Rapoport: Carson Wentz next QB domino to drop. Colour me terrified.

[jago]

Being a Jets fan is like being a member of a doomsday cult wandering in the deserts of California . . . but at least there are bunkers and bomb shelters there! I guess. : /

even worse as its jersey and long island for these koolaid sippers

[Xtina]

3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

and Wentz has been a largely successful QB (outside of last year). If

Not on Planet Reality 

[Beerfish]

27 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

[Waka Flocka Flacco]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Seat of the pants action.

This is entrapment.

[RedBeardedSavage]

43 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said:

Jets will trade for Wentz and sign Dalton.  Darnold, Wentz, Dalton, Morgan.  Ginger nightmare.

Hey... Hey... you can't use that word. Only we can use that word. I feel micro-aggressed. Actually, I feel micro-aggro-crag'd. Is that a thing? GUTS!

[Icer]

Pretty strange they are moving off Wentz when it seemed like Doug P got fired/Sirianni got hired just to fix him

[joewilly12]

2 minutes ago, Jets4Life1979 said:

Report #49ers have talked to #Jets about the availability of QB Sam Darnold. He has a very good cap number for a QB for the team to focus on other areas. This will be a situation to watch will #SanFrancisco try to bring the #USC product back to the bay area?

49ers have the #12 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft send them Darnold and the #23 we wind up with #2 and #12 and possibly get their 2nd round pick #44. 

[flgreen]

4 minutes ago, Jets4Life1979 said:

Report #49ers have talked to #Jets about the availability of QB Sam Darnold. He has a very good cap number for a QB for the team to focus on other areas. This will be a situation to watch will #SanFrancisco try to bring the #USC product back to the bay area?

This would probably be the best thing for Sam.  If he goes belly up again in NY it is going to get real ugly for him.  

He's a Cali kid, send him home.

[Bronx]

Sam needs a back up.

[ZachEY]

7 minutes ago, Jets4Life1979 said:

Report #49ers have talked to #Jets about the availability of QB Sam Darnold. He has a very good cap number for a QB for the team to focus on other areas. This will be a situation to watch will #SanFrancisco try to bring the #USC product back to the bay area?

[Augustiniak]

9 minutes ago, Jets4Life1979 said:

Report #49ers have talked to #Jets about the availability of QB Sam Darnold. He has a very good cap number for a QB for the team to focus on other areas. This will be a situation to watch will #SanFrancisco try to bring the #USC product back to the bay area?

what's the source for this?

[Paradis]

3 hours ago, jamesr said:

I want no part of Wentz ... I'd far rather stick with the guy we know and work on his issues than pick up another guy and have o address his issues.

 

100000000000000000000000000000000%

Wentz is more busted then the media acknowledges. You're trading one set of known issues for a mystery bag of another's

[derp]

The Colts make a lot of sense. Cap space, need, and personnel connection. Pats meet criteria one and two. I expect it’s the Colts which is a bummer because they’d be a nice Darnold suitor. I think it’s basically those two or the Jets and the Jets would be confusing, especially timing wise because it’d hurt Darnold’s trade value and Wentz can’t be good for the locker room. I also still think the return for the Eagles will be low if anything. It’s a reclamation project/salary dump.

[UntouchableCrew]

I don't see this happening. If Douglas was going to gamble on a QB who cratered last year I think he'd do it with the guy we already have.

[BroadwayRay]

Trading a 23-year-old question mark for a 28-year-old question mark who hasn't been the same since he broke his back? Why would Douglas do that?

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

The wheels are in motion. One league source said their understanding is Philadelphia has already received aggressive offers. The Eagles are looking for significant compensation in return for the 2016 No. 2 overall pick to justify losing the talent and absorbing the more than $30 million dead cap hit they'll take by trading him.

[Untouchable]

20 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

what's the source for this?

 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

How many 1st round picks do we get for taking Wentz? If the Eagles gave us two 1st rounders, I'd be all for Wentz backing up the next starting QB. 

[CotcheryifyouCan]

i dont want wentz, but he is def better then darnold. sorry but sam is near the bottom of the list.  if he comes back ill root for him and hope he turns it around but there are not many starters worse then him at the moment

[dbatesman]

8 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

 

"back to the Bay Area"?

[Jetsfan80]

6 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

"back to the Bay Area"?

Californians are very liberal with what they define as the "Bay Area".

But this is a massive stretch.  Darnold grew up south of Los Angeles....

[BigRy56]

Wentz is a really hard guy to figure out... this year he was Mark Sanchez. But in the 3 years before that, he threw for a combined 81 TDs and 21 ints. Who is he really?

If Sam put up those numbers over a 3 year gap, he'd be the king of NY.

[Skeet Ulrich]

13 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

"back to the Bay Area"?

To note - Santa Clara is about 400ish miles from where Darnold grew up. It's like sending me from Brooklyn to somewhere in North Carolina.

[JTJet]

46 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

what's the source for this?

None. It's made up Twitter sh*t made with obvious assumptions to get you to click on it. 

[flgreen]

4 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Wentz is a really hard guy to figure out... this year he was Mark Sanchez. But in the 3 years before that, he threw for a combined 81 TDs and 21 ints. Who is he really?

If Sam put up those numbers over a 3 year gap, he'd be the king of NY.

