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The moment it became public that Deshaun Watson formally requested a trade from the Houston Texans, fans everywhere began coming up with trade ideas to bring one of the NFL’s best quarterbacks to their favorite team.

For some teams, like the Jets or Dolphins, it’s a more realistic possibility considering the combination of tradable assets and cap space. There are others that wouldn’t broach the subject out of happiness with their current situation (like the Chiefs or Seahawks) and others that probably couldn’t afford it if they wanted to (like the Eagles or Saints).

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That still leaves most of the league in the middle-ground — teams that should at least explore what it would cost. Most agree it will be significant.

 

The Giants are one of the teams in that area. They don’t have a large amount of cap space (they’re currently projected to be $3 million over, but can clear space pretty easily) or draft picks (six this year, with no fifth-round pick).

So outside of draft picks, what do the Giants have to offer?

 

Here’s a look at the 12 players on the Giants’ roster that would carry the most value in any trade, be it with the Texans or another team:

 

12. G Kevin Zeitler: Maybe this is an unfair ranking since Zeitler is a quality starting guard that could certainly help a team in need of offensive line upgrades. But there a few things going against his value. 1. His cost: Zeitler has a $12 million salary in 2021 on the last year of his contract. 2. The Giants might wind up cutting him anyway. 3. Guards in recent years haven’t netted much in trades. The Rams traded a fifth-round pick for Austin Corbett in 2019. That year, the Browns also traded a fifth and sixth for Wyatt Teller, the Patriots traded a fourth for Jermaine Eluemunor (and a sixth), and the Jets traded a fifth for Kelechi Osemele.

 

11. TE Evan Engram: He made his first Pro Bowl this season, and yet his trade value has probably never been lower. That’s true in terms of performance (11 drops, six interceptions when he was targeted in 2020) and contract (Engram is entering the final year of his deal). Still, despite all the errors, Engram clearly has talent and is the sort of player another team could convince themselves they can unlock his potential.

10. S Xavier McKinney: He only played in six games at the end of the season — really four, as the Giants eased him back in for a few weeks — but he was the top-drafted safety last year for a reason. He’s a fun prospect and flashed some of that potential by the end of the year, getting a game-winning interception in Week 17. He’s also on his rookie contract.

 

9. WR Darius Slayton: As long as he’s not the No. 1 receiver, Slayton has shown he can be a productive deep threat. He’s one of only 26 wide receivers with at least 1,400 yards and 10 touchdowns combined the last two years, and only four others were drafted within that timeframe. He’s also cheap — Slayton is only due $1.8 million in salary combined over the next two years.

8. WR Sterling Shepard: He has issues staying healthy (10 missed games the last two years) but when he plays, he’s reliable and productive. He’s one of only 25 wide receivers to accumulate at least 300 catches, 3,500 yards and 20 touchdowns since 2016, and that’s while playing in fewer games than 19 of those receivers. He did sign a sizable deal recently, but any team that trades for Shepard would only have to pay him around $7 million in 2021, which is a perfectly reasonable price for a productive receiver. He’s only 27 too.

 

7. S Jabrill Peppers: Peppers started to show signs that he was realizing his potential in 2020. It was his best season (91 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 11 pass deflections, one interception), and he should only keep improving. He’s also only 26 and earning a reasonable salary ($6.7 million) in 2021, though it’s the final year of his contract.

 

6. LB Blake Martinez: Inside linebackers don’t typically net significant assets in return, but Martinez is coming off arguably his best all-around season as a pro (151 tackles, three sacks, two forced fumbles, one interception, five pass deflections) and improved significantly in coverage. He’s only 27, and would cost a reasonable $8.12 million to any acquiring team.

 

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5. T Andrew Thomas: Even if most would argue he was the worst of the four highly-drafted tackle prospects from last year (Mekhi Becton, Tristan Wirfs, Jedrick Wills the others), by the end of the season Thomas was showing signs of becoming a player worthy of the fourth overall pick last year. He looks like a potential long-term starter at one of the most important positions, and is under team control for at least four more years.

 

4. QB Daniel Jones: This is a difficult one to place since it’s entirely dependent on how the acquiring team feels about Jones’ potential. He certainly hasn’t shown enough through two years to convince anyone he’s a star-caliber quarterback. Some around the league are much higher on Jones than others. If the acquiring teams values Jones’ potential, an argument could be made to put Jones at the top of this list. Remember: Nick Foles garnered a fourth-round pick just last year. Josh Rosen netted a second AND fifth-round pick in 2019.

 
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1 hour ago, kevinc855 said:

Hearing rumors from giants land that they are very much in mix. 3 firsts and Daniel Jones. Rumor is Barkley on the table as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/28/espn-breaks-down-hypothetical-new-york-giants-houston-texans-trade-deshaun-watson/amp/

Isn't Barkley outspoken? Would the Texans want Barkley? Would they want Daniel Jones? Jones seems like he has a very low ceiling. Sam is a boom bust guy who could do great things provided the right surrounding cast. Jones seems like a a steady lukewarm at best.

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