ZachEY Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: Yeah. It's obviously too much given the player and the money but it's not implausible at all. I don't know that I could come up with a better guess. If there ever was any fuel to the Dallas fire, maybe #44 for Adams. Maybe throw a mid/late rounder next year to help everyone save face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Just now, TeddEY said: If there ever was any fuel to the Dallas fire, maybe #44 for Adams. Maybe throw a mid/late rounder next year to help everyone save face? I don't really see that now with Prescott having gone all the way to the wire. Can't rule anything out when the owner gives three ****s instead of zero though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 This franchise is incredibly stupid... They may end up trading 3 1st round picks and QW who was another 1st round pick for a guy they could have drafted instead of Adams. It is nearly impossible to make the NY Jets look smart, and yet trading Adams did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 56 minutes ago, TeddEY said: The worst one we've ever made. I don't know how you can say that with a straight (or gay) face. Vernon G. says hi. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZachEY Posted February 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, peebag said: I don't know how you can say that with a straight (or gay) face. Vernon G. says hi. Worst player =/= Worst Pick With 12 years of hindsight, there's still not a homerun at 6. Ironically, you'd probably take Joe Flacco. Calias Campbell? Desean Jackson? In 2017, the Jets QB room included Josh McCown, Bryce Petty, and Christian Hackenberg. We did this: Go back to 2008, and tell me what realistic move you'd make at 6, that would change the fortunes of this franchise. Now, do it for 2017. So, if you were offered one do-over, is there even a debate? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 16 hours ago, T0mShane said: Anyone who didn’t see the logic or need to dump Jamal Adams when we did is a fool and doesn’t get to retroactively apologize for supporting Adams and/or support signing him to an extension. You were a clown then and you shall forever remain a clown in perpetuity. EAD. @bitonti @More Cowbell @Pac @Defense Wins Championships @Dunnie @kevinc855 @NYJ1 @Larz @SAR I @Jetscode1 @Prodigal Syndicate @Mike135 @DLJ @BettyBoop @ScarletKnight89 @joewilly12 @Jet Nut @rangerous @jetstream23 @Thai Jet @GreenFish 2 4 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: @bitonti @More Cowbell @Pac @Defense Wins Championships @Dunnie @kevinc855 @NYJ1 @Jetscode1 @Prodigal Syndicate @Mike135 @DLJ @Butterfield @ScarletKnight89 @joewilly12 @Jet Nut WALK THE PLANK, CLOWNS 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike135 Posted February 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: WALK THE PLANK, CLOWNS I think this calls for bringing back one of my favorites... 1 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: @bitonti @More Cowbell @Pac @Defense Wins Championships @Dunnie @kevinc855 @NYJ1 @Larz @SAR I @Jetscode1 @Prodigal Syndicate @Mike135 @DLJ @BettyBoop @ScarletKnight89 @joewilly12 @Jet Nut @rangerous @jetstream23 @Thai Jet @GreenFish I stand by original take. Trading away pro bowlers you drafted defeats the purpose of actually hitting on our draft picks. As we always said, lets see who get with those picks. If its another Darron Lee or Dee Milliner guess you be the clown. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I stand by original take. Trading away pro bowlers you drafted defeats the purpose of actually hitting on our draft picks. As we always said, lets see who get with those picks. If its another Darron Lee or Dee Milliner guess you be the clown. Draft assets are draft assets. How the picks result is irrelevant to evaluating the trade. We moved a Box Safety for two 1sts and a 3rd, and just as importantly, avoided having to decide whether to hand him an $18M per year contract. And not only did Seattle give up a king's ransom, they got back a player who massively disappointed in 2020 outside of a few empty sacks. We won the trade. Seattle lost. It's over. Evaluation of the picks will be a separate item that has way more to do with Joe Douglas than it does Jamal Adams. Of course you're doubling down that this was a bad move. Of course you are. I never expected anything less. Because you just don't understand anything about player value or positional importance, and are simply being stubborn. Just about everyone else agrees the Jets got the better end of the deal. Including the Seahawks and their fans. This was one of the best trades in Jets history, and probably the worst trade the Seahawks have ever made. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Draft assets are draft assets. How the picks result is irrelevant to evaluating the trade. We moved a Box Safety for two 1sts and a 3rd, and just as importantly, avoided having to decide whether to hand him an $18M per year contract. We won the trade. Seattle lost. It's over. Wrong again, as usual. The trade cannot be graded until we see the results. This is not debatable. Anything else is childish boasting about something that doesnt exist in this thing we call reality. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bleedin Green Posted February 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: @bitonti @More Cowbell @Pac @Defense Wins Championships @Dunnie @kevinc855 @NYJ1 @Larz @SAR I @Jetscode1 @Prodigal Syndicate @Mike135 @DLJ @BettyBoop @ScarletKnight89 @joewilly12 @Jet Nut @rangerous @jetstream23 @Thai Jet @GreenFish @Jetsfan80 taking this a little seriously, huh? 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Wrong again, as usual. The trade cannot be graded until we see the results. This is not debatable. Anything else is childish boasting about something that doesnt exist in this thing we call reality. This is the equivalent of you covering your ears and yelling "La la la!" Childish? Talk about a pot and kettle situation! I pity you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Bleedin Green said: @Jetsfan80 taking this a little seriously, huh? I post here for the schadenfreude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Wrong again, as usual. The trade cannot be graded until we see the results. This is not debatable. Anything else is childish boasting about something that doesnt exist in this thing we call reality. Yup. If Douglas drafts 2 busts with his picks nobody is going to look back fondly on this trade except the handful of weirdos who are wrong 99% of the time about everything. If he drafts 2 pro bowlers then it will be looked at very positively. Only people beating their chests at this point are people that are absolutely obsessed with Jamal adams. People on this forum were beatng their chest about letting Anderson and go signing perriman. Or beating their chest about what a great draft Douglas had and try to tell you mims looked like the next megatron in a 20 catch rookie season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Wrong again, as usual. The trade cannot be graded until we see the results. This is not debatable. Anything else is childish boasting about something that doesnt exist in this thing we call reality. So, this year, if we trade the #2 overall pick for a 4th rounder, but the 4th rounder ends up being better than whoever is taken at #2, then trading the #2 for a 4th was a good trade? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: I stand by original take. Trading away pro bowlers you drafted defeats the purpose of actually hitting on our draft picks. As we always said, lets see who get with those picks. If its another Darron Lee or Dee Milliner guess you be the clown. PLANK, SON 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Guys, Seattle and their fans will totally feel better about the Adams trade if the Jets mess up the picks. It'll make everything right with their world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: 19 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: Yup. If Douglas drafts 2 busts with his picks nobody is going to look back fondly on this trade except the handful of weirdos who are wrong 99% of the time about everything It would have been a smart move even if Douglas released Adams because he’d still have avoided keeping a malcontent locker room pariah from holding up the organization for a massive contract despite immediately declining returns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Guys, Seattle and their fans will totally feel better about the Adams trade if the Jets mess up the picks. It'll make everything right with their world. How bad do you think Seattle wants a mulligan on that deal right now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I wish we still had Jamal Adams... . . . . . . . . so we could trade him for more draft picks 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: It would have been a smart move even if Douglas released Adams because he’d still have avoided keeping a malcontent locker room pariah from holding up the organization for a massive contract despite immediately declining returns. The team literally got worse and we had one of the worst seasons in jets franchise history. But sure. Whatever narrative you think of in your head sounds better because your own years long personal obsession with Jamal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Just now, kdels62 said: I wish we still had Jamal Adams... . . . . . . . . so we could trade him for more draft picks Step 1: Sign him on the cheap when he hits free agency and no one wants him. Step 2: Bring back Gregg Williams as DC for one season to boost his value. Step 3: Trade him again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Just now, Prodigal Syndicate said: The team literally got worse and we had one of the worst seasons in jets franchise history. But sure. Whatever narrative you think of in your head sounds better because your own years long personal obsession with Jamal. How did Seattle do, particularly on defense, in 2020? Continue doubling down, JamalBros. This is delicious. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: How did Seattle do, particularly on defense, in 2020? Continue doubling down, JamalBros. This is delicious. How did the jets do as a team post jamal? How did the defense look? Noticeably worse on both fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: The team literally got worse and we had one of the worst seasons in jets franchise history. But sure. Whatever narrative you think of in your head sounds better because your own years long personal obsession with Jamal. 3 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: How did the jets do as a team post jamal? How did the defense look? Noticeably worse on both fronts. THE JETS WERE 16-32 WITH JAMAL ADAMS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Just now, T0mShane said: THE JETS WERE 16-32 WITH JAMAL ADAMS We were 2-14 with bechton. We better trade him. That's the same dumb logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Just now, Prodigal Syndicate said: That's the same dumb logic. Pretty harsh because that is the logic you’re using to say that the loss of Jamal made the Jets worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Pretty harsh because that is the logic you’re using to say that the loss of Jamal made the Jets worse. But it did. Using the logic you've applied to Jamal for years, in the hundreds of threads about him you've made or posted in, we went from a 7 win team to a 2 win team. Wow, guess 1 player was worth 5 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Adams is the Jadeveon Clowney of safties....a few splash plays a game that makes Sportscenter and everyone thinks he's worth 20 mil a year....Clowney has been exposed and we are about a year away from Adams being exposed as well. The guy has zero impact on wins and loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: But it did. Using the logic you've applied to Jamal for years, in the hundreds of threads about him you've made or posted in, we went from a 7 win team to a 2 win team. Wow, guess 1 player was worth 5 wins. The logic I used with Jamal is that he does jack sh*t to help a team win football games, as Seattle just found out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 16 hours ago, David Harris said: We won 2 games but it’s nice to gloat anyway True. But also exactly as many we would have won with him on the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: @bitonti @More Cowbell @Pac @Defense Wins Championships @Dunnie @kevinc855 @NYJ1 @Larz @SAR I @Jetscode1 @Prodigal Syndicate @Mike135 @DLJ @BettyBoop @ScarletKnight89 @joewilly12 @Jet Nut @rangerous @jetstream23 @Thai Jet @GreenFish and? it was a good move. what i agree with is you don't get better by getting rid of good players. adams is a really good player. it seemed to me adams was being maligned more because of his draft position than his on field play. but then it was pretty clear he wanted out and the jets saw there was a good deal. end of story. right now i'm pretty confident that douglas will make some hay with those draft picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, rangerous said: and? it was a good move. what i agree with is you don't get better by getting rid of good players. adams is a really good player. it seemed to me adams was being maligned more because of his draft position than his on field play. but then it was pretty clear he wanted out and the jets saw there was a good deal. end of story. right now i'm pretty confident that douglas will make some hay with those draft picks. Jamal Adams sucks. #plank 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The logic I used with Jamal is that he does jack sh*t to help a team win football games, as Seattle just found out So I guess that means the same for every player currently on the jets team. Or any player on bad teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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