This year he was sacked 50 times in 12 games.  For perspective, as bad as the Jets OL was , Darnold was only sacked 35 times in 12 games.

[JustInFudge]

4 hours ago, slats said:

It's not popular, but -imho- I don't expect Joe Douglas to enter and win a bidding war for Watson, and I think he's more likely to trade down from #2 than take a QB. I haven't changed my opinion on that since the Jets locked into the #2 pick: it's gonna come down to JD's evaluation of his top QB available vs. the best offer he gets for the pick. This is a guy who likes his draft picks and has done well in trades so far, I could see him blowing up Jimmy Johnson's draft pick trade chart with a move down. 

JD and Saleh have five years under contract here, and I'm not sure that fixing the QB position first is their #1 priority. So an inexpensive trade for Wentz, or bringing back Darnold and signing a 1A backup/potential starter like Jameis Winston could be an option for their first year together. Fill out the rest of the roster, establish the program, then bring in their guy at QB if no one they've tried so far is working out. 

But yeah, like I said, I know that's not popular. 

Kind of a concern if it's not, no?  I know everyone wants to talk about building the team and this that and the other but there is an old saying that has pretty much never failed....teams dont get better, they get better QB play.  Look around the league, you either have a QB and you're relevant, or you dont.

The flip side to this is; how much does bad QB hinder your ability to assess the roster?  I'd argue a ton because not only does it impact the offense and everyone in it but as we know, it puts a ton more pressure on the D too.

I just hate this idea of building around the worst QB in the NFL and/or thinking that you cant build a potent roster by paying a premium for QB, you absolutely can.  The Jets have 2nd most cap space and 6 picks in the top 100 and that's just this year.

As to Wentz, hell no.  lol.  He's a puke. 

[extmenace]

3 hours ago, Jetster said:

Weak mind? Come on man! The guy was getting the living sh*t kicked out of him & was sat for the backup, I'd call it his pride kicked. 

Say what you will but the year that Sam Darnold comes close to doing what Wentz was doing before his injury & when he had a good Oline in front of him come talk to me about comparing these 2 guys. 

You cant operate in the NFL behind a decimated line, you just can't! Defensive guys are too big, too fast, for 2nd & 3rd string NFL olineman to deal with. Especially 4 out of 5 of the starters. 

Sam had many games this year with time in the pocket, but he can never get to options without staring down the 1st & then leaving the pocket, running to his right, and running out of room trying to jam a pass into coverage or still sometimes running out of bounds behind the LOS, which I like to call pulling a Geno. 

I didn’t compare Sam to Wentz for starters. Second, Wentz looked absolutely awful this year. Sure, we can blame it on a number of issues but the eagles haven’t been healthy for a couple seasons...the problem with an aging roster. In 19’ he looked like a good qb. The main difference this year and last is his relationship with his former head coach and his trust in the franchise. I don’t know the guy personally obviously but from the sounds of it, the jalen hurts pick seemed to really effect his mind set. His decision making was awful which was why he was benched in the first place. It takes a combination of a lot of balls and playing really badly to get benched when you’re getting paid that kind of money. Really good qb’s can still look good with beat up o lines, Brady has done it. Peyton Manning did it, Russell Wilson and Watson have also been doing it. 

[TokyoJetsFan]

I can see Wentz in a Pats uniform

[FlightBoyz]

Wentz to Colts makes sense

[jetspenguin]

2 hours ago, Lith said:

Agreed.  I would rather go with a rookie or keep Sam for another year before I am giving up assets and taking on Wentz' contract.

Most of the options that have been discussed on this board are pretty good options and its just a matter of peronsal preference.  This one, not so much.  If he was a free agent, and we wanted to roll the dice on a "prove it" incentive laden contract, fine.  But giving up picks and assuming his contract. No.

[TMAC]

Perfect example of how Jet fan can make himself crazy.  No way does JD trade for Carson Wentz.  Why would you do that when you have the second pick in the draft and can get undamaged goods.  Perhaps Wentz can resurrect his career somewhere.  It won't be with the Jets.

[RichardTodd27]

5 hours ago, k-met57 said:

1. darnold is better then wentz

No way Darnold is anything close to Wentz.

In 2017, before Wentz tore his ACL, he was the leading MVP candidate.

Wentz was bad last year, but that had a lot to do with a makeshift O-line that lost 4 out of 5 starters and a below average WR core.

Wentz > Darnold. No should ever argue that.

[Warfish]

3 hours ago, More Cowbell said:

I have to ask. WTF is wrong with people on this forum. Hey, maybe Detroit wants  to trade Goff and his horrible contract.  Will we then have posts about taking him and offering a first round and Darnold for him? It's  like any QB some team wants to dump, Jet fans are like , ueah, I have to get me some of that. For Christmas sake, Wentz has been and injury prone QB that missed his chance to play in a SB. 

Welcome to the forum, you must be new here, and new to being a Jets fan. 

Welcome aboard!

What you are observing is the typical fan reaction to being one of, if not the, worst offensive teams in the NFL for the last 30 years. 

It is what happens when the quality of your QB play is so bad, on average, that you may well be considered the worst team in the NFL at the QB position over the past 30 years.

It is what happens when your franchises all time records for passing are at levels that are considered par for the course average annual production for most other NFL teams.

i.e. desperation is horrible thing.

[T0mShane]

 

[shawn306]

Wentz is a diva. Want no part of him