Popular Post PS17 Posted January 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: The Rams just kicked Jared Goff right in the nuts. Worse—they sent him to Detroit. 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, football guy said: I still think the Jets-Panthers have a gentlemen’s agreement. We’ll see ? Hmmm! #8, #39, #73 this year. 2135 vs. #2 value of 2600. There would need to be a ‘22 1st & maybe this year’s 2nd & 3rd? And Robby Anderson LOL Is that too much in light of the QB market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Love this deal for the lions, that said I don’t think this deal affects watsons potential deal at all. We all know what Watson is worth and what the Texans will ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 57 minutes ago, Barkus said: 2 1st rounders + for 33yr old oft injured QB who has never won a playoff game?? just realized part of the cost is also for Detroit to take Goff’s awful contract too. Stafford was very durable most of his career. He’s gotten killed the last year because of protection. He’s not “oft-injured”. 56 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: The rams might have the dumbest front office in the league. Never seen a team just throw so many first round picks away. How many is that now theyve traded away?5?6? In a row. Gonna be funny watching them fail with stat padford. Houston Texans front office says “hold my beer”. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 That’s pretty much the Jamal Adams trade. Goff is a throw in with that contract. Those 1st, like the ones we got from Seattle, will be in the 20’s. We will be including the #2 pick in the draft. This doesn’t change my view on the Watson trade at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, football guy said: I still think the Jets-Panthers have a gentlemen’s agreement. We’ll see Rumblings of this or just a gut feeling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, football guy said: I still think the Jets-Panthers have a gentlemen’s agreement. We’ll see Interesting. I feel like it's way too early to be coming up with any type of agreement. And this is why. Hoping for a bidding war for the 2nd pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 holy shi*, never fails. I spend all day on this stinking forum and nothing happens. I go down to cycle for 45 minutes and this happens. That was about the price some talking heads were speculating about earlier this week , at least two first rounders and I just laughed at it. I would guess that the high price has to do with Detroit taking on the Goff contact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, Jetlife33 said: Rumblings of this or just a gut feeling? If Schefter and Rapoport don’t know sh*t I’m gonna guess football guy on JetNation is in the same boat. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 i dont know why anyone is surprised. good QBs dont grow on trees. what happend was a bidding war over Stafford. some team said i give you one first rd, and the Rams said, ok i give you 2. i want him, i want to win NOW. and that whats going to happen with Watson. he was always going to get at least 4 #1s. and more. once the bidding starts it will be all that plus some other late rd picks and maybe players too. maybe this will get you guys all out of fantasy world. i never thought Watson would come here. but if im wrong and he does want to come here. we give whatever it takes. hes too good to pass up. at worst if we lose out we drove up the price for other teams. as someone else mentioned how the Rams give up all there #1s , yet i pointed out how good they are in spite of that. it can be done if JD is as good as we hope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 This is why Watson won't be traded. Given all the pressure on that front office, they can't accept a Hopkins like deal. Watson would have to go for twice a Stafford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyLV Posted January 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2021 People seem to not realize that what the Rams gave up is less value than our 2nd pick. People insist on referring to 1st rounders like they have the same value. The Rams package might not even be half the value of the Jets 2nd pick because they are all in the future. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, Beerfish said: holy shi*, never fails. I spend all day on this stinking forum and nothing happens. I go down to cycle for 45 minutes and this happens. That was about the price some talking heads were speculating about earlier this week , at least two first rounders and I just laughed at it. I would guess that the high price has to do with Detroit taking on the Goff contact. Wouldn’t the same apply to Jets taking on Watson contract while Texans get inexpensive rookie Qb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, johnnysd said: People seem to not realize that what the Rams gave up is less value than our 2nd pick. People insist on referring to 1st rounders like they have the same value. The Rams package might not even be half the value of the Jets 2nd pick because they are all in the future. Yep, this is exactly right and why this trade doesn’t affect our potential deal with Houston. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: holy shi*, never fails. I spend all day on this stinking forum and nothing happens. I go down to cycle for 45 minutes and this happens. That was about the price some talking heads were speculating about earlier this week , at least two first rounders and I just laughed at it. I would guess that the high price has to do with Detroit taking on the Goff contact. It's 3 future first rounders from a good team. Worth less than our 2nd pick. Don't mistake that JD won't know that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, Greensleeves said: The only thing that trade would do is make it easier for the Dolphins to get him. Their picks would have more value by a good amount. I agree but the Dolphins wouldn't have enough future capital either. If Caserio thinks like Belicheck, that will be important to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Future picks are generally valued as a round less for every year out. So... 2022 1st is valued as a 2nd rd pick 2023 1st is valued as a 3rd rd pick. so those picks wouldn’t even be worth our Seattle 1st this year. The only crazy thing is that LA just avoids 1st round picks like they are Covid contaminated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 49 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I mean, I guess. That being said, 2 1s are 2 1s. Watson isn’t going for less than that, especially not after this trade. 