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Yeah it’s really weird how he couldn’t turn the bad players into good ones. 

Bowles was and is a GREAT Coach but he was a horrible HC because his assistants were a disgrace!!!!

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1 minute ago, Dunnie said:

Yes . Yes he did .. whe he took over playcalling duties for our D it was special.

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Our D was never special under todd bowles.

It stopped the run.  Got lit up in the passing game.

He coached a great game today and had a good year after early problems.

He sucked with the Jets

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2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

He never coached like that when he was with us.

 

Either did Pete Carroll but he went on to some success.

Failing at the Jets has never been looked at as a complete career killer.  You tend to get a bit of a pass.

Todd Bowles will likely get another HC shot, and I think he may be better the next time around.

 

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2 hours ago, Paradis said:

So Mahomes is human - folds under pressure like they all do....

Defense still seems to win championships.  This game reminded me a bit of the Giants win over the undefeated Patriots back in 2009.

And people here want to include Quinnen Williams in a package with a boatload of picks for a guy taken after Mahomes.  Pfft!

As my wife says, Gimme the D!

 

 

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25 minutes ago, carlito1171 said:

And The GM an even bigger disgrace 

You are right!!

Foe example, it has come out that MacCagnan NEVER consulted Bowles on draft picks or the overall  make up of the team!

What a Clown!

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https://nypost.com/2021/02/08/todd-bowles-not-brady-is-the-true-super-bowl-2021-mvp/

Tom Brady was awarded the hardware as the Most Valuable Player in Super Bowl LV on Sunday night in Tampa.

As he always does, Brady gets the accolades and the superstar-treatment hero worship.

But Brady — and anyone else who watched the Buccaneers’ dominant 31-9 win over the defending-champion Chiefs at Raymond James Stadium — knows who the true MVP of the game was.

It was Todd Bowles.

Yes, Jets fans, that Todd Bowles.

Of course, the players play the game. And the Buccaneers players were brilliant on defense all night, bottling up the Chiefs’ potent offense and throttling their otherworldly quarterback, Patrick Mahomes.

But it was the positions that Bowles, the Tampa Bay defensive coordinator and former Jets head coach of four seasons, put his players in that allowed them to do what they did to Mahomes, receiver Tyreek Hill and tight end Jason Kelce.

It was the plan Bowles implemented that put those players in position to deal Mahomes the worst loss of his professional career.

“Todd had a good plan,’’ Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. “He played zone first and second down and mixed it up on third down and we weren’t able to handle that too well. Give credit to Todd for the job he did. He got us.’’

Todd Bowles had a tremendous game plan against the Chiefs. Icon Sportswire via Getty Images

Bowles got the Buccaneers the Lombardi Trophy. And for that, he should have been the one who was handed the MVP trophy.

No disrespect to Brady, who completed 21 of 29 for a modest 201 yards and three TDs, but the quarterback almost always gets credit, the headlines, the hardware and the supermodel wife, doesn’t he?

How good was Bowles’ plan?

If you didn’t know any better, you’d have assumed he’d been sitting in on the Chiefs offensive meetings for the past two weeks, eating dinner at Mahomes’ house and discussing the Kansas City offensive game plan for Sunday.

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In the teams’ previous meeting, a 27-24 Kansas City win on Nov. 29, the Chiefs offense boat-raced Bowles’ Buccaneers’ defense. It was an embarrassing day for Tampa Bay. The Chiefs led 17-0 in the first quarter and 27-10 in the fourth quarter before the Bucs scored a couple of garbage-time TDs in the fourth quarter.

Mahomes completed 37 of 49 for 462 yards and three TDs that day. Hill, who finished that game with 13 catches for 269 yards and three TD receptions, had 203 of those receiving yards in the first quarter.

Mahomes finished Super Bowl LV 26 of 49 for 270 empty yards, two INTs and a passer rating of 49.9. In the first half, when the game was truly decided, Mahomes was 9 of 19 for 67 yards.

Hill, who finished the game with seven catches for the quietest, most irrelevant 73 yards you’ll ever see, had two catches for 13 yards in the first half.

“I can’t give him enough credit,’’ Buccaneers head coach Bruce Arians said of Bowles. “I think he got a little tired of hearing how unstoppable they were. I thought he came up with a fantastic plan — just to keep them in front of us and tackle real well. Patrick wasn’t going to beat us running. We’ll let him run all day.’’

Bowles said the “biggest thing was to try to take away the first read’’ from Mahomes.

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“You take away the first read, you know [Mahomes] is going to drift and hold [the ball],’’ he said. “We know that’s a dangerous thing, because he can make so much happen with his feet, but we didn’t want him sitting in the pocket just zinging dimes on us all day. So, the D-line got some pressure on him, making him run and a little bit uncomfortable. I thought that was key for us.’’