2 1s is most certainly NOT not 2 1s. Wish people would wake up to this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: holy shi*, never fails. I spend all day on this stinking forum and nothing happens. I go down to cycle for 45 minutes and this happens. That was about the price some talking heads were speculating about earlier this week , at least two first rounders and I just laughed at it. I would guess that the high price has to do with Detroit taking on the Goff contact. Get back on the peloton until we get Watson! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Wow! What’s Watson gonna go for, 5 1st round picks? More like 15. What a bunch of dopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: This is why Watson won't be traded. Given all the pressure on that front office, they can't accept a Hopkins like deal. Watson would have to go for twice a Stafford. Just our number 2 overall alone is TWICE Stafford. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The Rams just kicked Jared Goff right in the nuts. vs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, football guy said: I still think the Jets-Panthers have a gentlemen’s agreement. We’ll see The second pick for 8, 39, and the Panthers first in 2022 is really, really close to fair value on the chart and kind of a win-win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Wit said: Holy sh*t balls. The lions got those first rounders for getting the rams out of cap hell. The salary diff is only $8M for 2021, 2022 and 2023. It just saves them from being stuck with a gutless crappy QB for the next 6 years. Even though Detroit is getting 3 draft picks, I feel like the Rams got the better of them. Goff sucks and McVay had it with him. They will probably draft a QB this year or next. San Fran is going to get a new QB as well. Mostly because they can cut Garoppolo this year with minimal cap implications. So either SF trades for Darnold, Watson or drafts one in the 1st round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, derp said: The second pick for 8, 39, and the Panthers first in 2022 is really, really close to fair value on the chart and kind of a win-win. I wonder who we would target at 8 if this hypothetical deal happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, joebabyny said: Future picks are generally valued as a round less for every year out. So... 2022 1st is valued as a 2nd rd pick 2023 1st is valued as a 3rd rd pick. First part yes, second part no. Picks two years out don't get traded often enough for there to really be a standard discount rate but in practice it's definitely less than another full round. I've seen that written before but it's off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 29 minutes ago, football guy said: I still think the Jets-Panthers have a gentlemen’s agreement. We’ll see Seems kinda early for any kind of agreement. Better be a hell of a deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 THAT IS THE EXACT SAME DEAL JOE DOUGLAS GOT FOR A SAFETY. With the one great exception that Joe Douglas didn’t take on an albatross contract of a crappy quarterback in Jared Goff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetlife33 said: I wonder who we would target at 8 if this hypothetical deal happened. They’d need to be okay with taking Waddle, a a subsequent trade down, or a QB who falls to 8. Possibly Slater as well. Theoretically the Panthers’ 2022 first is a significant asset. Top two picks are Lawrence and Wilson/Fields. I’d think Smith, Chase, Pitts, and Sewell are of interest at 8. If you’re interested in Waddle, Slater, and the other of Fields/Wilson or Lance at 8 then they just take who falls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Pelissero just said a team in the top ten this year offered the Lions their first (Carolina or Denver at 8/9 I’m sure). Why on earth did they not take that deal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 The big winner in this trade IMO is JD. By setting the market for what a sh!t QB contract costs to unload, the price of a Fields or Wilson on a rookie deal just went up... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, JTJet said: Trade back with Lions... Jets get: Pick 7 and 2022 1st Lions get: Pick 2 Call Texans... Jets get: Deshaun Texans get: Pick 7, 2x 2022 1st, 2023 1st. That's a way to pay 4 1sts for Deshaun, yet keep our 23rd this year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, PS17 said: Pelissero just said a team in the top ten this year offered the Lions their first (Carolina or Denver at 8/9 I’m sure). Why on earth did they not take that deal? Sounds like Carolina was indeed in on it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Get back on the peloton until we get Watson! Believe me between winter time an covid i need a LOT more time on the bike. I've probably stacked on at least 10-15 pounds this past year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 hours ago, PS17 said: Pelissero just said a team in the top ten this year offered the Lions their first (Carolina or Denver at 8/9 I’m sure). Why on earth did they not take that deal? Good question. And, if a supposed offense/QB guru like McVay doesn't think he can win with Goff then who the hell thinks Dan Campbell can win with him? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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