The Chiefs were uncharacteristically inept on third down, converting only 3 of 13.

“We mixed up some coverages, trying to show some disguises and make one thing look like another, and if we could make him hold [the ball] and pause and look at it for a little bit, those guys up front were allowed to hunt and they were getting him off the spot,’’ Bowles said.

Sunday’s win was an exclamation point to a Buccaneers postseason run on defense that shut down the Saints’ Drew Brees, the Packers’ Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes.

Brees and Rodgers will be headed to the Hall of Fame “on roller skates,’’ to borrow from the great Bill Parcells. And Mahomes will have to be kidnapped by aliens not to end up in Canton with them after his career is finished.

“They stepped up to the challenge,’’ Brady said of the defense. “When you go up against Patrick, an incredible player, and Aaron, the [NFL] MVP two weeks ago, and against Drew, they played great. They rose to the occasion.’’

Bowles rose to the occasion.

MVP.

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16 hours ago, TMAC said:

Todd Bowles called a brilliant game tonight and deserves a lot of credit.  Boomer called him co-MVP with Tom Brady.  I think he's a really decent person and I wish him well.  Just would never want him as a HC

I don’t think he called a brilliant game.  Barrett and JPP just happened to dominate two scrub OTs

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14 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

Defense still seems to win championships.  This game reminded me a bit of the Giants win over the undefeated Patriots back in 2009.

And people here want to include Quinnen Williams in a package with a boatload of picks for a guy taken after Mahomes.  Pfft!

As my wife says, Gimme the D!

 

 

Quinnen Williams and 7 first round picks for Watson

 

Make it happen JD!!!!!

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2 hours ago, Philc1 said:

I don’t think he called a brilliant game.  Barrett and JPP just happened to dominate two scrub OTs

It's been a long time since our defensive line dominated scrubs on the offensive line and controlled the game

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Bowles is a fantastic DC

He was a very poor HC, some of which was not his fault (terrible GM, terrible roster construction, poor QBs), and some of it was his own fault (bad game management, bad coaching staff, let player transgressions slide).

 

He’ll get another go and it’ll be interesting to see if he has learnt from the experience and does well. Good luck to him, seems a nice bloke.

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22 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

You are right!!

Foe example, it has come out that MacCagnan NEVER consulted Bowles on draft picks or the overall  make up of the team!

What a Clown!

I find this remarkable.  Has this been reported other than on this website

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47 minutes ago, batman10023 said:

I find this remarkable.  Has this been reported other than on this website

Heard it on a report after Mac was let go. 

It made me lessen my disdain for Bowels since then.  
 

Indeed here is an article after a quick search that says he did the same or similar things to Gase.  It doesn’t go into the detail i heard but is says enough to know that Mac was a boob!!
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/mike-maccagnan-didnt-want-jets-scouts-swayed-by-adam-gases-input/amp/

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2 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said:

Heard it on a report after Mac was let go. 

It made me lessen my disdain for Bowels since then.  

Wish I could find it.  Was so crazy. 
 

I like him and hope he get another head coaching job. 
 

for Mac his punishment should be to drink shop right brand coffee for the res of his life

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Lots of revisionist history with Bowles these days I see...he was a dumpster fire the first time around...terrible game management, no half time adjustments ever, and the team quit on him at the end of two seasons.  He's a good man and will get another shot but he wasn't a good HC.

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Bruce Arians has a bigger plan for his life.  

He will retire and hand the team to Bowles and Leftwich.  

Bowles needs to find a successor DC, other than Kacy.  

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as much as bowles deserves some credit for keeping mahomes in check it must be remembered that the chiefs were trying to block with 2 back up tackles, and they did a bad job.  tampa was able to give mahomes a whole lot of pressure with mostly a four man rush.  that left them with a numbers advantage in the secondary.  add to that a couple of linebackers that can cover (and a pretty favorable ref team) and it's no wonder why the chiefs couldn't get on track.  and just maybe this showed why bienienemy isn't a head coach.  looked like he had the clipboard during the game and was calling the offensive plays.  he didn't do a very good job.  he should've had his team ready to face a four man rush.

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11 hours ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

Yes. He was lights out throwing for 201 yards with all the time in the world while the entire team dominated on both sides of the ball.  But sure - let's give all the credit to Brady.  

Brady doesn’t play for the Cheatriots anymore relax 

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On 2/9/2021 at 7:39 AM, undertow said:

Lots of revisionist history with Bowles these days I see...he was a dumpster fire the first time around...terrible game management, no half time adjustments ever, and the team quit on him at the end of two seasons.  He's a good man and will get another shot but he wasn't a good HC.

Bowles was horrible here.  Only overshadowed by Gase who was both horrible and toxic as hell

 

The only rational defense of Bowles with the Jets is all of the QBs he had here were God-awful

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